Dave Hart's contract coming to a close

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Hart was not a good hire. Someone point out to me all the great successes any of our athletics have had since he has been here? And saying he is better than Hamilton is not an endorsement for a contract extension. It's like saying a horse is better than a mule, well maybe so but we need a thoroughbred!
 
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Personally I think his contract should be renewed with a shorter leash. I don't care about the ladies name change, I care about results. I think Hart deserves a C which should buy him a couple of years. I would never had renewed one of my manager's with that record but times they are a changing in college sports.PS our athletic dept. is now in the black and facilities are next to none. He will be renewed just for shorter term.
 
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Hart was not a good hire. Someone point out to me all the great successes any of our athletics have had since he has been here? And saying he is better than Hamilton is not an endorsement for a contract extension. It's like saying a horse is better than a mule, well maybe so but we need a thoroughbred!

pt 1) he's not Mike Hamilton.

Thank you.
 
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Hart was not a good hire. Someone point out to me all the great successes any of our athletics have had since he has been here? And saying he is better than Hamilton is not an endorsement for a contract extension. It's like saying a horse is better than a mule, well maybe so but we need a thoroughbred!
1. Got rid of Dooley
2. Hired Butch Jones
3. Hired Rick Barnes

There's 3 for you.
 
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I think it's time to replace Hart AND Cheek with somebody with TN connections. They don't have to be graduates or natives but some connection. For instance (and this is NOT a suggestion just an example), Spurrier. Blackburn is an outstanding example. There are many others that could fill either chair. The key is not to wait 10 months. Find a replacement now and prepare for the transition at the end of the contract(s).

Yeah I am tired of outsiders, particularly ones from rivals such as Alabama and Florida. I want people that while qualified of course also care about school.
 
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Again, how is the University (not athletics) in worse shape today than when he started?

Facilities and programs seem to be on the rise. Enrollment is solid. Where's the problem?

Is this real life?

First, Cheek. He's at least put forward a vision. However, he's been totally ineffective at realizing that vision. Saying that "enrolment is solid" for the major state university is actually saying, "he's treading water". We're not advancing his flagship programs. Moreover, Cheek has failed to realize the Alabama example - the success of the one global brand for the University of Tennessee has a positive influence on finances and enrolment.

In 2011 we had Hambone and Stooley. There was nowhere to go but up. The fact that Hart hasn't distanced himself from those oh so humble beginnings is testament to his ineffectiveness. It's pretty damn easy to get the books back in order with new SEC Network revenue. If he had a true vision, we would have Gruden coaching football and Bruce Pearl back. Why not??? We've hired two guys with NCAA problems since!

Basically, Hart can't even hang his hat on Butch. We learned that Butch was still on Saturday OJT this year. I want to believe Butch has turned the corner (and I really, really, really hope he has), but it has to wait now until 2016. Which again, another indictment against Hart.
 
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Dave hart has come in with a huge mess and money issues to clean up and has done a great job. Anyone saying otherwise does not really pay attention...fire away.
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AD Hart should only be on a 2 to 3 year contract and be performance based just like coaches should be.

I'm curious though...Since Fulmer really isn't qualified to be the AD what people would VN nominate to replace Hart if the powers that be decide to let him walk?

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!

Tom Jurich from Louisville. Has done wonders for the program but the ship is sinking!
 
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Why do some insist that the only good hire have UT ties?

You gotta continually cycle in new blood to keep an organization fresh. Gotta continually reexamine the way things are done.

Does anyone honestly think the AD is in worse shape today than it was in 2011?

If you reread the post that you are challenging (or have it read to you) you will see that I suggest Tennessee ties. That includes UT but does not require it.

The Athletic Department is better than it was in 2011. It's not a solid endorsement that you are better than a friggin' dumpster fire. There are lots of issues that have been mishandled (basketball, women's sports, baseball, etc) and the success of football remains undetermined.
 
