Crompton finds religion!

#101
#101
The point is, if you start a discussion on politics or religion, don't expect everyone to agree with you and be prepared for the onslaught of opinions. As "innocent" and "lighthearted" as the OP thought he was being, he opened a can of worms and I'd rather have the discussion on an another board, not sports related.
 
#102
#102
temat said:
...not insinuate that GOD is why he performed well?

Also, it is truly a shame that disagreement with your anecdote elicits comments about the intelligence, maturity & ignorance of those who don't share your beliefs.

When everything revolves around a single subjective 'fact', you have little tolerance for those who don't share your view.
I am glad that all of you who believe find solace in that. Good for you! I hope it makes your lives more fulfilling for you.
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I have found that the issue of tolerance is exactly opposite from what you have stated. Most Christians go out of their way to ensure that they are tolerant of Non-Christian views, where Non-Christians are not tolerant of Christianity. This is shown in your mockery of the original post that Jonathan Crompton had accepted Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect you for sharing your views, but I do not have to be tolerant of the mockery of my beliefs and my new Brother in Christ. No one was or is mocking your beliefs. You do not need to mock Christianity or Crompton for becoming a Christian. And yes, my life is more than fulfilling; my cup runs over from the blessings the Lord has given me. I will pray that the Lord blesses your life and you find fulfillment in it as well.
 
#103
#103
That is great for Crompton. The poster never said that this was the reason that he played so well against Georgia. There should be no negative posts concerning this matter. Sometimes people are saved during there most trying of times, and we all no that Crompton has had them both on and off the field. Good to hear.
 
#105
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jrobison said:
I was just trying to share a little info. I'm happy that JC has found a higher purpose. I repeated exactly what I was told. No one insinuated that Crompton's arm was one with God. My reference to his play on Saturday was nothing more than repeating a light hearted comment from one person to another. It's no different than the thousands of Tebow comments that we all make here. Now that it involves a Vol, suddenly the the reference can't be made in jest? Sad.

I did not mean for this devolve into bashing of any one thing or another...although, with the maturity level of some on this board, I should've seen it coming. It is unbelievable how ignorant we (fan base) can be. I'd appreciate it if a mod would just delete this thread. Those who got the point understand and are happy for the kid. Those that didn't might be the ones who have tortured the guy and embarassed us all. I'll probably never call him a good QB, but he's obviously a good person to put up with all of our (fans) crap. I obviously overestimated the intelligence of some.

Again, I apologize.
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No apology necessary. Thanks for sharing.
 
#106
#106
temat said:
How does this...
According to the gentleman, Crompton accepted God a few weeks ago. The man said that he and Cromp had been talking and that he had been praying for JC for a while (as he had obviously gone through some rough times). Well, last Saturday before the UGA game, the two shared a prayer. Apperantly, the Chaplain told JC that he really felt that God had some amazing things in store for him.

Lo-and-behold...

Looks like Tebow isn't the only QB with a divine edge! Well, the Lord wears Orange afterall!
...not insinuate that GOD is why he performed well?

Also, it is truly a shame that disagreement with your anecdote elicits comments about the intelligence, maturity & ignorance of those who don't share your beliefs.

When everything revolves around a single subjective 'fact', you have little tolerance for those who don't share your view.

I am glad that all of you who believe find solace in that. Good for you! I hope it makes your lives more fulfilling for you.
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I agree. That was not an apology either.
 
#107
#107
GmanTN said:
Lots of people claim to be christians, going to church does not make you a christian. As far as religion teaching hate, that is absurd. That goes against everything in the bible. I have met plenty of so called christians who take scripure out of context and twist it to suit their need. For those who have posted negative comments pertaining to Crompton finding salvation. You are entitled to your opinion, it does not anger me, it saddens me to what this world is becoming. As a christian I pray for peace, wisdom and strength.
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Excellent post Gman.
 
#108
#108
As a believer in Christ, I am very happy for JC. Thanks for posting this good news!! I, like you, don't believe God really cares who wins or loses football games, but is more interested in what we do with Him and His offer. What I am most sad about is how a few "bad apples" have distorted what followers of Christ are supposed to look like. None of us are perfect, and to parade around like one is, is very hypocritical. Instead, we should exude the Grace we've been given and represent Jesus with an attitude that reflects such and reminds us we really are "nothing" without Him.
 
#109
#109
I don't want to talk theology but will give a few facts from an "insider".

I talked with a friend of mine who works with FCA in East TN and he said that this was true about Crompton and that he accepted Christ about a month or so ago, not the week before UGA. Whenever it happened - I think it is awesome. However much I love UT, it is a distant second to Christ.

Assuming the chaplain that spoke at Jeff Co. was the UT FCA chaplain, his name is Roger Wood. I got to hear him speak at a FCA camp earlier this summer and he's a tremendous man and Christian. He's new to the UT program this year from Chattanooga and from all indications is doing great things.

The guy at Jefferson Co. wouldn't have been former UT linebacker Scott Galion would it? He's an area rep for the Morristown area and I don't know if that included Jeff Co. or not.
 
#110
#110
People who think God gives a rat's ass about who wins a football game, but will let innocent children suffer, are idiots.
 
#112
#112
vol63 said:
Very well put. Some people use religion as a crutch so to speak, while others don't require it to live a happy, fulfilling life. All of the nonreligious people i've met have always been very kind and caring people while many of the religious people i've met here in the south are quite the opposite. Sure, they're good people in their minds. But the stuff that comes out of their mouths about people different from themselves is absurd. Religion teaches hate against one another
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You have a very distorted, self-deluded perspective. I lived in a city comprised mostly of non-religious people, Los Angeles, for ten and a half years. It's completely true that many religious people are hypocrites, but if you don't believe in the existence of good and evil and heaven and hell, go live in the "city of angels" for a few months. They should call it the city of demons - and I'm not referring to invisible entities either, but rather all the non-religious people out there in the film industry who are world champions at putting on a facade of being nice but would take up child sacrifice tomorrow if they thought it would give them a little more money and a little more power.
 
