D4H's 2018 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings

[BIG BOI 23]

Hope you’re right D4H since my giants took Barkley

One thing D4H will never accept but is the absolute truth

The draft is a crap shoot

Remember Trent Richardson guaranteed stud right?

My Bucs picked Mark Barron according to the whole table of taking heads esp Gruden they said the Bucs landed the safest pick in the draft lol foh kid was average as ****

 

[BIG BOI 23]

I’ll go with a sleeper pick

WR Trey Quinn SMU

Would be a great fit in NE

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

well D4H i had written a long response, but internet dropped. Here's the summary.

Kerryon will be top 5, and not number 9, but it is a deep RB class

I'm not big on Tayven Bryan. I just don't see him panning out in the NFL.

I like Will Hernandez. I believe you have him properly ranked. I just wanted to point out that I like him.

The WR and EDGE class does not excite. I'm sure some of them will do well, but I'm just not excited about any of them. Looking at the list I see guys that need 3+ years before they do anything significant.

you called Leighton Vander Esch months ago, and I'm on board now. I hope Cowboys get him.

Thoughts?

This RB class is do good, it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up the 5th best.

Taven Bryan is a boom or bust candidate. His physical talent is great.

I think the WR class will look great down the road. Most of the guys I like are Day 2 and Day 3 picks. Also WR is a position that takes time to learn in the NFL. Very rarely do rookies come in and dominate.

Be excited about Leighton Vander Esch. He's a perennial All-Pro who should be in contention for the best LB in football before long. The Cowboys made one of the best selections in the 1st round along with the Giants picking Saquon Barkley, the Bills picking Josh Allen, the Dolphins picking Minkah Fitzpatrick, the Chargers picking Derwin James, and the Ravens picking Lamar Jackson. Those were the best picks of the 1st round.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

If D4H says Walton is a guy to watch then I’ll keep an eye on him.

If you remember, last year D4H was the only person to have Kamara rated as a perennial all pro future HOF. So far he has been on the money.

Give the kid his props. He obviously has an eye for talent.

Mark Walton is special. He's a poor man's Saquon Barkley. Not as big. And not as fast in the open field. But he's just as elusive and has outstanding vision and patience. He'll be a stud RB in the NFL as long as he can stay healthy. Durability was an issue for him in college.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

If Callaway could actually learn from his mistakes and didn’t get involved in the credit card **** he would absolutely be the top WR in this class

He has it all talent wise

Hands
Speed
Top notch route running
Fantastic ability to make guys miss after the catch
Can be one of the best kick/punt returners in the league

Plus at UF at least he consistently came thru with big plays when they were needed most whether it was long td catch, long catch to get to red zone to set up TD, or returning kicks punts when the team was desperate for some kind of momentum kid just got that dog in him where he wants the ball in the biggest moments

He just knows he can beat the man across from him


Don’t get me wrong Sutton and Ridley are both very good but I don’t think they on AC level

Watch these highlights you will see the boy is electric def has the talent to be one of 5-7 best WR in league

Biggest Playmaker in the SEC || Florida WR Antonio Callaway Career Highlights ᴴᴰ - YouTube

Antonio Callaway has a chance to be the best WR in the NFL for the next decade.

His talent is that good. I agree with your evaluation of his skill set 100%.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Hope you’re right D4H since my giants took Barkley

He's the best player in this draft. He should make the biggest impact immediately. Outstanding choice by the Giants. You should be ecstatic.

Saquon Barkley is as close to a PERFECT prospect as it gets.

He'll be the best RB in the NFL the second he walks onto the field.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

He’s not right about Barkley....Saquon isn’t the best running back in the history of organized football. But as everybody else on God’s green earth who follows college football knows, he’s an immensely talented, versatile player who’s gonna be a very good pro barring injury.

Why the switch up now?

I clearly remember seeing you spend most of last year going through Saquon Barkley's box score trying to argue that he wasn't that good because of some poor rushing stats.

What changed between then and now?

 

[TDawg]

If D4H says Walton is a guy to watch then I’ll keep an eye on him.

If you remember, last year D4H was the only person to have Kamara rated as a perennial all pro future HOF. So far he has been on the money.

Give the kid his props. He obviously has an eye for talent.

Ok, so I had my suspicions already but this one post tells me this is nothing more than D4H figuring out how to run multiple accounts. That line is such a bunch of BS its ridiculous. First, because many thought AK would be successful in the league and second, because calling someone a "perennial all pro future HOF" DURING his rookie year is just stupid. Especially when his numbers started to tail off at the end of the year. The kid is good but only D4H throws that rhetoric out so welcome to the board D4H II.

lol:

 

[TDawg]

One thing D4H will never accept but is the absolute truth

The draft is a crap shoot

Remember Trent Richardson guaranteed stud right?

