Crowded depth chart at QB?

#26
#26
IMO, it would be good to see one of our QBs have such a great season that Worley WOULD get a little antsy about his verbal. Hopefully, one with 4(5) years of eligibility.
 
#27
#27
Right now, it's hard to judge recruiting by Dooley and Co. But by mid-August, I want to see some big-time names.
 
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TylerD said:
From the experience we have had with QB's not developing.. I will take as many as we can get with the hopes that one of them comes through.
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Issues with player development is a relatively new phenomena for UT. From '94 on, we had great success in QB development with Manning, Martin, Clausen, and Ainge. QB deveopment problems didn't show up until 2008 - with the exception of B/U QB's Rick Clausen and Nick Stephens. The issue with those two guys was talent. Chaney's rep is on the line if he can't develop an SEC caliber QB from the current and projected roster.

Most of us are a little antsy on the QB situation. Ainge was put in too early and suffered injuires in his FR year [2004], followed by other injuries in 2005 and 2007. Having said that, I still think we end up taking one a year from here on out. You can still RS Worley if Nance can get up to speed on 3rd string and try to pull a highly rated passer in the next year or two.
 
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Give 'em Six said:
Issues with player development is a relatively new phenomena for UT. From '94 on, we had great success in QB development with Manning, Martin, Clausen, and Ainge. QB deveopment problems didn't show up until 2008 - with the exception of B/U QB's Rick Clausen and Nick Stephens. The issue with those two guys was talent. Chaney's rep is on the line if he can't develop an SEC caliber QB from the current and projected roster.

Most of us are a little antsy on the QB situation. Ainge was put in too early and suffered injuires in his FR year [2004], followed by other injuries in 2005 and 2007. Having said that, I still think we end up taking one a year from here on out. You can still RS Worley if Nance can get up to speed on 3rd string and try to pull a highly rated passer in the next year or two.
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Drew Brees may disagree with you on this point.

As for Worley, it's nice to see a kid that isn't afraid of competion.
 
#31
#31
All three will not still be here in three years. QB's want to play, and when they realise they will not, they transfer. Get as many as possible and play the best one.
 
#32
#32
We will recruit a QB every year, that's how it's going to work. If people are scared by a depth chart, they shouldn't even be playing competitive sports.
 
#33
#33
This is not in any way a knock on our boys currently on the roster, but if Worley can't beat out Simms and Nance, it will sort itself out
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Which is to say, I'd put money on Tyler Bray being our QB by November
 
#34
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98utvols said:
All three will not still be here in three years. QB's want to play, and when they realise they will not, they transfer. Get as many as possible and play the best one.
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i agree, take as many as you can and let natural selection take care of the rest
 
#35
#35
Whats wrong with crowded? Does that stop USC from taking QBs every year.....NO Competition is important to any position, you're gonna try harder if there's someone who can take the starting spot away from you
 
#36
#36
He said he does not have a problem to redshirt a year. Regardless if Bray is the starter or not, he could have 2 years to play after Bray is gone.
 
#38
#38
lylsmorr said:
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Oh that Hooker. He's something. We have Bray and a kid whose bad attitude got him tossed from Louisville who we took in desperation. I'd say it may be crowded but there is plenty of shuffle room
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by your post,you post more then you read.FYI,he was not tossed out of Louisville,also he does not have a bad attitude.you might want to "READ" up on somebody before you make a stupid remarke like that.:hi:
 
#39
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PayingUTKTuition said:
He said he does not have a problem to redshirt a year. Regardless if Bray is the starter or not, he could have 2 years to play after Bray is gone.
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Really good point here. I don't think Worley is too worried about Nance. Simms will be gone by the time Worley finishes his redshirt year and even if Bray wins the starting job, Worley will have his RS Jr and RS Sr. year to be the starter.
 
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Freak said:
I know what he means. I guess, by comparison, I just don't consider that a crowded depth chart. Maybe it's just me.
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I don't either, after this season we'll have four QB's on the roster. I consider this normal.
 
#43
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zjcvols said:
Right now, it's hard to judge recruiting by Dooley and Co. But by mid-August, I want to see some big-time names.
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Dont hold your breath. I doubt much will change by then. I don't think too many top rated recruits are going to jump on board a program in our current state before we even play a game.
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#44
#44
Nance was brought here for two reasons

1) Da'Rick

2) Depth

I'll be surprised if he ever starts a game for UT.
 
#45
#45
Worley didn't even blink when he committed (Didn't blink? He's been having Vol fans twisting in the wind the last 3 months. Why is Hooker making it aout to be that this guy just suddenly pulled the trigger on the Vols???) to Tennessee on Friday, despite freshman quarterbacks Tyler Bray and Nash Nance already on the roster.

"Not too much," the 6-foot-4, 197-pounder from Northwestern High School in Rock Hill, S.C., said when asked if a crowded depth chart affected his decision. (Pure foolishness...) "I know anywhere I go there's going to be competition. I didn't really think about it."
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:crazy:
 
#47
#47
Simms will likely be the starter for the next two years barring injury or Bray really gaining bulk. Bray really looks to be the real deal if he can get his weight and strength up.

Bray will probably play this fall as Simms' back up. If Simms has a lackluster year then Bray could overtake him next spring.

Nance will RS this year and I suspect Worley will next fall. These two plus the '12 and '13 commits will battle it out when Bray is gone.

This is the most likely scenario IMO.
 
#48
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Give 'em Six said:
Not sure what your point is since it doesn't relate to anything I said in the post.
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The point was and is that I don't think that you need to worry about Chaney's ability to develop either Bray or Worley into an SEC caliber QB. He had a big hand in developing Drew Brees when he was at Purdue.
 
#49
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sjt18 said:
Simms will likely be the starter for the next two years barring injury or Bray really gaining bulk. Bray really looks to be the real deal if he can get his weight and strength up.

Bray will probably play this fall as Simms' back up. If Simms has a lackluster year then Bray could overtake him next spring.

Nance will RS this year and I suspect Worley will next fall. These two plus the '12 and '13 commits will battle it out when Bray is gone.

This is the most likely scenario IMO.
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I hope not, he hasn't shown us anything since he's been here. I guess he could be like Crompton last year and the light finally comes on, but that doesn't happen very often at least not at the QB position.

I do think that Simms will start the season, but I don't think this staff is going to stay with him throwing 2 or 3 picks a game against the harder competion.
 
#50
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utkell65 said:
The point was and is that I don't think that you need to worry about Chaney's ability to develop either Bray or Worley into an SEC caliber QB. He had a big hand in developing Drew Brees when he was at Purdue.
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Where in my post or in any other posts do you get the impression that I am worried about QB development under Chaney?

I simply responded to a poster that referenced "problems with QB development at UT" as justification for taking 2 QBs in this year's class. My response was to detail the overwhelming success that UT has had with QB development since 1994 with the exception of the QB issues since 2008 with Crompton and Stevens and a few backup QB during this period. I am on record as saying we are one and done in recruiting at the QB position for this year. Ditto my support for Chaney.

My point was that Chaney's cred is on the line if he can't develop a QB out of the 4 QBs currently on the roster [Lamaison, Nance, Sims, and Bray] and the projected addition of a 5th QB [Worley]. Implied in that is the fact that all 5 of these QBs will have been recruited under Chaney's reign as OC.

I wasn't the one doing the handwringing. It was the poster that I responded to.

Note: Darren Hinshaw is the QB coach.
 
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