Currie first day on the job...

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So you're upset that Currie wanted to hire Gruden? Color me impressed for him going all in. Didnt work out but **** happens sometimes.


Im glad USC lost. Frank Martin can go back to being irrelevant again.

But please KB, present me with your evidence of Currie "running Martin off." Would like to read it.

There are two sides to the story, competing articles and opinions to be sure. One has to decide which they're gonna give credence to....you obviously know which side I've aligned with, again, given his history at Tennessee and his poor relationship with Bill Snyder.

Two different sources. Here you go.....

First source-

Former President Jon Wefald comments on Currie-Martin situation

Wednesday at 6:04 PM

“Frank should still be at K-State,” Wefald said. “John Currie wanted to hire his own coach, and they didn’t get along. It’s too bad. Frank told me many times that he wanted to coach here until he retired. Indeed, he told me that for a year or two after he left here.
“Now, of course, Frank is a Gamecock and he loves his job completely. But if someone like Tim Weiser, for example, had been the athletic director at K-State or someone like him in 2012 and in the years to come, Frank Martin would still be K-State’s head basketball coach."



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Final Four 2017: Gonzaga-South Carolina is tale of trust, loyalty and one costly mistake
By Bill Reiter 13h ago • 5 min read

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- On Saturday, when South Carolina and Gonzaga face each other in each program’s first Final Four appearance, they will owe a deep and lasting level of gratitude to men behind the scenes who made it possible.
For Gonzaga fans, a good portion of love and respect should be extended to the program’s hidden hand: Mike Roth, Gonzaga’s athletic director, who for 20 deliberate years has built a basketball powerhouse through patience, ingenuity and -- most important -- loyalty.


For South Carolina fans, send some special thoughts and deeply felt thank yous to another, albeit different, hidden hand: That of John Currie.
Don’t know who John Currie is?


He’s the man -- through a lack of loyalty and a catastrophic mistake of arrogance and short-sightedness that could damage Kansas State athletics for a very long time -- most responsible for it being South Carolina here at the Final Four.
Because Frank Martin, the Gamecocks head coach, should have been up at the dais representing Kansas State on Thursday in front of the national media. Or some Thursday like it in the years before now. K-State was the school that gave him his big break, the place he took to an Elite Eight in 2010, the program that he carved with the same will and defensive excellence and unique infusion of his unique personality.
And with all respect to South Carolina, nobody -- nobody -- leaves a program they’ve built the way Martin did at Kansas State for South Carolina.
Unless some pedantic AD like Currie wreaks havoc.

Which is just what happened five years ago, when Currie, at the time Kansas State’s athletic director, did everything in his power to make Martin miserable and force the coach out of Manhattan, Kan. It didn’t matter Martin was one of the few coaches capable of giving that phenomenal fan base the basketball tradition they deserve. Currie got his way, and South Carolina got a miracle maker now two wins from cutting down the nets.


I get it if you don’t give two hoots about Kansas State, its troubles or its missed opportunity. I care because I wrote about that program extensively when I was a newspaper reporter in Kansas City, and I think it deserves better. But more than that, there’s this: In sports we are so quick to go over-the-top with our rage toward referees (especially you, Kentucky fans), toward the players on the floor, and toward the head coaches we want fired if they haven’t brought nearly immediate salvation.

Yet we rarely if ever focus on the administrators -- the, you know, actual decision makers -- who may not be on TV but control the fates of the athletic departments they lead.

Currie’s brazen mismanagement of that athletic department and self-interested decision he was more important than his basketball coach was so obvious that, when it happened, I wrote a column that reads like a roadmap of what was to come. Not because I was some far-seeing seer. Because any person on Earth -- except John Currie -- should have known the score.