My Bucs picked Mark Barron according to the whole table of taking heads esp Gruden they said the Bucs landed the safest pick in the draft lol foh kid was average as ****

Being in Tampa, I too am a Bucs fan (see, common ground is cool) .. and I liked the pick last night of Vita

 

[TDawg]

He's the best player in this draft. He should make the biggest impact immediately. Outstanding choice by the Giants. You should be ecstatic.

Saquon Barkley is as close to a PERFECT prospect as it gets.

He'll be the best RB in the NFL the second he walks onto the field.

Its statements like that last one that cause no one to take you seriously. Calling someone the best RB in the NFL the second they walk on the field, before they ever take a snap against a defense at that level is just lunacy and utterly inaccurate. That's the truth. No rookie EVER was the best at their position the moment they got there.

 

[BearCat204]

Nope. That's actually another person.

Not everyone is like you. There are some intelligent people on this site who appreciate my contributions.

You wouldn't know intelligence if it walked up and punched you in the throat.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Ok, so I had my suspicions already but this one post tells me this is nothing more than D4H figuring out how to run multiple accounts. That line is such a bunch of BS its ridiculous. First, because many thought AK would be successful in the league and second, because calling someone a "perennial all pro future HOF" DURING his rookie year is just stupid. Especially when his numbers started to tail off at the end of the year. The kid is good but only D4H throws that rhetoric out so welcome to the board D4H II.

lol:

Alvin Kamara was 2nd team All Pro last year as a rookie. The only rookie to make the All Pro team.

There is no reason to think Alvin won't be making the All Pro team annually over the next few years.

And FYI that isn't me. Yall need to realize I don't care enough about what y'all think about me to create alternate accounts to pat myself on the back. I do a pretty good job myself with just this account and screen name patting myself on the back for all my great calls thus far. So please stop making these allegations that I'm creating alternate accounts to give myself credit.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Its statements like that last one that cause no one to take you seriously. Calling someone the best RB in the NFL the second they walk on the field, before they ever take a snap against a defense at that level is just lunacy and utterly inaccurate. That's the truth. No rookie EVER was the best at their position the moment they got there.

Randy Moss in 1998 says otherwise.

Easily the best WR in the NFL that season. And arguably the greatest year of Randy's Hall of Fame career.

 

[BIG BOI 23]

Randy Moss in 1998 says otherwise.

Easily the best WR in the NFL that season. And arguably the greatest year of Randy's Hall of Fame career.

Wasn’t Jerry Rice still ballin then?

Also isn’t he the undisputed GOAT wide receiver

There isn’t even an argument to be made for anybody else

You can talk about talent or what ever but I’m drafting 21 year old Jerry you can have 21 year old Randy


I will give you this tho Randy probably was the best WR in the league his rookie year he was a freak putting up 150 and 2 or 3 touchdowns routinely

 

[TDawg]

Randy Moss in 1998 says otherwise.

Easily the best WR in the NFL that season. And arguably the greatest year of Randy's Hall of Fame career.

Antonio Freeman, Jerry Rice would like to introduce themselves. In fact, it can be said that as a rookie, Moss wouldn't have been anywhere near as good without Chris Carter on the other side .. Moss got the benefit of a lot of one on one's that year. As for his best year ... COME ON!!! Maybe like his fourth best and that's if you put it above his 2009 season with the Pats (The 2007 season was his best and it's not that close).

I am guessing you were probably like 2 years old that year but he wasn't the best WR the moment he hit the field. He was probably the best by his third year though.

 

[TDawg]

Wasn’t Jerry Rice still ballin then?

Also isn’t he the undisputed GOAT wide receiver

There isn’t even an argument to be made for anybody else

You can talk about talent or what ever but I’m drafting 21 year old Jerry you can have 21 year old Randy


I will give you this tho Randy probably was the best WR in the league his rookie year he was a freak putting up 150 and 2 or 3 touchdowns routinely

Jerry may be the best FOOTBALL player ever at any position but Randy had gaudy YPC numbers because he could streak down the sideline that year and let Cunningham hurl it 50 yards deep and 50 yards straight up. Chris Carter was still a hell of a WR and was hell to cover so they couldn't just leave him one on one so many teams took the chance with the rook and left him with a corner on the outside. Where Randy got good was when they decided to double him in year two and on and he started beating the brakes off of them too.

 

[TDawg]

Alvin Kamara was 2nd team All Pro last year as a rookie. The only rookie to make the All Pro team.

There is no reason to think Alvin won't be making the All Pro team annually over the next few years.

And FYI that isn't me. Yall need to realize I don't care enough about what y'all think about me to create alternate accounts to pat myself on the back. I do a pretty good job myself with just this account and screen name patting myself on the back for all my great calls thus far. So please stop making these allegations that I'm creating alternate accounts to give myself credit.

