Crossroads for Crompton....

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I want to see how Crompton reacts from a bad game going into Florida. Will he crumble mentally like last year after a loss or will he toss the UCLA game out of his head and play with some fire and focus??

This will likely be the defining game for him at UT. His window for leaving a positive mark on the program is running out of time and he could very well be benched with another poor performance for good.

I will be rooting for him Saturday like I always do and be praying for a miracle...
 
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This is yet another defining game in a list of his defining games. I hope he does well, but not sure how many cross roads he has in him.
 
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how can you even ask this question did you just step out of an ice cave?
 
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IF we assume UF's D-line is better than UCLA's and if, we assume their 2nd and 3rd tiers are also superior, is it safe to assume JC will look even worse this Saturday?

The only way I see him not throwing at least 3 picks in the first half is if he reverts back to target practice with the band and/or throwing the scuds comparable to the one to end the game this past Saturday.

Or if Kiffin benches him after the first INT...
 
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Sadly, I think we are back to square one with him.

He's already messed up big this season, as he did last season, and that depression/lack of confidence/whatever carried the entire season. The UCLA game will be in his head all season, especially if the Florida game goes bad.

He's had every chance in the world to prove to everyone that he can be the man. He always ends up folding like a lawn chair under pressure.

Ive sided with him this whole time.. but I will admit, my favorite Crompton moment will be the day he graduates. Same with Tebow.
 
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If Crompdaddy blows this chance at redemption... It's pretty safe to say that barring any injuries at QB, he'll never see the field again dressed in Orange & White. I know that Kiffin said that he isn't keen on the idea of pulling QB's because it messes with their confidence. But if Crompdaddy doesn't perform, it's going to be Stevens in the rest of the way.
 
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IMO, his crossroads came Saturday when he was playing in front of his home crowd and he folded like origami whe faced with adversity...I'm going to support whoever is playing QB for my beloved Vols but Crompton sulking around on the sideline like he lost his best friend after INT #2 and then had to be forced to get off the bench and try to get motivated and motivate the Offense. He didn't seem to care....JMO
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
IMO, his crossroads came Saturday when he was playing in front of his home crowd and he folded like origami whe faced with adversity...I'm going to support whoever is playing QB for my beloved Vols but Crompton sulking around on the sideline like he lost his best friend after INT #2 and then had to be forced to get off the bench and try to get motivated and motivate the Offense. He didn't seem to care....JMO
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Yeah, it was obvious a coach got in his grill and told him he better stop sulking and start acting like a leader...


I am pulling for the kid and I feel sorry for him, but I am not holding my breath.
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
IMO, his crossroads came Saturday when he was playing in front of his home crowd and he folded like origami whe faced with adversity...I'm going to support whoever is playing QB for my beloved Vols but Crompton sulking around on the sideline like he lost his best friend after INT #2 and then had to be forced to get off the bench and try to get motivated and motivate the Offense. He didn't seem to care....JMO
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when did you see this? i was at a cookout and really only watched the last half instensivly. if this is true i would be done with him. stephens might not practice as well as crompton or maybe not even have the talent crompton has but he does have fire. and to me and most people who love football and follow it closly know that fire in your belly means more than physical talent. if you cant be focused and be in the game in your mind then your body wont follow suit.....:banghead2:
 
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BloodRUNZOrange said:
when did you see this? i was at a cookout and really only watched the last half instensivly. if this is true i would be done with him. stephens might not practice as well as crompton or maybe not even have the talent crompton has but he does have fire. and to me and most people who love football and follow it closly know that fire in your belly means more than physical talent. if you cant be focused and be in the game in your mind then your body wont follow suit.....:banghead2:
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The ESPN cameras showed him on the sideline after the 2nd INT sitting around by himself not talking to anyone, then they show him after 3rd one doing the same thing, then the announcers if I believe I heard correctly said the coaches had to tell him to get up and rally the troops...I understand being dejcected after a bad play or something but speaking from a personal if I mess up I want to go out and work and fix what I'm doing wrong, I just didnt' see that in Jon Saturday...Not to say he doesn't have that in him but if he did he didn't show it Saturday
 
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Quite frankly, I think Crompton's mental problems boil down to the fact that he's trying too hard... When he lays an egg, he tries harder to make up for it and then he starts getting tunnel vision, which leads to another egg. ...kinda like baseball pitchers when they start aiming the ball instead of just relaxing and throwing.

Aside from the fact that WKU is not UCLA or UF, maybe Crompton's INT at WKU didn't affect him so much because it came as a result of a tipped pass. (or maybe it was because he just wasn't nervous against WKU). In any case, I suspect it's easier to disregard a tipped-pass-INT as "not my fault" in his mind, and so it's easier to stay relaxed and bounce back from that. But when you get to UCLA and you start throwing INTs right into the hands of the DBs, well... that's not quite the same thing.

In my opinion, Crompton is too easily frazzled when he throws a "bad" INT (i.e., not a "fluke" INT), and when that happens, it's virtually impossible for him to come back from that (history seems to indicate that anyway).