And while that disaster was unfolding -- or, from South Carolina’s perspective, a gift was being given -- Gonzaga was quietly and successfully building the anti-Currie approach to turning a program into a powerhouse: Through trust, loyalty and an understanding that you build greatness not through the shiny things but thorough the reliable ones.
By knowing how good you have it when it’s right in front of your face.
Mike Roth, Gonzaga’s AD, has been in that position since 1997. A year later, in 1998, the Zags made an improbable run to the Elite Eight, the program’s first. When Dan Monson, who was with the program for 11 years, left as head coach a short time later, Roth did what Currie couldn’t: He had the guts and vision to give the job to a supposed no-name assistant coach.
That guy? Mark Few, who turned the Zags from a nothing-school to a new-age blue blood.

The assistant coach Currie passed over after he forced out Martin? Brad Underwood, now the coach at Illinois.
It’s not the shiny things. It’s the reliable ones. Roth got it. Currie just got it all wrong.
So Few was installed and Roth and Gonzaga tripled-down on their belief and loyalty in a coach many thought would be another anonymous mid-major coach. They changed the team’s logo to a fierce bulldog, believing young recruits would prefer it. They changed the school’s colors to a darker, cooler blue. They started scheduling difficult opponents most mid-majors shied away from. They paid their own money -- rather than the other way around -- to get on national television.
Loyalty. Belief. Patience. Investment. And an allure to the solid things around you rather than the shiny things across the way, where the grass is greener.

Two cases in point here.
For Gonzaga, and Roth: Tommy Lloyd is the new Few, the coach-in-waiting who’s been at the school since just after that Elite Eight run, starting as an unpaid part of the staff. He’s a walking reminder of what this program is about, and that how the Zags got here is still the very DNA of where they’re going.
For Kansas State, unfortunately, it’s this: John Currie left recently to be the AD at Tennessee -- but not until after he’d forced out Martin and, just us unacceptable, maintained a poisoned relationship with football coach Bill Snyder, according to multiple sources. Snyder just happens to be the man who built that program from scratch and whose name is literally on the stadium there.
Loyalty, competence and some perspective matter.

Roth had it, and that means Gonzaga is in the Final Four.
Currie didn’t, and that means South Carolina is here, too.
Names like Roth and Currie aren’t sexy or shiny or often held accountable one way or the other. But they matter. They shape the programs that thrive, and those that will never be the same.
Congrats, Gonzaga.

Good luck, Tennessee.
 
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USCe...it's a basketball school now.

Certainly more so than UT...though if we ever get our act together, we could be. The base is there...facilities and fan base. AD has his hands full. We are either mediocre or stink in every single sport...that I am aware. You wonder how much more mediocrity and mismanagement our fan base can take before discretionary dollars we spend starts to go away. Go Vols?
 
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And you need to educate yourself and realize there's two sides to each story.....and given Currie's poor history and reputation as UT's Associste AD and his difficulties in getting along with the two very successful coaches of his money programs at KState, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt imo.

Let me guess, you called in to local radio claiming you'll never give another dime to the university? Heaven forbid we lose your yearly 8 bucks spent on Petros at one game a year. Give me a break dude.

If you have anyone to thank, look no further than Phil. He is just as conniving as he was in '92 and it cost both him and Blackburn the job.
 
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Let me guess, you called in to local radio claiming you'll never give another dime to the university? Heaven forbid we lose your yearly 8 bucks spent on Petros at one game a year. Give me a break dude.

If you have anyone to thank, look no further than Phil. He is just as conniving as he was in '92 and it cost both him and Blackburn the job.

You guessed wrong. Have no idea where you're coming from, dude. You're a Majors guy, a Fulmer hater, we got it. I don't like the Currie hire, believe it was a bad one and was done for the wrong reasons, that's it.
 
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Great hire, ain't that right Frank?

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His coaching late in the game last night cost USC any chance of winning that game. Poor decision to not shoot a three earlier in the clock and not trying to make the second foul shot.NC had all that height in to rebound and SC had no chance of getting the rebound. NC got three offensive rebounds because SC’s rebounders could not screen any NC player away from the boards. nHe continued to have his guards go against their bigs and the refs were not calling fouls for most of the second half. This resulted in turn overs or easy rebounds for NC.

