Crompton's Draft Stock Rising

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I've read alot of mixed reviews of Crompton, but I like the guys attitude. He didn't pout, he improved. I think that says alot for him.
 
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#5
I think the fact that people in the media are still paying attention to him despite the fact he wasn't invited to the combine speaks volumes. Crompton was screwed over at UT by poor coaching and lazy WR's. He will surprise everyone when he gets to the NFL.
 
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Wow, thats a cool video. I wish him the best of luck in the draft, along with berry, rogan, williams, hardesty
 
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Crompton has a nack for looking good in practice and then delivering underwhelming performances on the field. He's done it for years.
 
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Even in his 'breakout' year last year he still made a LOT of bad throws and he never really fixed his accuracy issues. He also piled up the TDs against some less than stellar competition so his 26 TDs is a little deceiving. Yes, 26 TDs was still miraculous when you look at 2008, but improving wildly on 2008 doesn't mean he has NFL potential.

I think career backup is his absolute ceiling and I don't feel great about his chances at that. Of the starting QBs I've watched at UT over the last 20 years even in 2008, he was still worse than most of them. Give me Tee Martin, Casey Clausen, Heath Shuler, you name it, and they all washed out in the NFL.
 
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As much as I hate to say it. Kiffin actually did something good. He helped this kid, even when we hated Crompton (as a QB I mean) he stood by him. If Jon goes on to have a career in the league he owes it all to Kiffin. Watching this video also made me realize once again how glad I am Fulmer was fired. Before you Fulmerites bash me, I know it wasn't all his fault Crompton wasn't handled better, but ultimately it was his responsibility. Good luck JC.
 
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Vol423 said:
Crompton. I've never seen so much love for so little talent.
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In all the time I've been watching UT, JC had the least WR talent to work with of any starting QB. In his two years as a starter, he never had a WR that would be better than a #3 receiver for UGA, UF, USC, Bama, Ole Miss, LSU, Aub, or even UK... and I'm not completely sure about MSU. I like G Jones and Moore but neither is a #1 WR when compared to Pickens, Price, Meachem, etc.

You are completely out of your mind if you don't think the guy has talent. He does. His fatal flaw won't be physical talent or intelligence... it will be whether he can bear up under the pressure.
 
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triadvolfan said:
I think career backup is his absolute ceiling and I don't feel great about his chances at that. Of the starting QBs I've watched at UT over the last 20 years even in 2008, he was still worse than most of them. Give me Tee Martin, Casey Clausen, Heath Shuler, you name it, and they all washed out in the NFL.
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Heath didn't play well but he also had his career end with a bad injury.

Clausen NEVER had the arm to be an NFL QB.

Martin supposedly didn't have the head for it.

OTOH, all three of those QB's had better WR's than JC has had by a very wide margin.

I guess this would be a good time to mention Brad Johnson. Johnson was a career back up at FSU to Heisman winner Charlie Ward. Ward tried and failed to make it in the NBA while Johnson went on to have a long NFL career and win a Super Bowl.

IF JC gets a foot in the door, he has every bit as much physical talent and intelligence as Johnson.
 
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davethevol said:
I think the fact that people in the media are still paying attention to him despite the fact he wasn't invited to the combine speaks volumes. Crompton was screwed over at UT by poor coaching and lazy WR's. He will surprise everyone when he gets to the NFL.
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Totally agree!!
 
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sjt18 said:
Heath didn't play well but he also had his career end with a bad injury.

Clausen NEVER had the arm to be an NFL QB.

Martin supposedly didn't have the head for it.

OTOH, all three of those QB's had better WR's than JC has had by a very wide margin.

I guess this would be a good time to mention Brad Johnson. Johnson was a career back up at FSU to Heisman winner Charlie Ward. Ward tried and failed to make it in the NBA while Johnson went on to have a long NFL career and win a Super Bowl.

IF JC gets a foot in the door, he has every bit as much physical talent and intelligence as Johnson.
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Lack of accuracy will kill an NFL career just as quick as a lack of arm strength or a bad head. Crompton completed 58% of his passes last year in a QB friendly system. That would rank him 23rd in the NFL, and the game is a LOT faster there. I know he didn't have the best talent around him (although the Faulkner/Fleming duo that Shuler had to work with never impressed me) but when I watched Crompton I saw a QB that was worse than those guys mentioned.

He made plenty of mistakes last year that weren't the receiver's fault.
 
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triadvolfan said:
Lack of accuracy will kill an NFL career just as quick as a lack of arm strength or a bad head. Crompton completed 58% of his passes last year in a QB friendly system.
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JC got better as the year progressed and Jones/Moore caught up. When JC had confidence in the WR's he was throwing to, he showed the ability to consistently put the ball in very small windows. It would have helped a great deal if he had WR's with the athleticism to actually get separation. You can't compare throwing to Maze and Julio to throwing to Moore and GJ accuracy wise.

That would rank him 23rd in the NFL, and the game is a LOT faster there.
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Crompton had a 136.1 passer rating... which would have ranked him 1st in the NFL. IOW's, your point doesn't hold water.
... when I watched Crompton I saw a QB that was worse than those guys mentioned.
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IMO JC would have set records with the receiving corps that Clausen had and would have been as good as Tee.

He made plenty of mistakes last year that weren't the receiver's fault.
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Every QB does. But those mistakes are magnified and compounded when you aren't working with great WR's nor do you trust those WR's to run their routes correctly.

I don't know precisely how good he might have been with better coaching and WR's. Maybe he wouldn't have been any better... but I would have liked to have seen it.
 
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His NFL QB rating based on last year's stats would have been 90.4 ranking him 13th in the NFL.

If you watched Crompton last year and thought he was a QB with NFL accuracy squeezing balls into small windows b/c his receivers couldn't get separation then you were watching different games than I was. Both Crompton and the receivers struggled early and picked it up late. If you think the windows he had to throw into last year were small they will only get smaller in the NFL. So a team has to take a flyer to assume his completion % will go up when he turns pro, no matter how bad his receivers were last year.
 
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Crompton has my best wishes. He came across in 2009 as a dedicated VOL that stuck with UT when most UT fans didn't want him. That kind of commitment carries a lot of weight in my book. Those of you that are skilled QB evaluators may be right - He may never throw a pass in the NFL. Regardless he's still OK with me. I'm glad he was our QB last year.

Just my opinion - pair it with $1 and you can get a cup of coffee - just not at Starbuck's.
 
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