Currie on 104.5

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feathersax said:
You're joking, right? Listening to Currie evade the guys at 104.5 regarding Phil Fulmer was discomfiting. Don't know the "real" story (like you insiders), but UT's new AD refused to respond to questions. :ermm:
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What answer could he possibly have given?. Every time his name is even mentioned it turns into full on drama.
 
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GAVol said:
What answer could he possibly have given?. Every time his name is even mentioned it turns into full on drama.
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don't disagree. but isn't kind of our fault for hiring a guy that brings on that drama, cause how did anyone not know these questions would be asked given the history?
 
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The thing about Fulmer is, everyone could see the program slipping back in 05, maybe if we made a change then we wouldn't have had to deal with the Kiffen and Dooley eras, then again it might have been worse.

Also it could've been that Currie saw it happening and maybe Hamilton was too intimidated by Fulmer to do anything about it, if Currie wasn't then good, I'd rather have an AD with a backbone than one without one.

And some fans needs to pull an Elsa and just let it go already, it's been over 10 years since Fulmer was fired, and if Fulmer couldn't see that he was causing more harm than good to the program then he was blinded by his own ego.
 
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JFBanicki said:
Currie was brought in to raise funds and stack cash for the school through the AD. We all better pray he never has to hire a new football coach. He will ignore the big name good coaches and go hard for the cheapest "he's done alright at his previous jobs" coach.

Mark my words, all his moves he will make will only be about building the biggest reserve fund and he won't care about us competing for even an East title let alone an SEC or National Title.

7-6 will be fine with him every year as that will allow him to say he's running a winning program.
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He's going to have to convince Big Jim to cut out his children and give every cent he has to UTK because they're losing donors at a huge clip.
 
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MOTOVOL said:
Correct . As bad as I hate to admit it , Peyton and the Haslams were the key players.
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I'm sure you are right, but it is not like Tennessee is unique in this regard (i.e., certain influential boosters pulling the strings). Other schools are just more on the same page about where to go than Tennessee is.
 
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bamawriter said:
I missed the first part, but he hedged like crazy when asked if he'd reached out to Fulmer. The crew spent the next couple of segments criticizing him. Withrow especially laid in.
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Your emotional investment in UT sports is weird to me. You actually took time out of your life to listen to an interview with our AD in the offseason.....just weird.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
They stabbed Fulmer in the back by hiring the architect of his firing.

Who would blame Fulmer if he never had a conversation with the new AD?
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Oh wait, so now HE is the architect of Fulmer's firing? So after the last 9 years of blaming Mike Hamilton, now suddenly Currie is the guy to blame?
 
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jakez4ut said:
reminds me of Auburn back in the day. one guy with his finger on the button. no bueno.
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Difference being that AU is smaller, somewhat isolated, and united in their feeling justified in doing whatever it takes to beat Bama. UTK is too big and too much in the public eye to long operate in that fashion.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Difference being that AU is smaller, somewhat isolated, and united in their feeling justified in doing whatever it takes to beat Bama. UTK is too big and too much in the public eye to long operate in that fashion.
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That's a good point about Auburn. Their hatred of Alabama is an incredible uniting force that not many other schools, including Tennessee, have. It has a way of getting disparate groups of people to agree to something.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Difference being that AU is smaller, somewhat isolated, and united in their feeling justified in doing whatever it takes to beat Bama. UTK is too big and too much in the public eye to long operate in that fashion.
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agreed, and my point exactly. why should we be playing the "keeping up with the jones' " game? it used to be the other way around.
 
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peppervol said:
Haslams, yes, but, please tell the rest of us how you know it was Peyton's call. Please....
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Peyton publicly stated that he signed off on the Currie hire as his choice. It was reported on several media outlets. Do you need more than this?

This whole division in VN is really quite ridiculous. You guys that are all in on The travesty of firing Fulmer after 2 LOSING seasons in 3 years are some of the loudest on replacing Butch after back to back 9 win seasons. I just don't understand how the mind operates with some of you guys.

And for the record, UT should be playing for championships and losing to USCe and Vandy is not getting it done. But hey at least it's not Wyoming and Memphis right?
 
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UT Hill Man said:
They stabbed Fulmer in the back by hiring the architect of his firing.

Who would blame Fulmer if he never had a conversation with the new AD?
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So what? I love Fulmer but please explain how other than being a great football coach, Fulmer has any qualifications that rival those of Currie for the AD job?
 
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If Manning was involved in the decision to hire Currie over Fulmer, then good for him. He didn't let his loyalty and friendship with CPF overrule what was the only good business decision they could make.

I don't have a clue how Currie will turn out but his 8 yrs experience as a Power5 school AD overrides all of CPF qualifications.....sorry
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So what? I love Fulmer but please explain how other than being a great football coach, Fulmer has any qualifications that rival those of Currie for the AD job?
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wmcovol said:
If Manning was involved in the decision to hire Currie over Fulmer, then good for him. He didn't let his loyalty and friendship with CPF overrule what was the only good business decision they could make.

I don't have a clue how Currie will turn out but his 8 yrs experience as a Power5 school AD overrides all of CPF qualifications.....sorry
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for me, it's less about Fulmer as the AD, than it is about how we arrived at Currie. and more importantly, who really made the call.

as important at Peyton may be to UT, he can't write the same check Haslam can, and i think that's what we learned thru this process more than anything else.

so take that however you want.

but hiring him, w/out any inclination or care as to what the reaction would be, or what questions it would bring up, either shows a complete lack of vetting on BD's part, the search committee's part, and the search firm's part, or someone just got who they wanted cause they had the biggest check book.

either way, the "how" is bad.
 
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fade route said:
Your emotional investment in UT sports is weird to me. You actually took time out of your life to listen to an interview with our AD in the offseason.....just weird.
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I listen to the MD180 at my desk every day. Perhaps it's difficult for you to listen to the radio while doing something else, but I don't think it's much of an investment for the vast majority. If you start with walking while chewing gum, I'm sure you can work your way up to listening while carrying on with your day.
 
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jakez4ut said:
for me, it's less about Fulmer as the AD, than it is about how we arrived at Currie. and more importantly, who really made the call.

as important at Peyton may be to UT, he can't write the same check Haslam can, and i think that's what we learned thru this process more than anything else.

so take that however you want.

but hiring him, w/out any inclination or care as to what the reaction would be, or what questions it would bring up, either shows a complete lack of vetting on BD's part, the search committee's part, and the search firm's part, or someone just got who they wanted cause they had the biggest check book.

either way, the "how" is bad.
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IMO:

- From the moment Hart announced he was done (probably even before), a short list of 2 or 3 candidates was known. For high-profile jobs like this, there is no wide-ranging search that needs to be done.
- The hiring of the search firm is almost purely a CYA move.
- They flirted with Fulmer because he wanted the job and they "had to" for PR purposes.
- Ultimately, the decision is made by the people who write checks, with some input from others (like Davenport, Peyton, smaller boosters/donors, other people on the BoT, etc.). Tennessee is in no way unique in this regard; it's just that other schools seem to be more united towards a common goal with less politics than Tennessee is.
 
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