Currie's Letter Demands His Resignation.

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Three things in Currie's written statement are troubling: <please read his letter first>

#1 "A" leading candidate is purposefully deceitful ...
He says GS was "a" leading candidate. No, he was far and away "THE" leading candidate for the job. These two things are almost night and day in reality. Currie wants this to look like GS was just part of an elite coaching group that he was choosing from. This is completely different from the truth. GS was THE guy for quite some time (Bahamas anyone?). He had his guy. Currie was in Ohio doing the deal before the wheels came off. He didn't say this.
John Currie is PURPOSEFULLY deceiving the fanbase.

#2 Sets up a "straw man" concerning
"SanduskySchiano"...
While the vetting issues Currie mentions are certainly of value. He PURPOSEFULLY ignores the giant elephant in the room. What about the sworn under oath statement from Mike McQeary about GS seeing Sandusky raping a child also then remaining neutral about it? THIS IS THE KEY CONCERN. Everyone who cares to know understands this. So does Currie. But instead he goes to the positive vetting results only and uses those for PROOF of due diligence. Currie is simply setting up a straw man argument to tear down in order to appear circumspect. He's not circumspect. That's why riots happened in the streets. Currie is hiding from this reality and is again deceiving the fanbase he writes to.

#3 The Theme is I Know Better than You ...
The entire theme of this letter is "I know better than you". It is not "I made a huge error in judgement". It is not "I brought unimaginable negativity to my university and this program". It is not "I didn't take even the minimum amount of research of the fanbase to find that this was a terrible decision". It is not ”I am getting my marching orders from somewhere besides those who have the interests of our football program as #1". Nope. It's just a smackdown to the uninformed people who pay his exorbitant salary. Worse still is the erroneous logic that says ”these fans are foolish" but I'm going to undo my excellent decision and follow their "foolishness". This is Currie style leadership!

John Currie should resign immediately as Athletic Director of the University of Tennessee, or be fired with cause.
 
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The biggest issue I have with his letter was saying “the” Ohio State with a capital t.

Sounded like a traitor from that point on. Jmo
 
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I'm willing to give him one more shot. Nail this hire like your job depends on it John

Wow, you’re more forgiving than I am. This guy was instrumental in the Fulmer firing, basically handpicked over Blackburn by Haslem, tried to hire Schiano and then condescendingly told us it was our fault that we’re the laughingstock of college football.

Nope, fire his a$$
 
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Wow, you’re then condescendingly told us it was our fault that we’re the laughingstock of college football.

Nope, fire his a$$

This is too much. Where in the HELL does his letter say anything even remotely resembling your statement above?

I am okay with rejecting Schiano by a mile. The backlash against Currie is overblown.

But again...can you quote the exact sentence where he says what you claim above?
 
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This is too much. Where in the HELL does his letter say anything even remotely resembling your statement above?

I am okay with rejecting Schiano by a mile. The backlash against Currie is overblown.

But again...can you quote the exact sentence where he says what you claim above?

Nope, can’t quote because it was in the tone of the entire statement. If you can’t read that statement for what it is then we’ll have to agree to disagree.
 
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Three things in Currie's written statement are troubling: <please read his letter first>

#1 "A" leading candidate is purposefully deceitful ...

You have almost zero basis for saying this. Credible reports in the week leading up to the Schiano hire say that at the very least, Mullen and Campbell were seriously considered. What is your source saying they weren't? I can tell from you statement that it's a hunch and nothing more.

#2 Sets up a "straw man" concerning
"SanduskySchiano"...
Agree on this. He didn't mention the 2016 testimony. A good question is did he know of it?
If he didn't then his vetting was suspect, and if he did his judgment is questionable.


#3 The Theme is I Know Better than You ...
Disagree. The tone is "I made a mistake and now I am going to CMA (Cover My Ass).
His statement is purely defensive. He did overdo it IMO, but it's not "I know better than you" Honestly anyone that thinks that is way too sensitive IMO.

What's more important right now than what happened over the weekend, is what happens in the coming week or weeks. Period, dot.
 
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He backed out on Schiano over fan fallout. That fallout was allegedly due to Schiano being morally "iffy." No way Currie can trot out Kiffin in this circumstance.

It wasn't because he was morally iffy.

He could've snorted blow of the rump of a hooker and that would've been okay.