One INT against UF and it'll probably be worth it to put Stephens in... to have a *slightly* better chance for that one game. But... if UF is a no-win game in any case, and if Crompton is still the consensus choice as starter (for the season), then what real good does it do to put in Stephens?

It would seem better to just let Crompton stay in there and force feed him...
He's talked to everybody in the world to "fix his mental" and it's obviously not done the trick. Crompton is truly the only person who can fix Crompton. He has to learn how to deal with the pressure and come back after laying an egg. Putting Stephens in is not going to fix that.

Next year, assuming he wins the job, Stephens will be ok, but for some reason, I just don't think naming him the starter for the rest of this season is necessarily going to make him any better next year.

**IF** that's true, then really, it doesn't make much sense to me to put in Stephens right now.

If this coaching staff truly thought Crompton was a bust, they'd bench him and there wouldn't be any question about it. As it is, they/we obviously NEED Crompton to get himself fixed in the head.
 
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tango said:
Quite frankly, I think Crompton's mental problems boil down to the fact that he's trying too hard... When he lays an egg, he tries harder to make up for it and then he starts getting tunnel vision, which leads to another egg. ...kinda like baseball pitchers when they start aiming the ball instead of just relaxing and throwing.

Aside from the fact that WKU is not UCLA or UF, maybe Crompton's INT at WKU didn't affect him so much because it came as a result of a tipped pass. (or maybe it was because he just wasn't nervous against WKU). In any case, I suspect it's easier to disregard a tipped-pass-INT as "not my fault" in his mind, and so it's easier to stay relaxed and bounce back from that. But when you get to UCLA and you start throwing INTs right into the hands of the DBs, well... that's not quite the same thing.

In my opinion, Crompton is too easily frazzled when he throws a "bad" INT (i.e., not a "fluke" INT), and when that happens, it's virtually impossible for him to come back from that (history seems to indicate that anyway).

One INT against UF and it'll probably be worth it to put Stephens in... to have a *slightly* better chance for that one game. But... if UF is a no-win game in any case, and if Crompton is still the consensus choice as starter (for the season), then what real good does it do to put in Stephens?

It would seem better to just let Crompton stay in there and force feed him...
He's talked to everybody in the world to "fix his mental" and it's obviously not done the trick. Crompton is truly the only person who can fix Crompton. He has to learn how to deal with the pressure and come back after laying an egg. Putting Stephens in is not going to fix that.
Next year, assuming he wins the job, Stephens will be ok, but for some reason, I just don't think naming him the starter for the rest of this season is necessarily going to make him any better next year.

**IF** that's true, then really, it doesn't make much sense to me to put in Stephens right now.

If this coaching staff truly thought Crompton was a bust, they'd bench him and there wouldn't be any question about it. As it is, they/we obviously NEED Crompton to get himself fixed in the head.
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Agreed 100% with the bolded part. He tries to do way too much, all he has to do is learn how to manage the game and not make any costly mistakes...An INT or occasional FUMBLE is to be expected but he tries way too hard to make something happen when nothing is there
 
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tango said:
Quite frankly, I think Crompton's mental problems boil down to the fact that he's trying too hard... When he lays an egg, he tries harder to make up for it and then he starts getting tunnel vision, which leads to another egg. ...kinda like baseball pitchers when they start aiming the ball instead of just relaxing and throwing.

Aside from the fact that WKU is not UCLA or UF, maybe Crompton's INT at WKU didn't affect him so much because it came as a result of a tipped pass. (or maybe it was because he just wasn't nervous against WKU). In any case, I suspect it's easier to disregard a tipped-pass-INT as "not my fault" in his mind, and so it's easier to stay relaxed and bounce back from that. But when you get to UCLA and you start throwing INTs right into the hands of the DBs, well... that's not quite the same thing.

In my opinion, Crompton is too easily frazzled when he throws a "bad" INT (i.e., not a "fluke" INT), and when that happens, it's virtually impossible for him to come back from that (history seems to indicate that anyway).

One INT against UF and it'll probably be worth it to put Stephens in... to have a *slightly* better chance for that one game. But... if UF is a no-win game in any case, and if Crompton is still the consensus choice as starter (for the season), then what real good does it do to put in Stephens?

It would seem better to just let Crompton stay in there and force feed him...
He's talked to everybody in the world to "fix his mental" and it's obviously not done the trick. Crompton is truly the only person who can fix Crompton. He has to learn how to deal with the pressure and come back after laying an egg. Putting Stephens in is not going to fix that.

Next year, assuming he wins the job, Stephens will be ok, but for some reason, I just don't think naming him the starter for the rest of this season is necessarily going to make him any better next year.

**IF** that's true, then really, it doesn't make much sense to me to put in Stephens right now.

If this coaching staff truly thought Crompton was a bust, they'd bench him and there wouldn't be any question about it. As it is, they/we obviously NEED Crompton to get himself fixed in the head.
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This makes more sense than anything I've read on here in a week.
 
