Dan Mullen or Greg Schanio? Now Currie's targets

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Mullen should be 3rd or 4th choice imo. Schiano would be outside the top 10 for me. How is it that Florida can go get Chip Kelly (supposedly), and we can’t seem to get away from the “I was so close” coaches of the world. Oh well. If Schiano comes to Knoxville, I say fold the program. I’m not putting any more generations of my family through this cluster kcuf of a program. They’re running it into oblivion. Hope for the right hire! Expect the worse. True life of a modern day vol. GBO....? So negative, but so hard not to be at this point. CMON CURRIE!!! F@*#!!!
 
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Either would be good hires. Mullen could have better resources and players which should turn into more wins. Schiano is tough,defensive and knows how the NFL operates. Both have HC experience which is more than any co ordinator
 
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pcolavol2 said:
Either would be good hires. Mullen could have better resources and players which should turn into more wins. Schiano is tough,defensive and knows how the NFL operates. Both have HC experience which is more than any co ordinator
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Seems like any time Schiano plays a good team though, his defense folds. Iowa, Oklahoma, and Clemson just in the last year alone. He can't cut it in big games
 
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thehill98 said:
Would have the same thing here except the other division, plus if we do make the champ game, we get to play them again. Difference is, the fans here will hate him for it and he’ll be run out pretty soon.
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The point that I made was that when the OP said Mullen was slightly more successful than Sherrill at Mississippi State, Sherrill didn't have to deal with Saban's dominance.
 
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KBVol said:
He was 68-67 at Big Ten Rutgers, hasn’t been a collegiate head coach anywhere else.....and he’s an amazing coach who can build a winning program anywhere? Come on now. Nobody, except you evidently, is confusing Schiano with Nick Saban.
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It was Big East Rutgers.

6 of the 9 coaches immediately before Schiano at Rutgers had better records than Schiano. So did the coach that immediately followed him.
 
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UTVOLS1614 said:
Average? They were a top 10 team. I don’t think people understand what kind of program Rutgers is and how amazing it is to bring them to a top 10 ranking. That program is literally horse****. Trust me i pretty much see first hand. Nobody in NJ wants to go there. The only jersey recruits they get are ones who don’t have big out of state offers. You literally won’t find a Rutgers fan who didn’t attend the university around here. And even them they all have another team they usually root for. 10x more likely to find a Penn State bar in jersey then Rutgers. With that being said the only time any casual fan ever watched Rutgers was when Schiano was there. If he can get it done in New Brunswick I’d love to see what he can do in Knoxville. The guys very well respected from people who were around program at the time
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People have very short memories....

When Schiano was at Rutgers watching his teams play and beat top 10 & top 5 teams with so much less talent you could tell him as a HC in college is as about a good of a coach as you will see....

What he did at Rutgers was absolutely amazing. And it was all his coaching and instilling a winning attitude to his teams....
 
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vols1707 said:
People have very short memories....

When Schiano was at Rutgers watching his teams play and beat top 10 & top 5 teams with so much less talent you could tell him as a HC in college is as about a good of a coach as you will see....

What he did at Rutgers was absolutely amazing. And it was all his coaching and instilling a winning attitude to his teams....
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People are crazy.

He finished inside the top 25 one time. And those top teams he beat were Louisville and USF.

Those teams schedules were absolutely atrocious. None of those teams would have posted 75% or better win rates in any power 5 conference.

Did he turn a program around? Sure. But was he ever at any season a top 10-15 coach in the country? Hell no.
 
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jmsqb11 said:
people are crazy.

He finished inside the top 25 one time. And those top teams he beat were louisville and usf.

Those teams schedules were absolutely atrocious. None of those teams would have posted 75% or better win rates in any power 5 conference.

Did he turn a program around? Sure. But was he ever at any season a top 10-15 coach in the country? Hell no.
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he was at rutgers.
 
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1707... Everything you've said about schiano can be applied to Mullen except Mullen has done it in the sec west. Advantage Mullen.
 
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I strongly dislike Mullen and Schiano. Schiano's resume doesn't impress me. I haven't looked into his career as much, though. I am much more familiar with MSU and Mullen. I have several concerns about Mullen.

8 years into the program, you can't have a losing season. It's squarely on the coach if you get beat by Kentucky and USA in the same year.

Nine chances to beat Alabama... Never able to get it done. Had em on the ropes this last time, but he got outcoached. His record against ranked teams is really bad. I believe he has a psychological block. I think he is missing the psychological capacity to win big games.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
It was Big East Rutgers.

