Currie: You have to load the gun before you pull the trigger...

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I don't understand the heat Currie is taking at this point.

If Currie does this correctly, then we should already have our future coach before pulling the trigger on the current coach. Suppose we already have an agreement with the future coach (because they are currently unattached) but the coach does not want to jump into this mess midseason. What is the benefit of firing CBJ now as opposed to the conclusion of the regular season?

There is no benefit. Recruits will bail either way, even more so if CBJ is fired.

"Go ahead and fire him, it can't get any worse," you say. Well, yes it can. CBJ is very hands-on the offense. The offense is very bad, but it could be worse. CBJ, perhaps intentionally, has made sure that there is no one below him on the offensive side that can immediately replace him.

If you ditch Jones, who runs the offense? Scott? I believe we've already determined that he's the problem, not the solution. Gillespie? He has his hands full with recruiting and does not have the experience nor does he want OC responsibilities. Canales? North Texas Canales?
No, just no.

So the best course of action for Currie is this:
1. Line up a fantastic hire -> Kelly, Miles, Mullen, Patterson, Gruden, Etc.
2. Keep CBJ until the fantastic hire is ready to take over.
3. Salvage the recruiting class as best we can.
4. Let the new hire consider retaining Gillespie/Shoop/Hoke but in no way hinder him hiring who he thinks he needs on his staff. No handcuffs.

For the above reasons, I am withholding judgment on Currie, and I do not understand why people are so upset with him when it is entirely possible that he is acting prudently. Now if he fails on attracting a fantastic hire or retains CBJ through 2018, by all means, bring out the pitchforks.
 
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I think people believe it could salvage the season but..UT just lost to Kentucky. This season is deader'n'hell..
 
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37620VOL said:
I don't understand the heat Currie is taking at this point.

If Currie does this correctly, then we should already have our future coach before pulling the trigger on the current coach. Suppose we already have an agreement with the future coach (because they are currently unattached) but the coach does not want to jump into this mess midseason. What is the benefit of firing CBJ now as opposed to the conclusion of the regular season?

There is no benefit. Recruits will bail either way, even more so if CBJ is fired.

"Go ahead and fire him, it can't get any worse," you say. Well, yes it can. CBJ is very hands-on the offense. The offense is very bad, but it could be worse. CBJ, perhaps intentionally, has made sure that there is no one below him on the offensive side that can immediately replace him.

If you ditch Jones, who runs the offense? Scott? I believe we've already determined that he's the problem, not the solution. Gillespie? He has his hands full with recruiting and does not have the experience nor does he want OC responsibilities. Canales? North Texas Canales?
No, just no.

So the best course of action for Currie is this:
1. Line up a fantastic hire -> Kelly, Miles, Mullen, Patterson, Gruden, Etc.
2. Keep CBJ until the fantastic hire is ready to take over.
3. Salvage the recruiting class as best we can.
4. Let the new hire consider retaining Gillespie/Shoop/Hoke but in no way hinder him hiring who he thinks he needs on his staff. No handcuffs.

For the above reasons, I am withholding judgment on Currie, and I do not understand why people are so upset with him when it is entirely possible that he is acting prudently. Now if he fails on attracting a fantastic hire or retains CBJ through 2018, by all means, bring out the pitchforks.
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I agree that Currie doesn't need to pull the trigger now, but not with your reasons. A high school coach could call this offense. There is nothing profound here. Canales has worked under more comes systems.
 
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37620VOL said:
I don't understand the heat Currie is taking at this point.

If Currie does this correctly, then we should already have our future coach before pulling the trigger on the current coach. Suppose we already have an agreement with the future coach (because they are currently unattached) but the coach does not want to jump into this mess midseason. What is the benefit of firing CBJ now as opposed to the conclusion of the regular season?

There is no benefit. Recruits will bail either way, even more so if CBJ is fired.

"Go ahead and fire him, it can't get any worse," you say. Well, yes it can. CBJ is very hands-on the offense. The offense is very bad, but it could be worse. CBJ, perhaps intentionally, has made sure that there is no one below him on the offensive side that can immediately replace him.

