Dallas Thomas & Miami Dolphins

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What are you guys thoughts on the Incognito & Martin situation? I wonder what type of "hazing" Dallas has experienced as a rookie lineman and I am sure he will be asked numerous questions by the NFL during their investigation. Seems like a tough situation for the entire organization and especially Mr Martin. Also, do you UT will address this situation to the team? I recall a thread yesterday about CBJ "chewing" on some players (calling them soft???). Thanks
 
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There's a difference between lighthearted hazing or being tough on players and what was going on in the Dolphin locker room.
 
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GAVol said:
There's a difference between lighthearted hazing or being tough on players and what was going on in the Dolphin locker room.
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Yep. Incognito is a despicable person and its equally shameful that the players and coaches knew what was happening and did nothing.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Yep. Incognito is a despicable person and its equally shameful that the players and coaches knew what was happening and did nothing.
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And the financial burden that it seems veterans were putting on rookies making much less money. I don't see how they don't clean house.
 
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GAVol said:
There's a difference between lighthearted hazing or being tough on players and what was going on in the Dolphin locker room.
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This situation is serious. I hope that the NFL does the right thing here. Incognito (whatever his name is) has had issues going back to Nebraska. He got into to trouble with another team & was released due to anger issues. Sounds like he is just a big ole bully with some anger management problems.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Yep. Incognito is a despicable person and its equally shameful that the players and coaches knew what was happening and did nothing.
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I wasn't aware of the coaches and players knowing about the texts and voice mail. That will rite fully cost some coaches their jobs I imagine.
 
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I've been a lifelong Dolphin fan and I am absolutely disgusted with the franchise. Zero leadership from the very top of the management chain to the entire roster.

Incognito is a jerk, always has been. Amazing to me they allowed him to be on the so-called Leadership Counsel and then turned him loose to "toughen-up" Martin. But having said that, there is no way this was simply between him and Martin...the entire offensive line is complicit if not more on the roster.

Between the GM being on the ropes for the past few years and Philbin being over his head as a head coach, there's no wonder they are floundering around with 7-8 wins a year.
 
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I believe there are some direct reflections of Incognito and the teams he has been on over the past years. He seems like a "virus" that can kill team chemistry and result in poor performance of those teams.
 
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GAVol said:
There's a difference between lighthearted hazing or being tough on players and what was going on in the Dolphin locker room.
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serious question: what is the difference?

I have no idea what is considered typical hazing.
 
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you said:
serious question: what is the difference?

I have no idea what is considered typical hazing.
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Example: Rookies of the Detroit Lions have to buy Turkeys for the veterans on Thanksgiving.

Acceptable, IMO.

Destroying another man's self-image, not so much.
 
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This stuff pales in comparison to some of the things I've seen football players do in their locker rooms..
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Example: Rookies of the Detroit Lions have to buy Turkeys for the veterans on Thanksgiving.

Acceptable, IMO.

Destroying another man's self-image, not so much.
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There is a thread about this in the NFL forum. Also, Dallas Thomas is a guy that probably should be lightly hazed...


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jkleno said:
What are you guys thoughts on the Incognito & Martin situation? I wonder what type of "hazing" Dallas has experienced as a rookie lineman and I am sure he will be asked numerous questions by the NFL during their investigation. Seems like a tough situation for the entire organization and especially Mr Martin. Also, do you UT will address this situation to the team? I recall a thread yesterday about CBJ "chewing" on some players (calling them soft???). Thanks
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I wonder if since Incognito is suspended, will this translate in to more playing time for Dallas?
 
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WinginFlorida said:
I've been a lifelong Dolphin fan and I am absolutely disgusted with the franchise. Zero leadership from the very top of the management chain to the entire roster.

Incognito is a jerk, always has been. Amazing to me they allowed him to be on the so-called Leadership Counsel and then turned him loose to "toughen-up" Martin. But having said that, there is no way this was simply between him and Martin...the entire offensive line is complicit if not more on the roster.

Between the GM being on the ropes for the past few years and Philbin being over his head as a head coach, there's no wonder they are floundering around with 7-8 wins a year.
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I don't mind a coach or GM signing Incognito - truth is the NFL is full of these borderline crazy SOB's - but allowing him on the leadership council is the unforgivable thing - you knew he was crazy when you signed him - giving a position of leadership is just stupid and asking for trouble
 
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SCvol333 said:
I don't mind a coach or GM signing Incognito - truth is the NFL is full of these borderline crazy SOB's - but allowing him on the leadership council is the unforgivable thing - you knew he was crazy when you signed him - giving a position of leadership is just stupid and asking for trouble
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I've heard that Tony Dungey (while at Indy) and the Patriots both tagged him as "poor character, do not want" when he was eligible for the draft. But you are right, there are far more franchises that were willing to take a flyer on him. However, you would expect he would have had a very short leash on many of these teams. But the geniuses in Miami not only gave him authority, they encouraged the undesirable side of his behavior.

SMH...
 
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I just think the NFL needs to make a strict rule prohibiting any form of hazing, and enforce it as sternly as they do helmet to helmet hits. Why? Cause they are supposed to be f__king PROFESSIONALS! Hazing folks with BS haircuts and forcing rookies to pay for stuff, etc...is juvenile BS! It has no place in ANY profession.

When I was in the Army, I pulled a little prank on some other soldiers, with the little penny stack jammed in the door seam (it puts so much pressure on the door knob, it's really hard to open the door). I just did it for about 30 sec....and I ended up getting an Article 15 for it.

They didn't play around with that stuff in the Army, so the NFL damn sure shouldn't. Don't know of any workplace I've ever been in, where they would tolerate hazing/harrassing of any kind.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
I've heard that Tony Dungey (while at Indy) and the Patriots both tagged him as "poor character, do not want" when he was eligible for the draft. But you are right, there are far more franchises that were willing to take a flyer on him. However, you would expect he would have had a very short leash on many of these teams. But the geniuses in Miami not only gave him authority, they encouraged the undesirable side of his behavior.

SMH...
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yeah Dungy always seemed to run a cleaner ship than most - the Pats used to have that perception but after the AHernandez debacle not so sure we should trust their character evaluation too much!

I would have definitely expected a short leash - was just shocked when I heard he was on the leadership council - bizarre
 
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