Crompton vs Reality

#77
#77
Ohio Vol said:
The third sentence is true, but the other three don't correlate to it at all.

Back when Spurrier was at Florida, his teams had obscenely high yards/carry numbers. The reason was that he used the pass to set up the run, knowing that at some point the defense would start getting undisciplined and become open to the run. Tom Osborne at Nebraska basically ran their basic option to set up the fullback trap and the midline; both of those plays also had extremely high yards/carry numbers.

It's never as simple as "just do this more" because there's a lot more that goes into those numbers than one simple play or one family of plays.
Click to expand...


The only thing I would argue about in the UCLA was that the pass was absolutely killing us. Whether Crompton was putting passes in the third row or grounding out to the shortstop, he just wasn't accurate and he wasn't allowing plays to develop. Granted, he was getting heavy blitzes, but he needs to read those and get out of the pocket better. Bottom line, the passing game sucked, but we never did anything to fix it.
 
#80
#80
volfanbill said:
The only thing I would argue about in the UCLA was that the pass was absolutely killing us. Whether Crompton was putting passes in the third row or grounding out to the shortstop, he just wasn't accurate and he wasn't allowing plays to develop. Granted, he was getting heavy blitzes, but he needs to read those and get out of the pocket better. Bottom line, the passing game sucked, but we never did anything to fix it.
Click to expand...

The problem was that there was no way to get out of the pocket. The DTs were just ripping into the backfield and the DEs had no trouble getting by the OTs (not really a problem when the line soft-sets in pass protection).

I can guarantee that if pass protection was done with a hard set, there wouldn't have been any trouble with any aspect of the offense. The term "back on your heels" means that one is in a desperate spot, but somehow pass blocking that is built around that physical position is supposed to be a good idea.
 
#81
#81
Ohio Vol said:
The problem was that there was no way to get out of the pocket. The DTs were just ripping into the backfield and the DEs had no trouble getting by the OTs (not really a problem when the line soft-sets in pass protection).

I can guarantee that if pass protection was done with a hard set, there wouldn't have been any trouble with any aspect of the offense. The term "back on your heels" means that one is in a desperate spot, but somehow pass blocking that is built around that physical position is supposed to be a good idea.
Click to expand...

There are soo many ways to get out of the kind of blitzing and pocket pressure, but we never tried any of it. I will admit that could still be all on Crompton in game, but as a coach you have to have your player ready to go out there and make necessary adjustments. All that said, I think they still refused to try to get out in the flat to the TEs or a RB out of the backfield.
 
#82
#82
volfanbill said:
There are soo many ways to get out of the kind of blitzing and pocket pressure, but we never tried any of it. I will admit that could still be all on Crompton in game, but as a coach you have to have your player ready to go out there and make necessary adjustments. All that said, I think they still refused to try to get out in the flat to the TEs or a RB out of the backfield.
Click to expand...

Personally I would have gone with a series of basic trap and power plays to take the edge off the DL, then get right back into a regular playcalling scheme.

And since I wasn't in the press box or sidelines for that game, I honestly have no idea what was being discussed or planned and it would be foolish on my part to speculate.
 
#83
#83
Ohio Vol said:
The third sentence is true, but the other three don't correlate to it at all.

Back when Spurrier was at Florida, his teams had obscenely high yards/carry numbers. The reason was that he used the pass to set up the run, knowing that at some point the defense would start getting undisciplined and become open to the run. Tom Osborne at Nebraska basically ran their basic option to set up the fullback trap and the midline; both of those plays also had extremely high yards/carry numbers.

It's never as simple as "just do this more" because there's a lot more that goes into those numbers than one simple play or one family of plays.
Click to expand...

Spurrier's offense didn't have under a 50% passing percentage, and a quarterback who is ill equipped to run the offense. Clawsen's scheme may be good, but not with Crompton back there. There was absolutley no excuse for him to continue calling pass plays when Crompton was clearly rattled, and we were running the ball so effectivley.

Clawsen's gameplan may be to set up the pass with the run, but we are unable to do that with Crompton. He must adapt and use the run to set up the pass, or this will be a long season. That's why I am so down on Clawsen at this point.
 
#85
#85
chidave said:
Spurrier's offense didn't have under a 50% passing percentage, and a quarterback who is ill equipped to run the offense. Clawsen's scheme may be good, but not with Crompton back there. There was absolutley no excuse for him to continue calling pass plays when Crompton was clearly rattled, and we were running the ball so effectivley.

Clawsen's gameplan may be to set up the pass with the run, but we are unable to do that with Crompton. He must adapt and use the run to set up the pass, or this will be a long season. That's why I am so down on Clawsen at this point.
Click to expand...

I'll give Clawson the benefit of the doubt to this point and into the immediate future.

There's really two ways of calling plays, and you can find both great success and abysmal failure in both schools of thought:
1) Calling each time with the purpose of scoring points on that particular play at that exact time, or
2) Calling plays in a chain in order to set up a particular home run play

I'm partial to the latter myself for a variety of reasons. Basically it comes down to playing dumb with the opposing defensive coordinator; he thinks you're not adjusting and will keep calling something, so he starts adjusting to stop what you keep doing. Then BAM! If you want to recall a great example that's nauseating, I remember the '99 Fiesta Bowl against Nebraska. They'd been running option nonstop and I could feel the trap coming.....I could just feel it. I looked at no one in particular since I was by myself and said "Here it comes", and on that next play Dan Alexander went up the middle on the trap for a solid 70-plus yards. I think he was past Deon Grant before anyone realized he had the ball.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top