He could've been in a series of porn video with Jenna Jameson or even obese chicks or midgets and that would've been fine.

He could've pulled a drunk and screwed his secretary behind his wife's back like Petrino and that would've been fine too.

He could've been a known associate of the Gambino family and that would've been okay.

He allegedly enabled child rape that continued for another two decades after he started working for Sandusky and that's what people aren't okay with.
 
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Did Kiffin cover up child rape too? The two aren't comparable.

Low character is low character.

Knowing what we know of Kiffin's character? Yeah, he very well might, if placed in the same circumstances. In fact, I'd go one further: not only would Kiffin probably not report Sandusky, he'd probably try to blackmail the dude for personal gain.

That's how low an opinion I have of Lane's values.
 
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I feel like our AD is Hillary Clinton!

"I am Sorry you Trailer Trash are to Dumb to understand Me!" :banghead2:



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Did Kiffin cover up child rape too? The two aren't comparable.

Better read up on Kiffen's hostesses and "the closer". He will be a huge black eye to UT and our title of laughing stock of the sec will be secured. A perfect ending to this messed up year.
 
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I'm willing to give him one more shot. Nail this hire like your job depends on it John

This is where we, the fan base, are failing. We keep expecting bad Athletic Directors to make good hires, and it just is not going to happen. Until the university hires with competency in mind, the AD will continue to make terrible coaching hires. John Currie is bad at his job. Davenport leaving him in control of this search is the biggest mistake of her career, and will probably see her fired even before Currie is ultimately let go.
 
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I'm willing to give him one more shot. Nail this hire like your job depends on it John

His job does depend on it.

I dont think it helped (Currie) that Schiano's connection to the Sandusky scandal made headlines the same week as the hire. I didnt connect Schiano to Sandusky until within a week of hiring him. I already considered him a second rate coach due to his time at Tampa Bay and Rutgers. (I mean, if Rutgers had shown he was a great coach, then his time at Tampa Bay would have borne that out.)



Tennessee has resources, facilities, good recruiting grounds and a rich history. There is nothing to what any of these media guys say about Tennessee being a "has-been" that can't come back to greatness. Make a good hire and we are just 2-3 years away from playing for the SEC championship. Thats a fact. Tennessee is a major Power 5 school and there is nothing holding us back except for second rate HC hires.
 
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Currie is a yes man. He is a nothing and firing him is justified but does nothing for the problem. I have said this for the last 7 years and been ridiculed, laughed at and mocked. The men who control the program are the high dollar men. Haslem is one and NOW, finally people are starting to listen. They are control freaks and micro-manage everything. Why did all the coaches who interviewed turn down the job? Why did the others turn down the interview? There is an explanation for some but for all of them? Jones was THE only one and he was the worst and I tried to tell all of you and got cussed. Just because you donate 115 mil does not give you total authority. He is not the only one either. Get to the source of the problem. Who is making the decisions for the program???? Its not Currie, he is a front. Besides, Currie was not here for all the other bad decisions. Shooting at Currie does nothing. Fire him, I could care less. You want to fix this mess?? A small committee of knowledgable Vols, Fulmer, Manning, etc..... They do all the interviews, hiring. They are the only ones with experience who know who and what we need. Not the rich alum who control it now. Take away the power, drain the swamp, whatever you want to call it. Appoint Fulmer to be in absolute control with Manning and whoever they decide to help them. Then GET OUT OF THE WAY. This is my University, my program, my football team. All this confusion does not help and only hurts. An online petition to fire Currie is stupid. An online petition to take the power away from Haslem and Company, now your talking !
 
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Three things in Currie's written statement are troubling: <please read his letter first>

#1 "A" leading candidate is purposefully deceitful ...
He says GS was "a" leading candidate. No, he was far and away "THE" leading candidate for the job. These two things are almost night and day in reality. Currie wants this to look like GS was just part of an elite coaching group that he was choosing from. This is completely different from the truth. GS was THE guy for quite some time (Bahamas anyone?). He had his guy. Currie was in Ohio doing the deal before the wheels came off. He didn't say this.
John Currie is PURPOSEFULLY deceiving the fanbase.