If you ditch Jones, who runs the offense? Scott? I believe we've already determined that he's the problem, not the solution. Gillespie? He has his hands full with recruiting and does not have the experience nor does he want OC responsibilities. Canales? North Texas Canales?
No, just no.

So the best course of action for Currie is this:
1. Line up a fantastic hire -> Kelly, Miles, Mullen, Patterson, Gruden, Etc.
2. Keep CBJ until the fantastic hire is ready to take over.
3. Salvage the recruiting class as best we can.
4. Let the new hire consider retaining Gillespie/Shoop/Hoke but in no way hinder him hiring who he thinks he needs on his staff. No handcuffs.

For the above reasons, I am withholding judgment on Currie, and I do not understand why people are so upset with him when it is entirely possible that he is acting prudently. Now if he fails on attracting a fantastic hire or retains CBJ through 2018, by all means, bring out the pitchforks.
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Don't know what you are thinking posting something logical on here. Mobs don't THINK, all that is important is that they FEEL. So get on board the outrage train!

Now back to your regularly scheduled posting:

FAHR BUTCH!!! :pepper:
 
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We need help up front
Cade Mays decommited
Jones being here caused it
If you’ve got a ace hire bring him in and the class can be saved
 
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If Currie had been doing his job properly he would have had our next coach lined up one week after he was hired.

The majority of us saw this clown Jones as a dead man walking for 3 years.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
The majority of us saw this clown Jones as a dead man walking for 3 years.
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I was against the Dooley and Jones hires from the beginning, but I always try to give a coach 5 years to put his system in place with his own players.

The only reason I supported the Kiffin hire was the loaded staff that he brought with him.
 
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OP, I don't understand why you can't understand the heat on Mr Currie, also what I don't understand is how you don't understand that Butch needs to be fired now...and, also how you don't understand that Coach Scott or anybody else on the staff can do what is being done now...losing games, losing commits, and losing the fanbase....and, let's not forget the new signing period coming up...in five years Coach Jones has shown, by his own coaching philosophy and game management, he should be fired because he doesn't know squat about coaching in any form and alienates media personnel and runs off kids that somehow do miraculous work at another school..now, do you understand why there is some heat on Mr. Currie...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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Ahhh this must have a lot of the #movement folks angry to hear something ****ing logical come out of someone's mouth or text or over a keyboard but you know what I mean.
 
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Do you really think the offense can be worse? We didn't score a touchdown for a month. How does it get worse than that?

There's no benefit to keeping Jones unless Currie plans on trying to retain him. Which is it's own disaster.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
We need help up front
Cade Mays decommited
Jones being here caused it
If you’ve got a ace hire bring him in and the class can be saved
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He hasn't officially yet.... but his comments regarding Clemson speak volumes.

"I want to win a national championship."
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Do you really think the offense can be worse? We didn't score a touchdown for a month. How does it get worse than that?
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Well, what's different this year to last year? Debord > Scott. So the solution is to prematurely fire CBJ, lose all the recruits and put Scott in charge of the entire offense?

No thanks. As long as CBJ is gone before 2018 and we snag a great replacement, it makes no difference to me if CBJ is fired tomorrow or December.

If I don't seem mad at CBJ, it's because I'm not. I hope he can take a graceful exit. He's just not a good enough football coach, and we need to replace him with someone that is.
 
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since the AD,John Currie has shown he has not got any by refuseing to fire cbj,i for one will not watch any more Ten. football this year and next.anybody else????
 
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OP, I generally agree with you but I see two things.

1. I think the uncertainty hurts us worse than knowing he is gone. It is really head scratching. right now it seems like the AD is toying with us the fans and the coaches, at least from the public eye. I would think you can announce something.

2. if they could pull the move that OSU did with Meyer, bring him in so he can focus on recruiting while we still have another coach working the game day stuff. not sure if that is still allowed or not.
 
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volstuff37641 said:
since the AD,John Currie has shown he has not got any by refuseing to fire cbj,i for one will not watch any more Ten. football this year and next.anybody else????
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if you cant be with ut when they are down and whoever is the coach then do be with them when they get back to winning whoever is the coach
 
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