Dante Phillips a VOL!

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andrewh said:
Per Rivals SEC rankings...Dooley has signed 3 out of the top 5 defensive tackles. McCullers, O'Brian, & Phillips
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Fulmer and Chavis were reduced to building DT's out of HS DE's. IIRC, Kiffin didn't sign a true DT.

Fulmer once correctly said that DT's are worth their weight in gold... this more than RB's, WR's, or the more glamorous positions is a sign of UT being on the rise.
 
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NeylandTradition said:
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RIP UTVol??????????
 
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sjt18 said:
Fulmer and Chavis were reduced to building DT's out of HS DE's. IIRC, Kiffin didn't sign a true DT.

Fulmer once correctly said that DT's are worth their weight in gold... this more than RB's, WR's, or the more glamorous positions is a sign of UT being on the rise.
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Defense wins championships
 
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Cyclopskiller said:
Because they suck.
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I agree because they suck. If you are interested, here's some theories floated on gatorsports.com because they lack the mental fortitude to admit they suck.

Warning: Reading the below can result in brain freeze.

"The reasons his transcript could have been accepted by the NCAA but rejected by UF are endless, but heres some speculation. As I mentioned in my other post, I used to work for UAA in academic support and later in compliance. What follows is pure speculation - I have no knowledge of Phillips' situation at all.

First, UF requires 16 academic units:
- 4 English
- 4 Math
- 3 Natural Science with labs
- 3 Social Science
- 2 Foreign Language

Additionally, UF will accept non-accredited courses (such as Tebow's home schooling) with certain extra evidence. Either you need to pass a test in the subject through Florida Virtual School

There are other requirements to meet as well (math must be algebra1-geometry-algebra2, foreign language must be sequential, etc.)

Usually problems arise because the athlete takes a non-credited course through some B.S. online education system that caters to athletes. Then they take the final exam (you take it at a designated testing facility, like a local high school, supposedly under supervision). However, even if you pass the test the course is still subject to review. If the course doesn't fit the core requirement they don't give you credit for it.

Now athletes can take a test in the subject to prove "competency" through the Florida Virtual School. However, even if they pass the test (and it's not exactly hard to get someone else to take the test for you) the course itself is still open to review by admissions. UF will review the course material submitted, find it bears little relationship to the subject matter tested, and flag the course.

Other problems arise where the course appears to meet one of the requirements but UF won't accept it based on the actual subject taught. I recall one course I heard about third-hand entitled "Algebra and Comparative Mathematics" that was about 2 minutes of algebra and the rest more basic stuff. Though the athlete thought it covered one of UF's math credits, it did not. Other schools, however, might accept the course either directly or thorough a waiver procedure. This is how Michigan State got all of our non-qualifiers in the mid-90's.

Still other athletes trip up on simpler stuff. The NCAA will accept foreign language OR non doctrinal religion or philosophy. UF will only accept foreign language. Some athletes screw this up.

Whether a course "counts" can come down to a simple difference of opinion between UF and the NCAA. The NCAA clearinghouse might look at a course and say it satisfies a core course requirement, while UF looks at the same course and says it doesn't. This is the one that drives coaches bats**t crazy. This becomes especially problematic when the course in question puts an athlete just over the minimum acceptable GPA.

Finally, a course that the athlete does not consider a core course can be counted as a core course by UF. Let's say the athlete failed the course and is close to the GPA cut-off. If UF refigures their GPA with that failing grade, the athlete becomes ineligible.

This is my guess on Phillips: He wasn't going to qualify, probably not because of GPA but because he didn't have the right number of core credits. He took some sort of online course(s) that appeared to meet NCAA guidelines for a core subject (and maybe even did meet those guidelines - the NCAA standard is looser than UFs) to make up the credits. NCAA clearinghouse said OK (but they don't really look at the course content). UF took a closer look and said no. Given that Phillips didn't even try to get into UF in the fall, I'd guess that we are talking about more than one course, which would leave him with too much to make up to qualify for Fall.

Again, I could be completely wrong here, so take it with a grain of salt.

UF's academic requirements are not exactly stringent for athletes. I've seen first hand guys who get admitted and are shockingly deficient in basic academic skills. This isn't a knock on their basic intelligence or work ethic - it just that in most public Florida high schools that produce D1 players, star athletes sometimes get a pass. When these kids get to school they know what time it is, and for the most part they work their a$$es off to catch up and stay eligible. It doesn't get any press at all but you would be proud if you saw how hard a lot of these guys work to catch up and then keep up - they really do a lot more than most people realize.

That said, I'll reiterate my point from the other thread -- if you can't get yourself into UF as an athlete, most of the time you are going to have a really tough time staying eligible. Obviously there are exceptions, but in my experience those guys never play a down anyway, even if they do make it in. In other words, don't fret Phillips loss - its exceptionally unlikely he would have contributed this coming year."

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Nay, they just suck!
 
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Welcome to Rocky Top Mr. Phillips, disregard any negativity, focus on the positives, work hard on the field and stay eligible, learn from some of the best, and have a great TENNESSEE ORANGE career. Thanks for coming our way, make the best of it. GO VOLS
 
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#1ArencibiaFan said:
That's the point. UT has lower academic standards than Florida.
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Watch any interviews of their football players not named Tebow? I don't think their bringing in any more intelligent players than what we are. Think about it!
 
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TNGlen said:
AJ, you going to Lanta? If so, where you sittin???
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I had tickets, but had to give them up due to conflicting plans. I will be in Knoxville for UF, and God willing Bama. A good friend of mine has chosen the third Saturday in October as his tentative wedding date.:mega_shok:
 
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Haven't posted in a while, but I have been keeping tabs on Volnation.:naughty:

But now I think it;s a PERFECT time to comment.....so here goes::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks:
 
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Eye doesn't give a crap wear we rank acedemicaully. Long as we when dem dare futball games.
 
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fade route said:
I can't tell you the utter bliss I'm experiencing on my birthday. First, my company announces salary and bonus bumps in the name of talent retention, and then I step off a plane and log into VN and see this.......I wish I could turn 41 every freakin day.
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Also my birthday ... Happy birthday to us !
 
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fade route said:
I can't tell you the utter bliss I'm experiencing on my birthday. First, my company announces salary and bonus bumps in the name of talent retention, and then I step off a plane and log into VN and see this.......I wish I could turn 41 every freakin day.
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Happy Birthday indeed.
 
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AJeray4TN said:
I had tickets, but had to give them up due to conflicting plans. I will be in Knoxville for UF, and God willing Bama. A good friend of mine has chosen the third Saturday in October as his tentative wedding date.:mega_shok:
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