DaRick, Depth, and Bama

[82_VOL_83]

I hope you all are really getting the underlined story here! If Fade can post something most VN agree's with the by gosh Da'Rick can mature and become the leade we need him to be!!!!!

Seriously though I completely agree as well :hi:

+1.....I would give you a like but I am all out at the moment.

 

[e-VOL-ution2013]

When an immature WR like Da'Rick that has had trouble throughout his life everywhere he has been walks into the situation at UT, I agree completely with you. However, I think it's unfair to mention the players you did in your post because I do not think it's a "major reason" for most players. Some players get it and some just do not. Da'Rick has a chance at millions and doesn't care. Julio had his shot, worked his butt off, and is making the millions. Who was playing behind him didn't matter to Julio as he had a goal that he wanted to attain.

I agree that it isn't the only reason they behaved however Fade never said this was the only reason just an contributing one. And the point being with that was say for instance TR was invited to go party it up one weekend, now millions or not he is a young man and that would be temtping no matter who you are. The difference in a yes or no could be the fact that there is a Lacey right there to remind TR if he screws up the team won't be out a RB, and he will have hurt his own chances at the millions in the process. Whereas with no Lacey there he may think the team has to have him so if he messes up this once time he can get by with it. I think that is the point to Fade's comment.

 

[e-VOL-ution2013]

+1.....I would give you a like but I am all out at the moment.

Thanks man! :hi:

 

[tvols75]

Geez Louise gang, take the post for what it was and quit trying to read the fine print (there is none). For once I think Fade is dead on. Just because he mentioned players that may all be good just because they were gonna be good no matter where they were, the point is that:
1. If you are immature
2. If you have had no discipline in your life
3. You are the BMOC by not having competition, then

you are going to BE the BMOC. You are going to think your poop don't stink and that every fart smells like roses. You won't understand when more rational, grounded, and mature individuals be they your elders or your peers think you are acting like a jerk. Fade, maybe you put too much thought and common sense in your post for some to handle??

And I completely agree with what you just said. However, a position spot is not a major reason said players acted like they were older than 15. They saw a future, had a goal, and worked their ass off. To say it's a major reason is ridiculous. And if Julio or Richardson went out and committed a misdemeanor, they would've still been playing. You discredit kids that do it the right way when you say a major reason they are doing it the right way is because there's a player behind them. Your summary is 100% correct. I, however, do not feel that the OP saying a major reason those kids acting right was because they had a good player behind them.

 

[peyton4heisman]

Fade, for once, I must admit that your OP actually barely just crossed the border into the territory of what is "logical." This, like your successful attempts to effectively muster a coherent argument, will be an EXTREMELY rare occurrence. Enjoy.

 

[SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U]

This has nothing to do with Da'rick taking advantage of our depth but Da'rick just being immature.....Dooley is in a tough spot. Da'rick is like the hot girlfriend who you can't trust because she might cheat on you, but you stay with her and give her chances because she is so hot...

 

[99gator]

Original post is dead on.

Rex grossman was unable to be kept in check when brock berlin transferred and spurrier left.

There was no way ron zook could bench the heisman runner up from the year before. Grossman knew it and ran amuck

 

[fade route]

Fade, for once, I must admit that your OP actually barely just crossed the border into the territory of what is "logical." This, like your successful attempts to effectively muster a coherent argument, will be an EXTREMELY rare occurrence.
Enjoy.

Uh...ok? Sounds like one of those compliments guys give a girl for looking great and fit but what they really mean is that she used to be ugly and really fat
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[knoxtownvol]

I don't get it all this talk about Da'rick doing this and that being bad for team
and all.I have not seen any comments or statements from any his teammates or coaches
complaining or saying anything bad about him and he has never been suspended from his
team.Can someone show me some facts proving all this stuff the sports writers
and others are writeing about him. I don,t think they can so to me its just A
Lieing bunch of crap

 

[82_VOL_83]

And I completely agree with what you just said. However, a position spot is not a major reason said players acted like they were older than 15. They saw a future, had a goal, and worked their ass off. To say it's a major reason is ridiculous. And if Julio or Richardson went out and committed a misdemeanor, they would've still been playing. You discredit kids that do it the right way when you say a major reason they are doing it the right way is because there's a player behind them. Your summary is 100% correct. I, however, do not feel that the OP saying a major reason those kids acting right was because they had a good player behind them.