6 of the 9 coaches immediately before Schiano at Rutgers had better records than Schiano. So did the coach that immediately followed him.
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I like your statistics. 6 out of 9 is correct. The only problem is that all 6 coached at Rutgers before 1984. The 3 coaches that had worse records were the 3 that immediately preceded him and coached Rutgers in the last 17 years before he got there.

He walked into a mess, and left the program in good enough shape that the coach who followed him was able to keep the program running smoothly for a couple more years.
 
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HuntsVol_AL said:
I strongly dislike Mullen and Schiano. Schiano's resume doesn't impress me. I haven't looked into his career as much, though. I am much more familiar with MSU and Mullen. I have several concerns about Mullen.

8 years into the program, you can't have a losing season. It's squarely on the coach if you get beat by Kentucky and USA in the same year.

Nine chances to beat Alabama... Never able to get it done. Had em on the ropes this last time, but he got outcoached. His record against ranked teams is really bad. I believe he has a psychological block. I think he is missing the psychological capacity to win big games.
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So you think he should have beat saban with a vanderbuilt/kY type team? Which has been doing better than TN by the way.
 
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HuntsVol_AL said:
I strongly dislike Mullen and Schiano. Schiano's resume doesn't impress me. I haven't looked into his career as much, though. I am much more familiar with MSU and Mullen. I have several concerns about Mullen.

8 years into the program, you can't have a losing season. It's squarely on the coach if you get beat by Kentucky and USA in the same year.

Nine chances to beat Alabama... Never able to get it done. Had em on the ropes this last time, but he got outcoached. His record against ranked teams is really bad. I believe he has a psychological block. I think he is missing the psychological capacity to win big games.
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Who can we realistically hire that you think can beat Saban. How many have had much success against Alabama since he has been there? It ain't happening.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Who can we realistically hire that you think can beat Saban. How many have had much success against Alabama since he has been there? It ain't happening.
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Only thing I can think of would be a random hire of stoops, but how realistic is that, right? lol
 
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LeBleu said:
So you think he should have beat saban with a vanderbuilt/kY type team? Which has been doing better than TN by the way.
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Freeze didn't have a problem doing it and should have 3 straight years. And over the past 9 years Ole Miss overall conference recruiting average puts them at #7 in the entire conference. It's all about scheme and creating mismatches. Ole Miss did it with much less talent back to back years and if not for a total turnover collapse it would have been 3 straight years. Mullen had the team when he got them to #1 to beat Ala but Prescott and Mullen choked it away. Instead of attacking they tried to go at Alabama's tempo back then and it killed them. Miss St had every opportunity to beat them 2 weeks ago but again he couldn't get it done.
 
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Really don't care who it is but I want a good recruiter that'll hire the best possible assistants and let them do their thing.
 
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The fact that are actually discussing the possibility of Schiano as coach just shows how far in the gutter our program has gone. Very sad
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Freeze didn't have a problem doing it and should have 3 straight years. And over the past 9 years Ole Miss overall conference recruiting average puts them at #7 in the entire conference. It's all about scheme and creating mismatches. Ole Miss did it with much less talent back to back years and if not for a total turnover collapse it would have been 3 straight years. Mullen had the team when he got them to #1 to beat Ala but Prescott and Mullen choked it away. Instead of attacking they tried to go at Alabama's tempo back then and it killed them. Miss St had every opportunity to beat them 2 weeks ago but again he couldn't get it done.
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You do know about all the cheating at Ole Miss right? Mullen has been much more impressive than Freeze was.
 
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LeBleu said:
Only thing I can think of would be a random hire of stoops, but how realistic is that, right? lol
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Stoops' reason for retiring was that his father died of a heart attack while coaching a high school game in his late 50's. That has stayed on his mind, and he said he didn't want to go from the sideline straight to the graveyard. I think he's done.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Who can we realistically hire that you think can beat Saban. How many have had much success against Alabama since he has been there? It ain't happening.
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Very few Miles and Freeze. Gus a couple times too. Not saying we should beat them regularly cause that's not gonna happen as long as Saban is there. But if Freeze can do it back to back years and should have been 3 straight years then we should be able to on occasion and other years keep it respectable. It's not easy but Saban has shown he can be beaten especially if you can be explosive in the run and pass game. You can't be one dimensional or have a statue at QB but they can be vulnerable in the Secondary when you have to respect the QB's running and passing.
 
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