Dave Hart and retired Bama OL Coach Joe Pendry

[AISTROP]

and don't do windows neither (speculation)

link?

 

[FittyElevem]

If your fantasy doesn't involve a woman............

 

[Chilmonty]

It can be, what's yours little boy? HO...HO...HO!!!

HAHA! Love that movie! Pendry will shoot your eye out kid!

 

[PrattvilleVol]

Since we are going in to fantasy land tonight, I will create a fantasy that has some parts of the truth in it. My fantasy will beat your fantasy.
The defensive co ordinator of the Packers was the a defensive coach for U.T. in the 1990's. He later became the D.C. of the Steeler's, then the first head coach of the Carolina Panthers, then the first head coach of the Texans.
I personally heard from Chad Clifton & Scott Wells, that Dom Caper's told them that he prefers the college game and not the grind of the N.F.L. He went on to tell Clifton & Wells that he wanted to leave after this season, if/when the Packers won their next Superbowl.
According to Capers, Dooley has already decided to fire Wilcox, after this season ends.
This will clear the way for Capers to be our D.C.
Dave Hart is in agreement with this plan because Dooley was not hired by Hart and the truth be known, Hart would like for Dooley to be gone. Once Hart gets a chance, he will fire Dooley and Caper's will already be on campus to take Dooley's place.
The players will already know Caper's. Caper's has N.F.L. ties as a D.C. and a Head Coach of two different franchises. This will help alot in recruiting.
There you go! You will find some pieces of the truth in this fantasy, but a great deal of it has no element of the truth in it.
My goal was to create a bigger fantasy story than the one on this thread and I think that I reached my goal.

Two to three sentences is enough in a blog. We come here to relax, chat and these days lament (not prepare for a soph lit class). You have exceeded both the attention span and patience of most VN posters

 

[therealitytheory]

Fact.. he was Saban's OL coach
Fact.. he retired from coaching
speculation... he may not be wild about retirement

Got all that just from the post... ..............
reading is FUN DA MENTAL

Coastypop is correct. The facts about Pendry are true. The speculation involves whether he would come out of retirement. He's only 63, and he's got a hell of a resume.

If there is an opening here at the OL coaching position at year end, common sense and strong connections indicate the man will at least be considered. But again, it is purely speculative at this point as to whether there'll be an opening.

 

[coors40light]

Joe Pendry was Saban's only OL coach at Alabama until his retirement last January. Pendry's lines were especially dominant in '08 and '09 - lending heavily to the '09 National Championship and Ingram's Heisman - and 5 of his players went on to the NFL. By nearly all accounts bama fans were fond of Pendry and hated to see him hang it up at age 63.

Dave Hart and Pendry are friends, and it may be a possibility that Pendry isn't all that wild about retirement.

Cool....i wonder if he can coach/teach Dooley and Chaney's blocking scheme just like Hiestand does?

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Yeah Pendry is comming here to fix O-line. Plus he is bringing Kirby Smart (who i wish they would make a big offer to) with him to make the Defense even better. Attack not sit back.

Don't need Kirby Smart. We have the DC we need.

 

[therealitytheory]

Fantasy thread #2. According to Charles Davis, when Joe Pa resigns after this season's bowl game, Joe Pa will become our coach in waiting. Once Dooley is fired, whenever that may be, Joe Pa will already be here.
Joe Pa said the reason he chose U.T., was because he has always known that U.T. has better teams than Penn State but he was always able to out coach Majors and Fulmer to ultimately get the win. (reference Penn State vs. U.T. 1992, 1994, & 2007) Joe Pa said he would come to U.T. out of sympathy, because he felt sorry for us for giving him all of the bowl games that we gave him.

What's the matter? Didn't get the black helmets that were promised to you?