:banghead2:

 

[82_VOL_83]

This has nothing to do with Da'rick taking advantage of our depth but Da'rick just being immature.....Dooley is in a tough spot. Da'rick is like the hot girlfriend who you can't trust because she might cheat on you, but you stay with her and give her chances because she is so hot...

And by trying to disprove the point you make the point. The hot chick knows there is no one like her waiting in the wings although there may be some that don't look so good. i.e. chick depth.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I don't get it all this talk about Da'rick doing this and that being bad for team
and all.I have not seen any comments or statements from any his teammates or coaches
complaining or saying anything bad about him and he has never been suspended from his
team.Can someone show me some facts proving all this stuff the sports writers
and others are writeing about him. I don,t think they can so to me its just A
Lieing bunch of crap

He was suspended earlier for 2 weeks. Also, don't come into this debate 11 hours and 1700 posts late and throw "Lieing (sic) bunch of crap" around. If you go back and look at some of the tweets that DR has made and couple that with some of the stuff from Ga St. you will see where our lying crap comes from.

 

[knoxtownvol]

I don't get it all this talk about Da'rick doing this and that being bad for team
and all.I have not seen any comments or statements from any his teammates or coaches
complaining or saying anything bad about him and he has never been suspended from his
team.Can someone show me some facts proving all this stuff the sports writers
and others are writeing about him. I don,t think they can so to me its just A
Lieing bunch of crap

 

[tvols75]

:banghead2:

So do you disagree that it discredits a player that does it the right way to tell them a major reason they are doing it the right way is because they have someone good that is backing them up? I'm pretty sure me and you agree on this. I think if Da'Rick had someone backing him up he would do less than what he has thus far.

 

[knoxtownvol]

He was suspended earlier for 2 weeks. Also, don't come into this debate 11 hours and 1700 posts late and throw "Lieing (sic) bunch of crap" around. If you go back and look at some of the tweets that DR has made and couple that with some of the stuff from Ga St. you will see where our lying crap comes from.

Yea but can you prove he was not just playing around with his tweets most kids do

 

[82_VOL_83]

So do you disagree that it discredits a player that does it the right way to tell them a major reason they are doing it the right way is because they have someone good that is backing them up? I'm pretty sure me and you agree on this. I think if Da'Rick had someone backing him up he would do less than what he has thus far.

Dear Lord help me. Do you understand the meaning of the word EXAMPLE. He could have said Awesome Player A, Awesome Player B, and Awesome Player C. Geez dude, get over yourself. He was making a point that lack of depth breeds a feeling of invincibility. Period, nothing more. Hell, Bama is my SECOND favorite team in college football. I didn't take offense and understood EXACTLY what he was talking about. Drop it please.

He was suspended earlier for 2 weeks. Also, don't come into this debate 11 hours and 1700 posts late and throw "Lieing (sic) bunch of crap" around. If you go back and look at some of the tweets that DR has made and couple that with some of the stuff from Ga St. you will see where our lying crap comes from.

Yea but can you prove he was not just playing around with his tweets most kids do

It isn't the proof, it's the fact that you jumped into this thread which is one of about 5 on this subject and called everyone's statements one way or another about DR doing something "A Lieing (sic) bunch of crap". Seems pretty strong to me. That is all.eace2:

Edit: Now 6 JH just started another one. HE IS EVIL!

 

[StoVol]

So do you disagree that it discredits a player that does it the right way to tell them a major reason they are doing it the right way is because they have someone good that is backing them up? I'm pretty sure me and you agree on this. I think if Da'Rick had someone backing him up he would do less than what he has thus far.

