Da Reds thread

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If it were that easy you really think certain players would still be on their respective teams?
 
#10,655
#10,655
OK Reds fans, since it is the silly season for baseball - do you give up some of the gold to get twice as much silver? That's got to be in Walt's thinking. Deal BP to fix holes such as LF and 3rd while going with less production at second and hope Cozart will continue to progress with the bat? Worst case you bring up H-Rod or somebody like that to fill it.

Are you sure the Cubs, Stros or Mets won't take Broxton and his salary? They used to be good for a skanky deal or two.
 
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Vols4us said:
OK Reds fans, since it is the silly season for baseball - do you give up some of the gold to get twice as much silver? That's got to be in Walt's thinking. Deal BP to fix holes such as LF and 3rd while going with less production at second and hope Cozart will continue to progress with the bat? Worst case you bring up H-Rod or somebody like that to fill it.

Are you sure the Cubs, Stros or Mets won't take Broxton and his salary? They used to be good for a skanky deal or two.
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reds finish 3rd in the central next year, back to square one. should be enough to get jocketty out of there at the very least. don't think anybody is going to take an overpaid fat boy off our hands. team will be the same heading into the season with bronson and choo gone. no major pickups. just the way it is when you are a small market team with bad management.
 
#10,659
#10,659
So if they sit still and ride the Votto/BP/Bruce promotion train for another season they will need to have answers in 2015 or else the ticket sales will tube with a non-playoff season. If I think there is a good chance that will happen I am making a trade to move one of the big three out with some value players coming in. It appears they play to build an OF of Billy, Ervin and/or Y-Rod for 2016 on. So at some point even Jay becomes expendable if the young guys produce and he doesn't take the next step.
 
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Vols4us said:
So if they sit still and ride the Votto/BP/Bruce promotion train for another season they will need to have answers in 2015 or else the ticket sales will tube with a non-playoff season. If I think there is a good chance that will happen I am making a trade to move one of the big three out with some value players coming in. It appears they play to build an OF of Billy, Ervin and/or Y-Rod for 2016 on. So at some point even Jay becomes expendable if the young guys produce and he doesn't take the next step.
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i wouldn't call the reds management smart.lol
 
#10,662
#10,662
Looks like Hanni will be gone soon. Could be part of a major trade. Gaining a really good bat and losing some D with this one. I guess they hope Mez takes the next step.

Cincinnati Reds agree to terms with catcher Brayan Pena | reds.com: News

Many a message board posting rumors of BP going to the Yankees or Braves. I agree with you, bluepotato. Time to shat or get off the pot.
 
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Anyone have any info about what the reds are asking for phillips? All I have seen is the price is too steep. Not sure what to make of that.
 
#10,664
#10,664
Hopefully not much given their lack of leverage, his contract, and his eroding (and not great to begin with) skill set.
 
#10,665
#10,665
Everything I read is that he is gone regardless of what they get so they can extend Bruce for the remainder of his career. That would be a good reason in my book since BP is heading into the decline years. Walt may have been using the Yankees to gauge the overall interest as he knew that would open up the market. I have not seen anything on what the proposal actually was.

One decent poster on the Cincy site is claiming a trade will happen with the Rangers that sends Cozart, Bailey and Hanni for Elvis Andrus and some others. Seemed more of a neutral trade if it happened other than getting a guy that could hit lead off if Hamilton isn't ready for the role. It would make some sense for the Rangers to fill their needs. If the Reds got some good talent for the farm system it might make sense. With Chappy likely to move into the starting rotation, moving Bailey would not be a bad thing for the right deal.
 
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Vols4us said:
Everything I read is that he is gone regardless of what they get so they can extend Bruce for the remainder of his career. That would be a good reason in my book since BP is heading into the decline years. Walt may have been using the Yankees to gauge the overall interest as he knew that would open up the market. I have not seen anything on what the proposal actually was.

One decent poster on the Cincy site is claiming a trade will happen with the Rangers that sends Cozart, Bailey and Hanni for Elvis Andrus and some others. Seemed more of a neutral trade if it happened other than getting a guy that could hit lead off if Hamilton isn't ready for the role. It would make some sense for the Rangers to fill their needs. If the Reds got some good talent for the farm system it might make sense. With Chappy likely to move into the starting rotation, moving Bailey would not be a bad thing for the right deal.
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That's an interesting trade possibility to think about. If chappy does move to the rotation, he must develop that 3rd pitch and be effective with it.
 
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blupotato said:
That's an interesting trade possibility to think about. If chappy does move to the rotation, he must develop that 3rd pitch and be effective with it.
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That's a big reason for Pena. Since they are both Cuban and he has the experience to work with him and the pitching coach on the change-up. Heat, wicked slider and a good change. Also they will probably get him to work on diversifying his heat with the two seamer.

Pena is not as good defensively. But with Chappy's speed and delivery the base stealing will be limited anyway.
 
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blupotato said:
Reds add hitting, pitching coaches to Bryan Price’s staff | Cincinnati Reds

No more Jacoby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:fireworks:
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Thanks for this, blue! Made my day.

I'm liking what I am seeing. It is starting to look like Price has prepared for this years in advance. He has developed his own stable of experienced guys and is sending the elevator down now that he is the man. Also opens the door to some better FA signings down the line IMO. This team may look and play different than what we are used to seeing regardless of the roster moves.
 
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