DC Candidates?

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#602
I mean we could always bring back Chavis. I'm sure he'd like to have more than 1 National Championship to his name. I know people get mad about his irritating prevent defenses, but LSU has been a title contender for several years with a ****ty offense. Someone's gotta be responsible for that.
 
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alexbond45 said:
I mean we could always bring back Chavis. I'm sure he'd like to have more than 1 National Championship to his name. I know people get mad about his irritating prevent defenses, but LSU has been a title contender for several years with a ****ty offense. Someone's gotta be responsible for that.
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VolFreakJosh said:
I would be ok with Lovie Smith. I think it would be a good hire but not a great hire. If Butch's goal is to win championships, then I would rather have someone like Shoop whose proven to have elite defenses the likes of Penn St. & Vandy. Either way, I'll trust Butch with whoever he hires.
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See, that's interesting...been trying to wrap my head around the "elite" part.

2015 Season

SCORING DEFENSE

UT Tied at #16 with Clemson
PSU #26

RUSH DEFENSE

PSU #43
UT #45

PASS DEFENSE

PSU #8
UT #47

TOTAL DEFENSE

PSU #14
UT #36

I'm not saying the guy might not be better than Jancek, but he's not the guy from BC who just got hired at Michigan, or the guy who just got hired by LSU from Wisconsin (I think)...

Obviously, Shoop can get good results with lesser players, but under the circumstances I think Jancek was in the same boat this particular season and certainly last season as well.

They were 4-4 in the B10 with losses to OSU 38-10, Northwestern 23-21, Michigan 28-16, and Michigan State 55-16...the same MSU that Bama shut out 38-0.
 
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Ed Orgeron would bring:

1. a clean reputation to the Big Orange
2. energy on that side of the ball
3. another great recruiter to the staff
4. and pound Azzani into the ground during the staff flag football match.

He knows what it takes to play SEC championship defense and if I were him I would be looking to upgrade from a position coach and get out of Baton Rouge.

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#606
Lovie let go tonight... he's headed back to Morristown to circle... and wait on Butch to bring him in.... soon.
 
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vol66 said:
See, that's interesting...been trying to wrap my head around the "elite" part.

2015 Season

SCORING DEFENSE

UT Tied at #16 with Clemson
PSU #26

RUSH DEFENSE

PSU #43
UT #45

PASS DEFENSE

PSU #8
UT #47

TOTAL DEFENSE

PSU #14
UT #36

I'm not saying the guy might not be better than Jancek, but he's not the guy from BC who just got hired at Michigan, or the guy who just got hired by LSU from Wisconsin (I think)...

Obviously, Shoop can get good results with lesser players, but under the circumstances I think Jancek was in the same boat this particular season and certainly last season as well.
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Somebody posted Shoops avg def rankings going back to Vandy and he was top 25 min. As perspective Mason's first year they dropped into the 60's and Mason's a defensive guy. Add in the guy is a lockdown for recruiting the midstate which we have faltered a tad at this year. He'd be good.
 
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A quick google search of Gene Chizik shows he was hired by the University of Tennessee January, 2016?? Anyone know anything about this??
 
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#610
With this being a state university and all, how does the FOIA work in this case?
Doesn't it have to be posted for a week before actually hiring someone?
 
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DD4ME said:
Somebody posted Shoops avg def rankings going back to Vandy and he was top 25 min. As perspective Mason's first year they dropped into the 60's and Mason's a defensive guy. Add in the guy is a lockdown for recruiting the midstate which we have faltered a tad at this year. He'd be good.
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I'm not calling BS or anything, I'm just not sure Shoop is that much better than Jancek and top 25 is not elite to me, but it's not like I know jack about it.
 
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Vols_14 said:
A quick google search of Gene Chizik shows he was hired by the University of Tennessee January, 2016?? Anyone know anything about this??
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No a quick Google search sent you to a Wikipedia page where any moron can add info into the bio of anybody... Next thing you know someone will add Chewbacca as the DC and Darth Vader as OC...
 