Our OL problems are all too real with regards to our miserable run game. Nearly everybody across the line has almost two full years of Hiestand's tutelage under their belt. So it's hardly fantasy to examine possibilities beyond what is currently in place. Grow tf up.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yep, he retired from the powerhouse Bama program just to walk into our dumpster fire.

I also heard the head guy at Toyota quit his job and applied at General Motors, the owner of the Olive Garden is seeking a straight-up trade for Jack-in-the-Box and the Prince of Saudi Arabia is asking Obama to let him cure the US economy...

 

[DazzleVol]

I dont think there will be any staff shakeups .. IMO, the OL woes is mainly on scheme, its the "sprint-draw" type blocking they use vs drive blocking that we are used to seeing.. this scheme is what chaney and dooley are asking cHH to teach and use..

another reason i dont foresee any staff shakeups is Dooley and Co. get year 3 to try and earn number 4, if not then they are all gone, no need to bring in a OL coach for one year if everyone is gonna be gone the next.

 

[volzndahood]

Coastypop is correct. The facts about Pendry are true. The speculation involves whether he would come out of retirement. He's only 63, and he's got a hell of a resume.

If there is an opening here at the OL coaching position at year end, common sense and strong connections indicate the man will at least be considered. But again, it is purely speculative at this point as to whether there'll be an opening.

Does he have any land in Tennessee and/or did his wife go to UT?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Coastypop is correct. The facts about Pendry are true. The speculation involves whether he would come out of retirement. He's only 63, and he's got a hell of a resume.

If there is an opening here at the OL coaching position at year end, common sense and strong connections indicate the man will at least be considered. But again, it is purely speculative at this point as to whether there'll be an opening.

I guess my question would be, "Was the reitirement a forced-retirement from Bama?" I mean, it is a bit rediculous to think that he would retire from Bama just to jump on a job offer at UT.

This seems like a fairly rediculous proposition.

 

[therealitytheory]

Yep, he retired from the powerhouse Bama program just to walk into our dumpster fire.

Pendry's had more than a few stops in his career, NFL as well as college. IF he wants to get back in the game at age 64, it's doubtful that he'd expect to be handed the '62 Packers OL.

We're dead last in the SEC at rushing the football (and there's a wide gap between us and 11th place). We couldn't generate much of a ground game against one of the worst rushing defenses in Division 1...with a unit that has had almost 2 full seasons together, and has been remarkably injury-free.

Dooley and Hart will sit down at season's end and evaluate all of the position coaches. Unless things improve dramatically rushing-wise, it's a realistic possibility that a change could be made.

In that potential scenerio of a job opening...there's a bond between our new AD and someone who could reasonably be considered a candidate. It is what it is - even if nothing comes from it.

 

[DazzleVol]

the problem with trying to hire a new OL into this situation is still the fact that next year might be the whole staffs last year, and might turn off any potential coach ..

 

[Orange_Crush]

Pendry's had more than a few stops in his career, NFL as well as college. IF he wants to get back in the game at age 64, it's doubtful that he'd expect to be handed the '62 Packers OL.

My question was pertaining to this "if". Why in God's name would he retire from Alabama, a dominant and successful college program with strong recruiting base, hunts for championships, a staff he is comfortable with and knows, just to turn around and say-- "Well, I got that out of my system. I guess it's time to go nosing around UT. I mean, it's got hart and all..."?

The whole theory is rediculous. Why would he quit the college equivelant of the "Packer OL"? Is he that spontaneous and gives retirment that little thought?

We're dead last in the SEC at rushing the football (and there's a wide gap between us and 11th place). We couldn't generate much of a ground game against one of the worst rushing defenses in Division 1...with a unit that has had almost 2 full seasons together, and has been remarkably injury-free.

You're really not making a great argument for us to be "the one" to pull him back out of retirement considering what he left behind. If he still wanted to coach, do you think he would have left Bama? If he is tired enough of coaching to leave Bama, what in your above paragraph is the draw over the gig he had?