IMO, Barns is a much better coach and has set a base on which he can build and recruit better players. I look forward to the next 2-3 years of Tennessee basketball.
 
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His coaching late in the game last night cost USC any chance of winning that game. Poor decision to not shoot a three earlier in the clock and not trying to make the second foul shot.NC had all that height in to rebound and SC had no chance of getting the rebound. NC got three offensive rebounds because SC’s rebounders could not screen any NC player away from the boards. nHe continued to have his guards go against their bigs and the refs were not calling fouls for most of the second half. This resulted in turn overs or easy rebounds for NC.

IMO, Barns is a much better coach and has set a base on which he can build and recruit better players. I look forward to the next 2-3 years of Tennessee basketball.

On wow - he lost - could have predicted this. Every time a lot of Vol fans get behind a coach with the sole purpose of making someone at UT look bad - the losing for that team starts.
 
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A new SDS article has Currie voicing support for Butch Jones and saying he's on the "right trajectory." Also went on to say that as a program you have to look and see if you're getting better each and every day and he thinks we are. Obviously I did not expect him to say anything negative, but I wish he'd be a little more blunt on wanting to win and the expectations at Tennessee.

Another quote that made me scratch my head was Malik Foreman after the pro day. He said he helped get Tennessee back to where it should be, now we're better off, but where we are at right now is not where we should be as a program. But I know what he was implying and I appreciate him giving his all for Tennessee. I just hope the players are still eager and determined to do better and truly get this program to where it belongs.
 
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A new SDS article has Currie voicing support for Butch Jones and saying he's on the "right trajectory." Also went on to say that as a program you have to look and see if you're getting better each and every day and he thinks we are. Obviously I did not expect him to say anything negative, but I wish he'd be a little more blunt on wanting to win and the expectations at Tennessee.

Currie recognizes that the team is moving in the right direction.

That is why some on here would never been good ADs - they would fire and criticize at will and the only thing that would be consistent would be the inconsistency from year to year.
 
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Currie recognizes that the team is moving in the right direction.

That is why some on here would never been good ADs - they would fire and criticize at will and the only thing that would be consistent would be the inconsistency from year to year.

some would say that's where we are right now anyway.
 
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Mathews show this morning focused on this hire, how it happened, the players in the background, the committee members, etc. Everything KB stated earlier regarding Currie's prior time here was validated by Mathews. It's really disheartening to hear how UTK eats their own which they did in this case. And as usual, Currie was not the preferred hire. The North Carolina guy was until he backed out at the last minute.

I would like to understand how Currie got the backing of "Big Jim". Is it as simple as BJ didn't like Fulmer because of how he came into the HC position?

Probably never know but, hope this sit on your hands administration is just as quick to pull the trigger on chancellor and AD hires as everyone else is on HC hires.
Hopefully, for the betterment of UTK athletic programs, Currie will be successful. But I also hope he is on a short leash.
 
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His coaching late in the game last night cost USC any chance of winning that game. Poor decision to not shoot a three earlier in the clock and not trying to make the second foul shot.NC had all that height in to rebound and SC had no chance of getting the rebound. NC got three offensive rebounds because SC’s rebounders could not screen any NC player away from the boards. nHe continued to have his guards go against their bigs and the refs were not calling fouls for most of the second half. This resulted in turn overs or easy rebounds for NC.

IMO, Barns is a much better coach and has set a base on which he can build and recruit better players. I look forward to the next 2-3 years of Tennessee basketball.

Sorry, but this is ridiculous. The fact that he lead South Carolina to final 4 is a monumental feat on it's own. Not to mention, they were very close to knocking off arguably the most dominant team in the league right now(Though I still believe UNC will win it all). Martin is a hell of a coach.
 
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