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I think we all know the score now, JC is simply not a game time player. It is that simple. He may look good in practice but he freezes up when it is the real deal. I agree with a previous post that wrote that he tries "too hard". He doesn't look like he is having any fun out there. No matter who the coach is we are going to lose games pretty much because of the ridiculously poor QB play. There is not going to be any "miracle" turn around (I don't think Cutcliffe could do anything with this guy) and we Vols are going to just have to wait til he no longer sports an Orange jersey to have a chance to win big games.
 
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TitanVol82 said:
I want to see how Crompton reacts from a bad game going into Florida. Will he crumble mentally like last year after a loss or will he toss the UCLA game out of his head and play with some fire and focus??

This will likely be the defining game for him at UT. His window for leaving a positive mark on the program is running out of time and he could very well be benched with another poor performance for good.

I will be rooting for him Saturday like I always do and be praying for a miracle...
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This isn't a crossraods for Crompton...his chance has come and gone...the only question is how long will it take our new coach to realize and admit that he's a lost cause...

It never ceases to amaze me how many lifes Crompton has with some fans around here...

Crompton has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't have what it takes upstairs to play at the SEC level...

We will not win a meaningful game this year with him under center...period

And worst of all for Crompton...at least half of the team believes the last sentence as much as I do
 
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#10_Ainge_#10 said:
An INT or occasional FUMBLE is to be expected but he tries way too hard to make something happen when nothing is there
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Agreed... trying too hard to make up for a past mistake is just leading to bad decisions on his part... forced bad decisions, inability to see open receivers, etc.

No matter how much Crompton says to the media about "forgetting it and moving on".. .the fact of the matter is that deep inside himself, he's incapable of getting over it.
 
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tango said:
Quite frankly, I think Crompton's mental problems boil down to the fact that he's trying too hard... When he lays an egg, he tries harder to make up for it and then he starts getting tunnel vision, which leads to another egg. ...kinda like baseball pitchers when they start aiming the ball instead of just relaxing and throwing.

Aside from the fact that WKU is not UCLA or UF, maybe Crompton's INT at WKU didn't affect him so much because it came as a result of a tipped pass. (or maybe it was because he just wasn't nervous against WKU). In any case, I suspect it's easier to disregard a tipped-pass-INT as "not my fault" in his mind, and so it's easier to stay relaxed and bounce back from that. But when you get to UCLA and you start throwing INTs right into the hands of the DBs, well... that's not quite the same thing.

In my opinion, Crompton is too easily frazzled when he throws a "bad" INT (i.e., not a "fluke" INT), and when that happens, it's virtually impossible for him to come back from that (history seems to indicate that anyway).

One INT against UF and it'll probably be worth it to put Stephens in... to have a *slightly* better chance for that one game. But... if UF is a no-win game in any case, and if Crompton is still the consensus choice as starter (for the season), then what real good does it do to put in Stephens?

It would seem better to just let Crompton stay in there and force feed him...
He's talked to everybody in the world to "fix his mental" and it's obviously not done the trick. Crompton is truly the only person who can fix Crompton. He has to learn how to deal with the pressure and come back after laying an egg. Putting Stephens in is not going to fix that.

Next year, assuming he wins the job, Stephens will be ok, but for some reason, I just don't think naming him the starter for the rest of this season is necessarily going to make him any better next year.

**IF** that's true, then really, it doesn't make much sense to me to put in Stephens right now.

If this coaching staff truly thought Crompton was a bust, they'd bench him and there wouldn't be any question about it. As it is, they/we obviously NEED Crompton to get himself fixed in the head.
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I think he just isn't a Division 1 caliber quarterback, not starting anyways...
 
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tango said:
Agreed... trying too hard to make up for a past mistake is just leading to bad decisions on his part... forced bad decisions, inability to see open receivers, etc.

No matter how much Crompton says to the media about "forgetting it and moving on".. .the fact of the matter is that deep inside himself, he's incapable of getting over it.
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I just don't understand how you can get that rattled playing in front of your home crowd
 
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Crompton cannot perform once the importance of the game reaches a certain point. Period.
 
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thunder5 said:
This isn't a crossraods for Crompton...his chance has come and gone...the only question is how long will it take our new coach to realize and admit that he's a lost cause...

It never ceases to amaze me how many lifes Crompton has with some fans around here...

Crompton has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he doesn't have what it takes upstairs to play at the SEC level...

We will not win a meaningful game this year with him under center...period

And worst of all for Crompton...at least half of the team believes the last sentence as much as I do
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If you could sum up the culture that Kiffin has tried to establish ever since he arrived in Knoxville, it's this: competition will be fierce and unending, and the best players will be on the field. Kiffin's not running a charity here; he has no baggage with Crompton or anything. Crompton's out there because Kiffin and his staff of NFL-quality coaches think he gives the team the best chance to win. If that sounds ludicrous, think back to how awful Nick Stephens was last year after a change was finally made. It doesn't really matter whether they change quarterbacks or not. Neither of them can play.
 
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