Cuonzo Martin is a badass

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darkgable said:
Picked to finish last his first season yet finished third. Lost Maymon his second and reached 20 wins. His third makes a run and reaches the sixteen. Now schools want him because they see the progression and growth of his teams. Sounds to me like the only ones mental are you and that 37,000 taking credit for victory.
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Some of us don't want Martin or Pearl. A few weeks ago you couldn't pay someone to support Martin...rofl fantastic
 
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volholio said:
coach who coached well the last three years. Those wanting him to leave are crazy.

Revolutions usually fail. UT Football is a good example of that.
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Replacing Fulmer was a big deal. This isn't Bobby Knight or Coach K.
 
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terrypedigo said:
30,000 people 4 weeks ago wanted him gone, they might get what they wont.
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Yep it is what it is. I signed up. I would only be happy if BP told Aubie he changed his mind :dance: if not Martin can stay. From what I see recruiting is questionable for 2014
 
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Not to be crude, but... your definition of "bad ass" is apparently my definition of "sucks ass".

He's a nice a guy though... imagine if you were falsely accused of a crime and chose a lawyer who isn't very good at their job because they're nice as opposed to a lawyer who is cut throat and is actually good at their job. Prison rape is almost as appealing as watching Cuonzo's style of basketball.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
Well, let's see:

Year 1: Took a team with very little talent that was predicted to finish next to last in the SEC and finished 2nd.

Year 2: Admittedly, an average season. His worst here.

Year 3: Sweet 16 birth. One block/charge call away from Elite 8 appearance.

Seems like swell job to me.
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Went from well to swell in just afew posts...Stokes doesn't get called for a charge...we're getting up to EPIC :)
 
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All the petition signing, naysayers have been boasting that our team's sudden success was a direct result of the petition.

Well, ok, so what if it was? If you were rational, you'd know then that CCM has figured out what it takes to win. He's not going to forget. You morons.
 
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thebjd said:
Replacing Fulmer was a big deal. This isn't Bobby Knight or Coach K.
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No, he has outperformed Coach K during his first three years here. Coach K went 17-13, 10-17, 11-17 his first three years at Duke. How would you know if you were trying to tank a future Coach K? The guy is in his 6th year coaching overall and is still learning his craft. Recent events make me believe he is getting better at it. But hey, let's all go for that instant success, since it tends to last sooooo long. And, yeah we just fell backward into all that late season success... right.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Some of us don't want Martin or Pearl. A few weeks ago you couldn't pay someone to support Martin...rofl fantastic
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That's precisely why it's so Badass! A month ago people said he couldn't win out...they said he couldn't win enough SEC tourney games...said he wouldn't make it out of the first round and he just rolled onto the Sweet 16.

But it doesn't stop there. It wasn't just some disgruntled fans that didn't think he could do it. It was the AD and the boosters too.

And now who is sitting there with all the leverage, shoving it up their collective you know what?

But it gets even more badass...he might get a job at a school that only Duke out spends on basketball...a school that spends more than twice what UT does...admit it...That's pretty badass.

On top of all that, he never berated anyone, didn't have to bail a player out of jail, never threw a player under the bus, doesn't appear he broke any rules, did it his way...For me, that's impressive in this day and age...for some it's not enough, it was all luck...whatever...Wish him and his family the very best if he indeed takes another job.
 
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If CCM is entertaining other jobs on the basis of the "fan-base", then maybe he should check out all of the local media reaction today.
 
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DownTheField said:
All the petition signing, naysayers have been boasting that our team's sudden success was a direct result of the petition.

Well, ok, so what if it was? If you were rational, you'd know then that CCM has figured out what it takes to win. He's not going to forget. You morons.
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So what you are saying is that it took Martin 3 seasons and then into the post season to figure out how to win? That would be a little more moronic than the people you are pinning that name to. If it took a petition to light a fire under this team's ass to get them to play then that is either very poor motivation on the part of the coaches or a bunch of players that didn't give much of a crap in the first place which would once again be on the coaching staff as they recruited them. Is that rational enough for you? Now, if Martin is back next year I hope he wins every game but if he wants to scurry off to Marquette or wherever I'd be fine with that to, it won't change me pulling for the Vols every game either way.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
Well, let's see:

Year 1: Took a team with very little talent that was predicted to finish next to last in the SEC and finished 2nd.

