D. Johnson’s Impact Was & Will Be Missed?

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DiderotsGhost said:
He should be back for Kentucky. Think the rule for targeting is that you are out for the half you are in plus the next half. So if you commit targeting in the 2nd half of a game, you're out for the 1st half of the next. Since he committed in the 1st half against Georgia, he was out the 2nd half, but back for Kentucky.
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The number 1 rule I wish to be abolished, and the need to explain it to die with it. Otherwise, you explained it well.
 
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SycloneJoe said:
It was definitely a “bone head” play but I hate how that weak hit gets you ejected yet the much more dangerous chop block gets nothing.
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It was targeting. It was half-baked targeting, but it was clear and was addressed correctly.

Allowing targeting produces an environment that endangers players lives and cognitive function. Until you’ve sat in a nursing home with a 50 something year old Tennessee and NFL legend... you may not get it.

As heinous as chop blocks are- they are not dangerous on the same level.
 
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volsrock09 said:
I would probably have to agree with you. Thats the weakest targeting that I've seen to date. I'm not arguing that it wasn't and it definitely was a dumb thing to do, but if youre going to do that, at least make the guy feel it and leave a lasting memory for him.
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Exactly. I know it was a fair call, i just wish he woulda made it count. Not saying i want Bennett to get hurt but it woulda been a nice trade off to shake him up a little.
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
He lowered his head and make contact with the crown of his helmet with Stepson's helmet...when i saw the replay I knew he was toast.
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He didn’t launch using the crown of the helmet, wasn’t trying to injure the player, just a stupid 15 yard PF penalty for any other team, but a targeting call for UT. SEC refs make the game unwatchable for me.
 
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golfballs said:
Was a cheap shot and an extremely dumb play. Maybe a 15 yarder for unnecessary roughness. But has anyone ever seen a targeting get called for something like that?
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All of those are dumb calls but that call on the Nebraska player was criminal
 
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RiverVol said:
Your comment contradicts itself. You don’t really get why targeting is a penalty.
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I understand why its a penalty & im not contradicting anything. It was a dumb play but if u are going to be stupid do it at 110 mph. At least make it worth it. The whole point of him doing it was to put fear into the QB. Im just saying if u are going to get kicked out anyway go ahead and nail him.
 
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901 Orange said:
Not saying i want Bennett to get hurt but it woulda been a nice trade off to shake him up a little.
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I don't think you understand how CTE works. Again - I understand your gripe with the penalty, but your above statement is a contradictory statement. -- and this kind of penalty is not a "stupid" that should be done at 110mph - or any intensity. THAT is why the "weak" half-butt effort was called as targeting - as it should be.

... and yes, D. Johnson's would've had an impact on the game.
 
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He gave him a head butt...Didnt even knock him down. It should of been a PF...The chop block should of been an ejection. Could ruin someone's career. Head butting a Freshman QB in the SEC should be a rite of passage...
 
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RiverVol said:
It was targeting. It was half-baked targeting, but it was clear and was addressed correctly.

Allowing targeting produces an environment that endangers players lives and cognitive function. Until you’ve sat in a nursing home with a 50 something year old Tennessee and NFL legend... you may not get it.

As heinous as chop blocks are- they are not dangerous on the same level.
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Teammates celebrating routinely hit each harder than that. The rule is good and necessary, IMO. There just needs to be a way to apply some common sense to it in a situation like this.
 
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Mccage said:
I would think when you are about to hit someone with your face its just natural to lower your head. Reflexes are very hard to control. They got him for lowering his head gear.
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Which is Targeting... Got to "learn to keep head up or learn to move to the side rather than try to "KILL" the guy, but just tackle him.
 
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RiverVol said:
I don't think you understand how CTE works. Again - I understand your gripe with the penalty, but your above statement is a contradictory statement. -- and this kind of penalty is not a "stupid" that should be done at 110mph - or any intensity. THAT is why the "weak" half-butt effort was called as targeting - as it should be.

... and yes, D. Johnson's would've had an impact on the game.
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I know exactly how cte works i've taken the concussion certification every year for the last decade. I never said he shouldnt have been penalized i said he should have hit his a$$ harder, what part of that dnt u understand?? I know its a penalty everyone with eyes knows its a penalty. I didnt contradict anything. I said if u are going to be thrown out for targeting go ahead and make the guy feel it. Whats so hard about that to understand??
 
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901 Orange said:
I know exactly how cte works i've taken the concussion certification every year for the last decade. I never said he shouldnt have been penalized i said he should have hit his a$$ harder, what part of that dnt u understand?? I know its a penalty everyone with eyes knows its a penalty. I didnt contradict anything. I said if u are going to be thrown out for targeting go ahead and make the guy feel it. Whats so hard about that to understand??
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Hahaha... yep. my bad. I did not understand. You are right. You grasp the global concept of player protection perfectly. hahahahaaa
 
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I think losing DJ in that game was bigger than most realize. After that, to get pressure from that side, we had to keep bringing a CB on blitzes and occasionally the weak side safety. That seemed to free up the middle more for UGA passing.
 
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RiverVol said:
Hahaha... yep. my bad. I did not understand. You are right. You grasp the global concept of player protection perfectly. hahahahaaa
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U are starting to get on my nerves smh lol. Me wanting DJ to get his money's worth on a hit doesnt have anything to do with me understanding player saftey. Its still freakn football not tennis. U can hit people hard without hurting them or are u too smart to understand that. What do u think a coach means when he says he wants his guy's to play physical?? He aint saying go out and purposely hurt someone. I aint here u say nothing about player saftey when JG was getting assualted but now im wrong for wanting DJ to make his ejection worth it smh. Football is still a gladiator sport idc how safe they try to make it the goal of taking another man's will has & will always be part of the game. If u worried bout getting hurt u are in the wrong sport period. It was a penalty and it should have been. I never argued that. My entire point is to make sure he feels it that doesnt mean kill the guy
 
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It was targeting. What annoyed me though was it looked like a Georgia player should have been hit with a targeting penalty on Brandon Johnson's reception that knocked his helmet off (in real time at least).
 
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SycloneJoe said:
It was definitely a “bone head” play but I hate how that weak hit gets you ejected yet the much more dangerous chop block gets nothing.[/QUOTE]

Yep and Chop block is orchestrated between 2 players. Some of the head to heads are subjective with the O guy slightly lowers head or its a bang bang play hard to pull up. Some end up being taps like DJ's, yes under rules it was called right. Helmets between O & D linemen tap much harder than that on virtually every play. Chop block is basically a choreographed movement to take the knees out, a highly vulnerable area and one of the biggest areas that cause end to players careers.
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