Dooley and Hart will sit down at season's end and evaluate all of the position coaches. Unless things improve dramatically rushing-wise, it's a realistic possibility that a change could be made.

We will see. It's a bit premature to be talking about replacing a coach that's still on staff, who is reported by those in the know (former player) as a great position coach, and who's working his tail off right now.

In that potential scenerio of a job opening...there's a bond between our new AD and someone who could reasonably be considered a candidate. It is what it is - even if nothing comes from it.

I guess our definitions of 'reasonable' differ. A person who has acted on the fact that they are done with coaching, proven by leaving their position at possible the pinnacle college in the NCAA, can't really 'reasonably' be considered a candidate.

 

[franchuck]

Since we are going in to fantasy land tonight, I will create a fantasy that has some parts of the truth in it. My fantasy will beat your fantasy.
The defensive co ordinator of the Packers was the a defensive coach for U.T. in the 1990's. He later became the D.C. of the Steeler's, then the first head coach of the Carolina Panthers, then the first head coach of the Texans.
I personally heard from Chad Clifton & Scott Wells, that Dom Caper's told them that he prefers the college game and not the grind of the N.F.L. He went on to tell Clifton & Wells that he wanted to leave after this season, if/when the Packers won their next Superbowl.
According to Capers, Dooley has already decided to fire Wilcox, after this season ends.
This will clear the way for Capers to be our D.C.
Dave Hart is in agreement with this plan because Dooley was not hired by Hart and the truth be known, Hart would like for Dooley to be gone. Once Hart gets a chance, he will fire Dooley and Caper's will already be on campus to take Dooley's place.
The players will already know Caper's. Caper's has N.F.L. ties as a D.C. and a Head Coach of two different franchises. This will help alot in recruiting.
There you go! You will find some pieces of the truth in this fantasy, but a great deal of it has no element of the truth in it.
My goal was to create a bigger fantasy story than the one on this thread and I think that I reached my goal.
Fans: We have reached LA-La land!

 

[zgatorhater100]

Facts or speculation?

I feel Chaney is not the problem with offense, offensive line coaching seems to be a problem. For all of us that have played some football in the past if is very strange: it was always a lot easier to learn to run block than to pass block, picking up blitzes, etc.
FYI...There will be an extremely good defensive coordinator available this winter by the name of Stoops when Arizona lets their head coach go. It seems all the Stoop's brothers know defense as well or better than a lot of others....I assure you he will not be without a job long when he is let go.

 

[Volgrad98]

I feel Chaney is not the problem with offense, offensive line coaching seems to be a problem. For all of us that have played some football in the past if is very strange: it was always a lot easier to learn to run block than to pass block, picking up blitzes, etc.
FYI...There will be an extremely good defensive coordinator available this winter by the name of Stoops when Arizona lets their head coach go. It seems all the Stoop's brothers know defense as well or better than a lot of others....I assure you he will not be without a job long when he is let go.

Welcome to the board and I believe Stoops has already been let go.

 

[LaagerVol]

I guess my question would be, "Was the reitirement a forced-retirement from Bama?" I mean, it is a bit rediculous to think that he would retire from Bama just to jump on a job offer at UT.

This seems like a fairly rediculous proposition.

*Redikewlus

Doesn't this forum have built-in spell check for everyone or is it just me?

Anyway, it may seem ridiculous, and I'm not saying it's anything more than speculation, but there are MANY reasons for someone to retire from a job, even if it seems like everything is perfect on the outside.

 

[Orange_Crush]

*Redikewlus

Doesn't this forum have built-in spell check for everyone or is it just me?

Anyway, it may seem ridiculous, and I'm not saying it's anything more than speculation, but there are MANY reasons for someone to retire from a job, even if it seems like everything is perfect on the outside.

Must be just you. I'm proud for you. Kudos! (Feel better now?)

Yep. Dig around and find me one that says that he retired from stability to go to a dumpster fire, and then it becomes a reasonable conversation to have.