Year 2: Admittedly, an average season. His worst here.

Year 3: Sweet 16 birth. One block/charge call away from Elite 8 appearance.

Seems like swell job to me.
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Finishing second in the SEC is like bragging about coming in second at the Special Olympics.
 
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DownTheField said:
I think that the many naysayers have valid points. I wish they would, however, temper their criticism by the enormous potential CCM has– this having been only his 6th year as a HC.
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I felt the same way about Derek Dooley. He too was only in his 6th year as a HC. And he almost beat a great LSU team and almost won a bowl game...
 
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bamacheats said:
Finishing second in the SEC is like bragging about coming in second at the Special Olympics.
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Yeah, that makes perfect sense considering one of those programs we finished ahead is joining the SEC Champion in this year's Final Four.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
You are mental if you call what he's done the past three years "well".
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Lol, I was gonna say the exact samething.. man if that's what he calls well, what the heck did he call what bruce did, and what would he call what duke, uconn, and Michigan st, does every year..
 
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vol66 said:
That's precisely why it's so Badass! A month ago people said he couldn't win out...they said he couldn't win enough SEC tourney games...said he wouldn't make it out of the first round and he just rolled onto the Sweet 16.

But it doesn't stop there. It wasn't just some disgruntled fans that didn't think he could do it. It was the AD and the boosters too.

And now who is sitting there with all the leverage, shoving it up their collective you know what?

But it gets even more badass...he might get a job at a school that only Duke out spends on basketball...a school that spends more than twice what UT does...admit it...That's pretty badass.

On top of all that, he never berated anyone, didn't have to bail a player out of jail, never threw a player under the bus, doesn't appear he broke any rules, did it his way...For me, that's impressive in this day and age...for some it's not enough, it was all luck...whatever...Wish him and his family the very best if he indeed takes another job.
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They only spend so much on basketball because that's all they have. Not saying Marquette is any less of a program but the ceiling is much higher here. Ill agree its impressive that Tennessee went on that run but what happens if the bubble isn't soft? Likely the same results as the previous two years. Still, that's not Martins fault and he did well the last few weeks but maybe quick decisions on so little is why ADs like Alabama's kick themselves.
 
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nunshalpass said:
No, he has outperformed Coach K during his first three years here. Coach K went 17-13, 10-17, 11-17 his first three years at Duke. How would you know if you were trying to tank a future Coach K? The guy is in his 6th year coaching overall and is still learning his craft. Recent events make me believe he is getting better at it. But hey, let's all go for that instant success, since it tends to last sooooo long. And, yeah we just fell backward into all that late season success... right.
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Great post. Coaches continue to learn and improve their craft year after year, just as a player would. In terms of college coaching careers, 6 years is still very young.
 
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AZVOLSFAN said:
I felt the same way about Derek Dooley. He too was only in his 6th year as a HC. And he almost beat a great LSU team and almost won a bowl game...
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Derek Dooley never beat a ranked team; much less made any noise in any legitimate postseason bowl. Try again.
 
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D.C. Vol said:
Yeah, that makes perfect sense considering one of those programs we finished ahead is joining the SEC Champion in this year's Final Four.
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Valid argument if both of those teams aren't the only conference powerhouses with multiple championships. Kentucky took a L in the NIT as well (not comparing the two because that's not fair but it means nothing unless our program consistently finishes above them)
 
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I-bleed-orange said:
Great post. Coaches continue to learn and improve their craft year after year, just as a player would. In terms of college coaching careers, 6 years is still very young.
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My point exactly. Martin has it in him to be a great coach but needs time and Tennessee shouldn't pay him over 1.5 to learn.
 
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