So there are two people out there using the same exact hyperbole and cliche's? Nah, ain't buying it. I think you're so starved for attention and approval you will give it to yourself if you have to. Nice name though, I guess Dobbs For MVP or Kamara for HOF would have given it away too easily.

 

[GAVol]

Antonio Freeman, Jerry Rice would like to introduce themselves. In fact, it can be said that as a rookie, Moss wouldn't have been anywhere near as good without Chris Carter on the other side .. Moss got the benefit of a lot of one on one's that year. As for his best year ... COME ON!!! Maybe like his fourth best and that's if you put it above his 2009 season with the Pats (The 2007 season was his best and it's not that close).

I am guessing you were probably like 2 years old that year but he wasn't the best WR the moment he hit the field. He was probably the best by his third year though.

100% right. That 98 Vikings offense was one of the best ever. Moss surely helped stretch the field, but they had matchup nightmares everywhere.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Wasn’t Jerry Rice still ballin then?

Also isn’t he the undisputed GOAT wide receiver

There isn’t even an argument to be made for anybody else

You can talk about talent or what ever but I’m drafting 21 year old Jerry you can have 21 year old Randy


I will give you this tho Randy probably was the best WR in the league his rookie year he was a freak putting up 150 and 2 or 3 touchdowns routinely

Come on now. Jerry Rice was 36 years old in 1998. And eventhough he statistically had a good season (1100 yards and 9 TDs) he was nowhere close to the best receiver in the NFL. That was Randy Moss by a wide margin. And everyone who was watching football back then knew it.

Randy Moss was clearly the best WR in the NFL from the moment he stepped foot in the league in 1998.

 

[GAVol]

Come on now. Jerry Rice was 36 years old in 1998. And eventhough he statistically had a good season (1100 yards and 9 TDs) he was nowhere close to the best receiver in the NFL. That was Randy Moss by a wide margin. And everyone who was watching football back then knew it.

Randy Moss was clearly the best WR in the NFL from the moment he stepped foot in the league in 1998.

He was great.. but stop acting like you've got the first clue what anybody was thinking more than about 5 years ago.

 

[KBVol]

Why the switch up now?

I clearly remember seeing you spend most of last year going through Saquon Barkley's box score trying to argue that he wasn't that good because of some poor rushing stats.

What changed between then and now?

Absolutely ZERO change dude. I don’t switch in the wind like you, I’m not a hypocrite like you. I said several times from the very beginning in debates with you, primarily in your “Saquon Barkley is the greatest running back of all-time” thread, that Saquon is an outstanding talent and was very likely the best running back in the country last year. Said it then, never wavered.

I ONLY took issue, like everyone else did, with your ridiculous statement that he was the greatest running back in the history of football. And when I was referencing his box scores/stats at different points, it was only to dispel your stupid proclamation and to counter it with empirical evidence. In other words, the “greatest running back of all-time” wouldn’t get stuffed for 44 yards on 21 carries vs OSU, or 56 yards on 20 carries vs Indians or 35 yards on 14 carries vs freaking Rutgers.....which, he clearly wouldn’t. The greatest running back of all time wouldn’t rack up 135 yards on 55 carries for 2.45 yards per carry in those 3 games

Never went back on what I originally said about him being a great talent and probably the best collegiate running back in the country last year. Anybody that saw him play as a freshman knee he was a special talent/running back, but only you did what you always do, and proclaim him the best ever.

 

[you]

Be excited about Leighton Vander Esch. He's a perennial All-Pro who should be in contention for the best LB in football before long. The Cowboys made one of the best selections in the 1st round along with the Giants picking Saquon Barkley, the Bills picking Josh Allen, the Dolphins picking Minkah Fitzpatrick, the Chargers picking Derwin James, and the Ravens picking Lamar Jackson. Those were the best picks of the 1st round.

I agree. There was great value on some of these pics. Mainly because the browns took Day 2 players at the top of the draft. There are some really good difference makers on the board for day 2

 

[BIG BOI 23]

Come on now. Jerry Rice was 36 years old in 1998. And eventhough he statistically had a good season (1100 yards and 9 TDs) he was nowhere close to the best receiver in the NFL. That was Randy Moss by a wide margin. And everyone who was watching football back then knew it.

Randy Moss was clearly the best WR in the NFL from the moment he stepped foot in the league in 1998.

Ya my last paragraph basically admitted that he was the best his rookie yr

But guess what 4 years later when rice was 40 he made another pro bowl lol

NOBODY will ever top Jerry. his receiving records are as safe as Emmit rushing records

And his longevity will never be duplicated

Also Randy was far from the best in Oakland lol dude was completely forgotten about

 

[goldvol]

Baker Mayfield, round 3. Nice call, D4H ilot:

 

[goldvol]

Riddle me this, Batman. How do you have 15 players graded as "Top 10" or better?