#2 Sets up a "straw man" concerning
"SanduskySchiano"...
While the vetting issues Currie mentions are certainly of value. He PURPOSEFULLY ignores the giant elephant in the room. What about the sworn under oath statement from Mike McQeary about GS seeing Sandusky raping a child also then remaining neutral about it? THIS IS THE KEY CONCERN. Everyone who cares to know understands this. So does Currie. But instead he goes to the positive vetting results only and uses those for PROOF of due diligence. Currie is simply setting up a straw man argument to tear down in order to appear circumspect. He's not circumspect. That's why riots happened in the streets. Currie is hiding from this reality and is again deceiving the fanbase he writes to.

#3 The Theme is I Know Better than You ...
The entire theme of this letter is "I know better than you". It is not "I made a huge error in judgement". It is not "I brought unimaginable negativity to my university and this program". It is not "I didn't take even the minimum amount of research of the fanbase to find that this was a terrible decision". It is not ”I am getting my marching orders from somewhere besides those who have the interests of our football program as #1". Nope. It's just a smackdown to the uninformed people who pay his exorbitant salary. Worse still is the erroneous logic that says ”these fans are foolish" but I'm going to undo my excellent decision and follow their "foolishness". This is Currie style leadership!

John Currie should resign immediately as Athletic Director of the University of Tennessee, or be fired with cause.

I find his statement snide and out of touch with this fan base.

I agree with most of your opinion but I do not think UT is "his university". Anyone that would fire Fulmer, not consider Cutcliff or any other non train wreck coach, does not belong to my UT.

I am lucky that I remember some of the golden years of Tennessee football. The days when Pat Head Summit, Majors and Fulmer roamed our sidelines are gone. Those are just memories now, in part because Currie finds more loyalty to haslam than the people of Tennessee. Few people in power care about Tennessee people anymore, including Haslam. Maybe the voters of Tennessee find a way to remove the haslams from the governors office, this will decrease his foothold on Tennessee athletics.


I find it amazing that enough volunteers stood up to stop the hire. Whoever is chosen as our coach, he will not make everyone happy. of your preference.
Fellow Volunteers, once we get a coach, please show the same enthusiasm and unite behind him, regardless of your preference.
(Assuming its not another completely boneheaded haslam hire)
 
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Currie is a yes man. He is a nothing and firing him is justified but does nothing for the problem. I have said this for the last 7 years and been ridiculed, laughed at and mocked. The men who control the program are the high dollar men. Haslem is one and NOW, finally people are starting to listen. They are control freaks and micro-manage everything. Why did all the coaches who interviewed turn down the job? Why did the others turn down the interview? There is an explanation for some but for all of them? Jones was THE only one and he was the worst and I tried to tell all of you and got cussed. Just because you donate 115 mil does not give you total authority. He is not the only one either. Get to the source of the problem. Who is making the decisions for the program???? Its not Currie, he is a front. Besides, Currie was not here for all the other bad decisions. Shooting at Currie does nothing. Fire him, I could care less. You want to fix this mess?? A small committee of knowledgable Vols, Fulmer, Manning, etc..... They do all the interviews, hiring. They are the only ones with experience who know who and what we need. Not the rich alum who control it now. Take away the power, drain the swamp, whatever you want to call it. Appoint Fulmer to be in absolute control with Manning and whoever they decide to help them. Then GET OUT OF THE WAY. This is my University, my program, my football team. All this confusion does not help and only hurts. An online petition to fire Currie is stupid. An online petition to take the power away from Haslem and Company, now your talking !

I agree with you and have known this for a long time.

My question to you and everyone is, did Manning back this GS hire? Is he not part of this "high dollar men"?

I do not want believe that manning would be a part of anything this stupid. However, I get my "I back Pat" newsletter last night and second page has a picture with manning and haslam..... I hate to cannibolize our own but manning should do more or wash his hands.
 
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The biggest issue I have with his letter was saying “the” Ohio State with a capital t.

Sounded like a traitor from that point on. Jmo

That also stood out to me.

Made no sense other than if it came from a Ohio State homer.

That is the university’s actual full name (whether it sounds silly or not is another matter):

The college began with a focus on training students in various agricultural and mechanical disciplines but was developed into a comprehensive university under the direction of then Governor (later, President) Rutherford B. Hayes, and in 1878 the Ohio General Assembly passed a law changing the name to "The Ohio State University".

If someone’s making a statement that’s more formal (or related to something like business where they have to act professionally b/c of the job), I’m not really surprised (or shocked) with using full names.
 
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