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I just read an article on espn talking about how Kiffin told some wide outs that Crompton was going to make a good QB. Kiffin went on to say that it was the system not Crompton. Now I want to believe him when he says that but even when the offense was just a couple of plays he couldnt make a 5 yard throw. I was just wondering what all of you think. Is Crompton the answer we need.
 
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Just my personal opinion -- and I'll preface that by saying right now, I'm not at all a fan of Crompton -- but I think it's at least **possible** that with nobody seeming to really know the offense last year, Crompton himself just had zero confidence in it and this probably affected the hamster running the wheel in his head, which in turn just affected his overall performance.

It's almost reminiscent of Ainge coming back from the shoulder injury and pretty much stinking up the place, only to finally settle down and turn it around and get some of that confidence back.

While I'm not sure I have much confidence myself that Crompton can turn it around at this point, I have more confidence in the coaching staff being able to get Crompton turned around -------- inasmuch as that makes sense to anybody.
 
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NO! There is not a SEC Caliber QB on UT's roster and it will show for the next two years. Another year of sucking with these three and then breaking in a True Fr. next year will be just as bad. But watch out for 2011!
 
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He couldn't make any throws in that awesome 2-step drop system Clawson ran last year. We'll see how he does in a true pro-style offense.
 
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I am not saying Crompton is a good quaterback, but to answer your question about the 5 yard throws. I think if it was the system he was in, then I would guess his confidience level was way down. My opinion confidience is one of the key ingredents to a good quaterback. Look at most of your quaterbacks they are somewhat cocky and confident in themselves. For example look at Kurt Werner this year vs. the past couple of years. He got off to a good start this year, which boosted his confidience. Just my opinion, I am a BJ. Coleman fan.
 
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tango said:
Just my personal opinion -- and I'll preface that by saying right now, I'm not at all a fan of Crompton -- but I think it's at least **possible** that with nobody seeming to really know the offense last year, Crompton himself just had zero confidence in it and this probably affected the hamster running the wheel in his head, which in turn just affected his overall performance.

It's almost reminiscent of Ainge coming back from the shoulder injury and pretty much stinking up the place, only to finally settle down and turn it around and get some of that confidence back.

While I'm not sure I have much confidence myself that Crompton can turn it around at this point, I have more confidence in the coaching staff being able to get Crompton turned around -------- inasmuch as that makes sense to anybody.
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That makes sense to me.
 
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tango said:
Just my personal opinion -- and I'll preface that by saying right now, I'm not at all a fan of Crompton -- but I think it's at least **possible** that with nobody seeming to really know the offense last year, Crompton himself just had zero confidence in it and this probably affected the hamster running the wheel in his head, which in turn just affected his overall performance.

It's almost reminiscent of Ainge coming back from the shoulder injury and pretty much stinking up the place, only to finally settle down and turn it around and get some of that confidence back.

While I'm not sure I have much confidence myself that Crompton can turn it around at this point, I have more confidence in the coaching staff being able to get Crompton turned around -------- inasmuch as that makes sense to anybody.
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Ainge had the benefit of genetics, all the tools, and a great QB coach. Plus he showed signs of his true potential right out of the gate. Nobody on this roster has proven anything or even showed signs of promise.
 
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I will say this, and I have heard this from multiple people. If you want a bookish Peyton Manningeesque quarterback to make all the reads and audible at the line, then JC is not your Quarterback.

However, the man is built. He is very athletic, very strong, and after talking to several friends on the team is a good leader. He needs coaching and he needs a simpler system to succeed. Dave Clawson could not provide this. He had a very complicated system filled with motion and pre-snap reads. Needless to say this system was not very Jon Crompton friendy.

With a new intelligent quarterbacks coach in Dan Reaves, and a playcaller that is very player friendly in whichever one ends up calling plays, Crompton is put in a POSITION to succeed.

However, Crompton is a senior, he is not the long term answer, but he could be a step ladder that helps this offense climb out of the cellar.
 
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TennesseeT said:
Ainge had the benefit of genetics, all the tools, and a great QB coach. Plus he showed signs of his true potential right out of the gate. Nobody on this roster has proven anything or even showed signs of promise.
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See UT vs. LSU 2006. Crompton showed signs of promise then.
 
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Let's see what do you want Kiffin to say? He's s*** and will not play this year?