I doesn't discredit anyone.. People respond to incentives.. A great player behind you is an incentive to stay in line or lose your spot.. It is a factor . Fade did not say it was the only factor, ie some mature faster than others

 

[VolForLife83]

Justin Hunter

 

[TUSKtimes]

Competition is not the only deterrent for immature behavior. If so, the Bulldogs wouldn't be dropping players like flies on a Georgia brownie.

Good coaching = positive peer pressure. Good coaching has programs in place that affect all aspects of athlete's life, all day, all the time. It shapes their work ethic, their mind set, not only what they do, but how they accomplish the task at hand.

In short, discipline and self control are more then helping a person not to step over the line. It's having a clear understanding and developing a self motivation on why it's not in your, or your teammates best interest to be anywhere near that line to begin with.

 

[BiGdNtN]

We still have talent...young, but could be coached up over summer. If Patterson is the real deal and CJG gets the run game going, then our Offense will still be very explosive! I will not bask Da'Rick, but the way I see it is he is either a VFL or not...a team player or not...if he falls under the second options then I hope he is gone. If he wants to be a team player, work hard, and win then I sure hope he stays! Its hard for me to really bash or say too much bout it because we common folk (UT Outsiders) really have no clue what really happens inside the team. We only get about 50% truth of the matter until it is long over and done.

 

[ochocinco]

For reference, take Bama for instance. A major reason guys like Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, and Mark Barron keep their act together

kept their act together? the first two had NCAA investigators on campus for pay for play scandals and Barron was charged with hindering prosecution for lying to the police.

Julio and Trent were making more than most NFL rookies, of course they ran laps. bad choices for role models

 

[TUSKtimes]

kept their act together? the first two had NCAA investigators on campus for pay for play scandals and Barron was charged with hindering prosecution for lying to the police.

Alabama has players every year that continue to make themselves the exception to the rule. To varying degrees of mistakes, resistance and setbacks. Good coaching and well designed programs are also empowered to put a value on individual effort to comply. In any case, a smart coach is always willing to sacrifice any part, for the whole. Oh, and here is to wishing Sentimore nothing but the best.

 

[tvols75]

Dear Lord help me. Do you understand the meaning of the word EXAMPLE. He could have said Awesome Player A, Awesome Player B, and Awesome Player C. Geez dude, get over yourself. He was making a point that lack of depth breeds a feeling of invincibility. Period, nothing more. Hell, Bama is my SECOND favorite team in college football. I didn't take offense and understood EXACTLY what he was talking about. Drop it please.



It isn't the proof, it's the fact that you jumped into this thread which is one of about 5 on this subject and called everyone's statements one way or another about DR doing something "A Lieing (sic) bunch of crap". Seems pretty strong to me. That is all.eace2:

Edit: Now 6 JH just started another one. HE IS EVIL!

You get edgy really easily. Anyways, I realize it's an "example." It's not true. It's not a "Major Reason" a person stays out of trouble. Anyone of those players could've committed crimes and given second and third chances just like major players at major schools do. Once again, it discredits players that do it the right way. The premise of the OP I agree with that the lack of depth causes headcases like Da'Rick to act the same way and even worse. However, UT had plenty of depth in the 90s, and I guarantee you Haynesworth, Lewis, etc... never feared they would be benched just because there was good depth.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You get edgy really easily. Anyways, I realize it's an "example." It's not true. It's not a "Major Reason" a person stays out of trouble. Anyone of those players could've committed crimes and given second and third chances just like major players at major schools do. Once again, it discredits players that do it the right way. The premise of the OP I agree with that the lack of depth causes headcases like Da'Rick to act the same way and even worse. However, UT had plenty of depth in the 90s, and I guarantee you Haynesworth, Lewis, etc... never feared they would be benched just because there was good depth.

:banghead2:

 

[tvols75]

:banghead2:

Good point. I would get angry easily too if Alabama was my 2nd favorite team.