Well... Not quite, actually... Show me an open OL coaching position at UT, dig around and find me a valid reason that he retired from stability just to come to UT's dumpster fire, and then it becomes a resonable conversation.

Note: I misspelled "reasonable" above just to give you a reason to feel better about yourself. Hope it helps.

 

[therealitytheory]

Lighten up Francis. It doesn't have to be Pendry. At this particular time, with our freaking run game ranked 111th in the country, I'd take Mike Barry back.

Hell - I'd almost take Jimmy Ray Stephens back.

But oh no... I'm being premature, because the target of my ire is still on staff. Stil "working his butt off" - as you feel compelled to say...curiously.

 

[feathersax]

First, it'd be great if he ended up at UT...but I'm 63 & looking toward retirement, too. Hang your hat on another guy, fellas...he ain't goin' back to the rat-race.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Lighten up Francis. It doesn't have to be Pendry. At this particular time, with our freaking run game ranked 111th in the country, I'd take Mike Barry back.

Hell - I'd almost take Jimmy Ray Stephens back.

But oh no... I'm being premature, because the target of my ire is still on staff. Stil "working his butt off" - as you feel compelled to say...curiously.

Yes. Yes, you are being premature.

I would be willing to bet that you haven't the football IQ to pinpoint the specific problems in the running game. The fact that you think it is a single problem that can be cured by firing the OL coach pretty much dictates the argument that you haven't the football IQ to pinpoint the combination of circumstances that are causing the problems in the running game.

It's not curious at all that I feel compelled to say that he is working his butt off. An interesting note is that you didn't also feel 'compelled' to mention my reference that people with the football IQ to understand our OL problems say that he is an excellent coach and needs the time to iron the problems out.

So, yes. Yes, you are most definitely premature. Our dumpster fire has been set and fed by going through coaching carousels. This program needs stability and maturity. It will only be set back further by panicking, ignoring the white elephants in the room, and going off half-cocked to do more damage.

Ignorant ya-hoos with this, "By God, I'm just tired of losing! I'm just tired of the excuses!" mentality need to sit down, shut up, realize the reasons behind the losses, and let the coaches do their job.

"Heck, I'd take anyone..."

Listen to yourself...

 

[therealitytheory]

Yes. Yes, you are being premature.

I would be willing to bet that you haven't the football IQ to pinpoint the specific problems in the running game. The fact that you think it is a single problem that can be cured by firing the OL coach pretty much dictates the argument that you haven't the football IQ to pinpoint the combination of circumstances that are causing the problems in the running game.

It's not curious at all that I feel compelled to say that he is working his butt off. An interesting note is that you didn't also feel 'compelled' to mention my reference that people with the football IQ to understand our OL problems say that he is an excellent coach and needs the time to iron the problems out.

So, yes. Yes, you are most definitely premature. Our dumpster fire has been set and fed by going through coaching carousels. This program needs stability and maturity. It will only be set back further by panicking, ignoring the white elephants in the room, and going off half-cocked to do more damage.

Ignorant ya-hoos with this, "By God, I'm just tired of losing! I'm just tired of the excuses!" mentality need to sit down, shut up, realize the reasons behind the losses, and let the coaches do their job.

"Heck, I'd take anyone..."

Listen to yourself...

Great. Another joker who has talked to an ex-someone who's in the know.

Why don't you point him this way. He can take your place while you go try "dumpster fire" ad naseum out on somebody else.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Great. Another joker who has talked to an ex-someone who's in the know.

Why don't you point him this way. He can take your place while you go try "dumpster fire" ad naseum out on somebody else.

Pay a little more attention around here sunshine. The former OL Vol, NFL player posted on here about him.

Edit: http://www.volnation.com/forum/5646855-post130.html Former UT player, current NFL OL defends our OL coach and explains our schemes, lack of OL success, etc... Interesting read.
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