Reaves said he hasn't even seen the men throw a football yet. I'm just going to sit back and see what happens. New minds, new thought, let them work, we'll see when Spring Camp breaks.
 
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Looking back at it I really think it should be B J Coleman. He played one game. Thay only let him throw it a couple of times and I know he has a great arm. He can also move on his feet pretty well.
 
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VolStudent19 said:
I will say this, and I have heard this from multiple people. If you want a bookish Peyton Manningeesque quarterback to make all the reads and audible at the line, then JC is not your Quarterback.

However, the man is built. He is very athletic, very strong, and after talking to several friends on the team is a good leader. He needs coaching and he needs a simpler system to succeed. Dave Clawson could not provide this. He had a very complicated system filled with motion and pre-snap reads.

Needless to say this system is not very Jon Crompton friendy. With a new intelligent quarterbacks coach in Dan Reaves, and a playcaller that is very player friendly in whichever one ends up calling plays, Crompton is put in a POSITION to succeed.

However, Crompton is a senior, he is not the long term answer, but he could be a step ladder that helps this offense climb out of the cellar.
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No. I remember seeing gaping holes on third and short last year that I could have run to for the first but Crompton time and time and time again was tackled short or the first down. He runs worse than Ainge.
 
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I would also like to add that if Ryan Mallett would have transferred to UT instead of Arkansas, we probably would not be having a QB debate.
 
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Those same five yard throws were made when Cutcliff was there... After UCLA he just got worse instead of better. During that game he threw the ball like 40 something times. Why would you throw the ball that many times with a new quarterback. especially when their rushing average in the first half was like 8 or 9 yards a carry.He had no blocking or running game at all the rest of the season. I'm anxious to see how it works out. i know he's more than capable of being a good QB. Man, I'm glad Clawsons gone.
 
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orangetanker11 said:
See UT vs. LSU 2006. Crompton showed signs of promise then.
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Throwing a couple of deep balls for an All-American wide receiver to run under showed nothing. Running over a 5-8 175lb safety when your 6-3 225 showed nothing. Crompton had his chance last year and he couldn't cut it. And that's all we have to base our opinions on. Nick Stephens is the only real option for next year. At least he showed fire and heart.
 
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TennesseeT said:
No. I remember seeing gaping holes on third and short last year that I could have run to for the first but Crompton time and time and time again was tackled short or the first down. He runs worse than Ainge.
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By Athletic I do not mean a strong runner. The man is not Michael Vick. By athletic I mean that he has a body that can take punishment, and he has the physical tools to stand strong in the pocket. He can run, and was hobbled by a bad ankle almost all of last year.

Also, noone runs worse then Ainge. Infected knee Peyton Manning runs better then Ainge. Tom Brady minutes after his injury could run circles around Erik Ainge.
 
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TennesseeT said:
Throwing a couple of deep balls for an All-American wide receiver to run under showed nothing. Running over a 5-8 175lb safety when your 6-3 225 showed nothing. Crompton had his chance last year and he couldn't cut it. And that's all we have to base our opinions on. Nick Stephens is the only real option for next year. At least he showed fire and heart.
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Re-watch the game. Meachem made good plays, but without a perfect throw, the pass is incomplete or intercepted. In that game he showed he COULD, and HAD THE ABILITY to make throws. Yes, Crompton looked terrible last year, but do you honestly think it was all Crompton? I am under the impression that Clawson had plenty to do with our offensive collapse.
 
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orangetanker11 said:
Re-watch the game. Meachem made good plays, but without a perfect throw, the pass is incomplete or intercepted. In that game he showed he COULD, and HAD THE ABILITY to make throws. Yes, Crompton looked terrible last year, but do you honestly think it was all Crompton? I am under the impression that Clawson had plenty to do with our offensive collapse.
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That and a terrible blocking performance by the O-line!
 
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I remember Ainge making a touchdown saving tackle that ended up being the difference in the ball game. Crompton only helped the other teams.
 
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Here's my take on it. I know a former tn coach who was involved in cromptons recruiting. I asked him one day if we had hope for JC next year. He told me that he and the whole offense never did understand the
scheming of clawsons offense. Said with proper coaching and the right system that Crompton will make a good qb and that he has all the skills. Guess we will see in a few months.
 
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