Currie needs to be back channeling on day one.

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No kidding. I would wager that OP has never managed as much as a lemonade stand. In this age, everything gets leaked. OP's method would result in an absolute carousel of coaches at UT, and make it even harder to get a decent coach to even consider a job at UT.

You would lose your wager.
 
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Firing Fulmer was the right decision. Period.

The hiring of Kiffin appeared to be a good one at the outset. But, while it likely wouldn't have mattered, Hamilton should have put a customary buyout in Kiffin's contract to protect UT.

That is a small mistake, however, compared to the horrendous mistake of hiring one Derek Dooley. Was Currie involved in that hire?

No it wasn't. Period. No after seeing what happened after his firing with the benefit of hindsight......it led to one of the worst, if not the worst 5-6 year period in program history.
 
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No it wasn't. Period. No after seeing what happened after his firing with the benefit of hindsight......it led to one of the worst, if not the worst 5-6 year period in program history.

I agree. It was debatable at the time, hindsight says it was the wrong move for sure.

Could we have done worse since 2009 till now had Fulmer stayed as coach? Yes, but not likely.
 
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If I were a coach at UT and I caught wind that the AD had been looking for my replacement behind my back, without any real reason besides "just in case" or to "put the cart before the horse," I'd raise hell. Especially if I didn't have any real reason to think my job was in jeopardy, a la Butch or Barnes.

That is the most ridiculous idea I've read on here, I think.



Edit: And I know many of you think Butch's job is in jeopardy, but it's not. If we lose 5 games this year, then yes. But that hasn't happened, and all of us true Vol fans hope it doesn't.

Tommy Tubberville says hi!
 
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Currie was Hamilton's right hand man, was very much on board with the decision, flew around the state and country meeting with key boosters to gather support for firing Fulmer. According to Doug Mathews, frequently referred to Fulmer as a "fat bastard".

Mathews said Currie referred to Fulmer as a portly fellow that doesn't know his father.
 
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After the debacle that this LV season was, those that care anything about the sport or just about UT's national sports reputation want Holly gone. Some say to give her more time to coach the incoming number one recruiting class.

Here's what I Say:
Not only about Holly but all 4 of our primary interest sports of football, men's B.B., LV B.b., and baseball.

Currie should already being doing heavy research for POSSIBLE replacements of Jones, Barnes, Warlick, & Serrano.
I think we need to do things differently in any future coaching searches. Let's put cart before the horse.
I would love to have Currie know (with as much certainty as is possible) that he has at least 2 or 3 qualified candidates for each position that have given him personal off the record, behind the scenes assurances they want the job if it came open.

By qualified I mean:
An obvious upgrade to the current coach.
Not just going to play us for a raise at current location.
An "under the table" gentlemans agreement on the amount of money, control, contract terms and buyouts, etc.

I'm prepared for incoming criticism of this approach that this "won't work because it's just not done this way and certainly not at UT".
But it has been done with our competitors.
Just look how quickly that Bama got their latest AD.
That was certainly a "done deal" before Battles resignation was announced.
Or, look at it from any businesses that you may have owned, managed, or been a part of.
I know that the GOOD ones that I was a part of always had replacements in mind before they let someone go (unless the person they were firing was just horrendous or did something requiring an immediate dismissal).

So far, I think it could be fairly argued that of the four that only Serrano has grossly underachieved.
Holly has underachieved.
Jones and Barnes both have enuf legitimate injury excuses to still be in the wait and see category.

So, my hope for Currie is that he will publicly say all of the right things in his first year in that he backs all of our current coaches but that everyone is obviously always under evaluation.
Meanwhile, HE (not search firms, boosters, alums or anyone else) works the phones privately and behind the scenes to find out who would have any legitimate interest in filling any potential coaching vacancies at UT.

just my .02.
A retired semi-senile VFL hoping to see a few more titles before being called to the orange carpet on high.

does/did your boss do that to you?
 
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If I were a coach at UT and I caught wind that the AD had been looking for my replacement behind my back, without any real reason besides "just in case" or to "put the cart before the horse," I'd raise hell. Especially if I didn't have any real reason to think my job was in jeopardy, a la Butch or Barnes.

That is the most ridiculous idea I've read on here, I think.



Edit: And I know many of you think Butch's job is in jeopardy, but it's not. If we lose 5 games this year, then yes. But that hasn't happened, and all of us true Vol fans hope it doesn't.

Please stop trying to claim that Butch isn't coaching for his job when he is. Anyone that says differently is in denial.
 
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Currie was present, but that whole situation was driven by Hamilton. And Hamilton was all-in on Kiffin the day he was fired by the Raiders. He had decided to move on from Fulmer almost as soon as the 2008 season started.

Shame Hammy didn't take his million dollar pay off then and leave instead.
 
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Firing Fulmer was the right decision. Period.

The hiring of Kiffin appeared to be a good one at the outset. But, while it likely wouldn't have mattered, Hamilton should have put a customary buyout in Kiffin's contract to protect UT.

That is a small mistake, however, compared to the horrendous mistake of hiring one Derek Dooley. Was Currie involved in that hire?

This. People act as though firing Fulmer was a huge mistake but his time had clearly passed. Had we had a more competent hire other than Dooley nobody would be wishing we never canned Phil. To my knowledge Currie was gone before Stooley was hired.
 
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Currie was present, but that whole situation was driven by Hamilton. And Hamilton was all-in on Kiffin the day he was fired by the Raiders. He had decided to move on from Fulmer almost as soon as the 2008 season started.

Have any head hunters gotten to Hamilton while he has been digging wells? I can only hope so, a bean counter who helped derail our program IMO.
 
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If I were a coach at UT and I caught wind that the AD had been looking for my replacement behind my back, without any real reason besides "just in case" or to "put the cart before the horse," I'd raise hell. Especially if I didn't have any real reason to think my job was in jeopardy, a la Butch or Barnes.

That is the most ridiculous idea I've read on here, I think.



Edit: And I know many of you think Butch's job is in jeopardy, but it's not. If we lose 5 games this year, then yes. But that hasn't happened, and all of us true Vol fans hope it doesn't.


I agree with you, but every A.D has a list of potential replacements. You never know when one of the coaches bolts, retires, what ever the reason is.
 
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