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Blackburn has done a good job at UTC but sometimes seems really stressed. I am not sure what the UT job would do to him. Rick Hart did a good job at UTC and is now at SMU.
 
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Dave hart has come in with a huge mess and money issues to clean up and has done a great job. Anyone saying otherwise does not really pay attention...fire away.
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The reason people don't understand what's happened is that they don't have the intellectual ability to grasp the concept of reality.
 
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Blackburn has done a good job at UTC but sometimes seems really stressed. I am not sure what the UT job would do to him. Rick Hart did a good job at UTC and is now at SMU.

My only beef with the guy is that he complimented that Cuonzo article the other day. Every real Tennessean should be disgusted at that
 
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Why has Hart done a good job?

Because he isn't as incompetent as Hambone?

Hart needs to be gone in 10-months. He has barely tread water. We should be lining up a solid AD hire if we had any sense.

And throw in new UT President while we're at it.

New president, what?

The chancellor is a moron, and mostly for reasons well beyond football, but now you're just throwing crap at a wall.
 
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Surely I do...with a substantial raise. He's done a good job.

Agreed. Only "egregious" thing he's done is not properly vet Tyndall...that was embarrassing but he more than atoned for it by going and getting Barnes.
 
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Agreed. Only "egregious" thing he's done is not properly vet Tyndall...that was embarrassing but he more than atoned for it by going and getting Barnes.

Agree. But even with Tyndall, he had the clause in his contract that allowed us to get rid of him if sanctions were brought from a previous school. Also, they vetted him well enough to appease the NCAA that any wrongdoing was unknown to us and the penalties wouldn't affect us. So, he was a black-eye and a year wasted. But nothing severe.
 
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Dave hart has come in with a huge mess and money issues to clean up and has done a great job. Anyone saying otherwise does not really pay attention...fire away.
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I agree with that part. On the other hand, he does need to do a better job with the old money, but overall, I don't think he's been bad.
 
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Tom Jurich from Louisville. Has done wonders for the program but the ship is sinking!

Absolutely not. The last thing we need in the AD is the stench coming off this douche bag in Louisville from the prostitute scandal and Yum Center financing deal which is going to hit the fan sooner or later.
 
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Why has Hart done a good job?

Because he isn't as incompetent as Hambone?

Hart needs to be gone in 10-months. He has barely tread water. We should be lining up a solid AD hire if we had any sense.

And throw in new UT President while we're at it.

I disagree with you. About Hart...Go ahead and fire Dipietro if that'll satisfy your blood lust (tho I'd fire Cheek instead :))
 
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Isn't it interesting how everyone always hates leadership? 100% guarantee that if Hart isn't renewed, VN will come to hate whoever we hire.
 
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Hart was not a good hire. Someone point out to me all the great successes any of our athletics have had since he has been here? And saying he is better than Hamilton is not an endorsement for a contract extension. It's like saying a horse is better than a mule, well maybe so but we need a thoroughbred!




Tennessee opened a television studio to coincide with the launching of the SEC Network and also dedicated a new volleyball center last fall. Other projects under way or in the works include expansion of the football practice fields, construction of a dormitory, improvements to the track, renovations of the basketball locker rooms and additions to the tennis facilities and boathouse.


Tennessee took a few steps forward last year, though much of the improvement came off the field.

The football program ended a string of four straight losing seasons. Student-athletes posted a 3.04 grade- point average in the spring semester, their second-highest result since Tennessee began keeping track of this data in 2003. Tennessee raised a record $48.4 million in athletic donations during the 2014-15 fiscal year.

UT released details of its financial status for the fiscal year that ended June 30, reporting operating revenues of $121,837,383 over total operating expenditures & transfers of $108,735,063 for a net operating surplus of $13,102,320 before capital transfers and designations.

Edit: a huge part of any AD's job and evaluation is his hirings....Jones, Warlick, Barnes, 3 very good hires, no? The Serrano hire was also universally lauded as an excellent hire, despite his inability to recognize a lot of success to date.
 
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