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vol66 said:
I'm not calling BS or anything, I'm just not sure Shoop is that much better than Jancek and top 25 is not elite to me, but it's not like a know jack about it.
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All I know is Butch has proved me wrong a bunch and he just iced his buddy heading into the most promising year of his entire career. Last coordinator hire of Butch's I questioned lead us to our best rushing stats since the 50's when passing was a novelty. I won't question this one.
 
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Well it's official Wiki don't lie :)
Eugene T. "Gene" Chizik[1] (born December 28, 1961) is an American football coach and former player. He was named defensive coordinator for The University of Tennessee in January 2016. He was the head coach of the Auburn football team from 2009 until the end of the 2012 season.[2] Chizik's 2010 Auburn Tigers football team completed a 14–0 season with a victory over Oregon in the BCS National Championship Game. Chizik played college football at the University of Florida in 1981 for head coach Charley Pell.[3]
 
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triad280 said:
No a quick Google search sent you to a Wikipedia page where any moron can add info into the bio of anybody... Next thing you know someone will add Chewbacca as the DC and Darth Vader as OC...
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Not-aah.
 
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DD4ME said:
All I know is Butch has proved me wrong a bunch and he just iced his buddy heading into the most promosing year of his entire career. Last coordinator hire of Butch's I questioned lead us to our best rushing stats since the 50's when passing was a novelty. I won't question this one.
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You get a like for an actual level headed response... People doubted the hire when he became HC. Everyone loves him now. They doubted he could recruit. They doubted he could make the hard choice to let a man loose, he was too loyal... Everyone has been wrong so far, I won't doubt him and who he decides to hire...
 
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DD4ME said:
All I know is Butch has proved me wrong a bunch and he just iced his buddy heading into the most promising year of his entire career. Last coordinator hire of Butch's I questioned lead us to our best rushing stats since the 50's when passing was a novelty. I won't question this one.
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It's funny. I thought the Debord hire made sense on a lot of levels, but I understand where you are coming from.

I think this change might have less to do with football and more to do with a couple of guys that have spent too much time together and personalities clashing.

I'm with you though. It's his program, he knows better than I do that's for sure.

GBO!!!
 
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Just saw a video posted 8 hours ago of Shoop saying he has no plans to leave PSU. Not sure if this is our guy or not
 
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triad280 said:
You get a like for an actual level headed response... People doubted the hire when he became HC. Everyone loves him now. They doubted he could recruit. They doubted he could make the hard choice to let a man loose, he was too loyal... Everyone has been wrong so far, I won't doubt him and who he decides to hire...
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He really has been what we needed even when we wanted something else.
 
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crucdvol said:
Ed Orgeron would bring:

1. a clean reputation to the Big Orange
2. energy on that side of the ball
3. another great recruiter to the staff
4. and pound Azzani into the ground during the staff flag football match.

He knows what it takes to play SEC championship defense and if I were him I would be looking to upgrade from a position coach and get out of Baton Rouge.

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Can we delve into the "clean reputation" thing a bit more?
 
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vol66 said:
It's funny. I thought the Debord hire made sense on a lot of levels, but I understand where you are coming from.

I think this change might have less to do with football and more to do with a couple of guys that have spent too much time together and personalities clashing.

I'm with you though. It's his program, he knows better than I do that's for sure.

GBO!!!
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We agree. All I mean is Debord was by no means flashy or a recruiting juggernaut but he gave Butch what he needed. I am with you bouncing Jancek is a huge risk and a much "flashier" move which is not what I expect from Butch. He seems to know what he wants and needs though. We shall see.
 
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DD4ME said:
We agree. All I mean is Debord was by no means flashy or a recruiting juggernaut but he gave Butch what he needed. I am with you bouncing Jancek is a huge risk and a much "flashier" move which is not what I expect from Butch. He seems to know what he wants and needs though. We shall see.
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Yep.
 
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