#116
#116
Good for JC. Whether he wins at football or not, the peace he gains from accepting Christ, will make all the different in his outlook on everything. I am happy for him and glad for those doing their part to make a difference in the lives of these guys. Great news on many levels!
 
#117
#117
Midfielder10 said:
Well no one really knows. So quit acting like you do.
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From the Book of Romans:

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.


So if you believe the Bible is a lie, then no one knows. If on the other hand you believe as I do that it is the truth, then I as well as you and all people know the truth about what happens when we die - many just choose not to acknowledge it until it's too late.
 
#118
#118
walt2007 said:
You'll find out when it's too late.
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Or we'll just all be dead, lifeless, and without the ability to "find out" anything.

If God is all-powerful, all-seeing, and purely good as Christianity espouses, he wouldn't create nonbelievers knowing, beforehand, that he will eventually send them to hell to suffer for all of eternity.

A God that would make a place like hell and send people there for not believing in him is clearly not a God that is "good." Especially considering that God left no proof behind that he even exists (except a bible that was written by sheepherders several millenia ago, that has been revised by several cultures, and is internally inconsistent).

But hey, I'm sure you've thought it all out.......So who's being intolerant of who? At least I don't condemn you to firey torture for believing the things you believe. :hi:
 
#119
#119
temat said:
How does this...
According to the gentleman, Crompton accepted God a few weeks ago. The man said that he and Cromp had been talking and that he had been praying for JC for a while (as he had obviously gone through some rough times). Well, last Saturday before the UGA game, the two shared a prayer. Apperantly, the Chaplain told JC that he really felt that God had some amazing things in store for him.

Lo-and-behold...

Looks like Tebow isn't the only QB with a divine edge! Well, the Lord wears Orange afterall!
...not insinuate that GOD is why he performed well?

Also, it is truly a shame that disagreement with your anecdote elicits comments about the intelligence, maturity & ignorance of those who don't share your beliefs.

When everything revolves around a single subjective 'fact', you have little tolerance for those who don't share your view.

I am glad that all of you who believe find solace in that. Good for you! I hope it makes your lives more fulfilling for you.
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No sir...you are incorrect in ALL this. You did not qoute my entire original post. Please refer back to that...especially the part at the end where I explained my posting.,

And I was not being intolerant, although I can see why you'd think that. I was referring to the immaturity and ignorance of those of us that can't have a thread about kid who got saved without it turning into a religous war. That includes folks who want to take this thread and turn it against someone who doesn't share their beliefs. That was not my intention. I did NOT call anyone ignorant because of their faith. If it sounded that way, I'm sorry.

PLEASE...look somewhere else if you're just wanting a heated debate. I'm not looking for one in here.
 
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#120
#120
tigervol9802 said:
I don't want to talk theology but will give a few facts from an "insider".

I talked with a friend of mine who works with FCA in East TN and he said that this was true about Crompton and that he accepted Christ about a month or so ago, not the week before UGA. Whenever it happened - I think it is awesome. However much I love UT, it is a distant second to Christ.

Assuming the chaplain that spoke at Jeff Co. was the UT FCA chaplain, his name is Roger Wood. I got to hear him speak at a FCA camp earlier this summer and he's a tremendous man and Christian. He's new to the UT program this year from Chattanooga and from all indications is doing great things.

The guy at Jefferson Co. wouldn't have been former UT linebacker Scott Galion would it? He's an area rep for the Morristown area and I don't know if that included Jeff Co. or not.
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Very well may be. I'm not sure...didn't get a name.
 
#121
#121
jrobison said:
No sir...you are incorrect in ALL this. You did not qoute my entire original post. Please refer back to that...especially the part at the end where I explained my posting.,

And I was not being intolerant, although I can see why you'd think that. I was referring to the immaturity and ignorance of those of us that can't have a thread about kid who got saved without it turning into a religous war. That includes folks who want to take this thread and turn it against someone who doesn't share their beliefs. That was not my intention. I did NOT call anyone ignorant because of their faith. If it sounded that way, I'm sorry.

PLEASE...look somewhere else if you're just wanting a heated debate. I'm not looking for one in here.
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This thread might be your baby, but she's all grows up and now has a life of her own. You need not participate if you don't want to. But what else are some of us going to do on a bye week?
 
#122
#122
Ashevolle said:
Or we'll just all be dead, lifeless, and without the ability to "find out" anything.

If God is all-powerful, all-seeing, and purely good as Christianity espouses, he wouldn't create nonbelievers knowing, beforehand, that he will eventually send them to hell to suffer for all of eternity.

A God that would make a place like hell and send people there for not believing in him is clearly not a God that is "good." Especially considering that God left no proof behind that he even exists (except a bible that was written by sheepherders several millenia ago, that has been revised by several cultures, and is internally inconsistent).

But hey, I'm sure you've thought it all out.......So who's being intolerant of who? At least I don't condemn you to firey torture for believing the things you believe. :hi:
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I don't condemn anyone; I'm not the judge. That title has been reserved for Jesus. I hope you figure it out. I just said a prayer for you as a matter of fact.

As to what God would and wouldn't do, that's easily the dumbest, most risible argument of the many that people give for not following Christ. Here's a little test for you: if God created the universe, he's probably a little smarter than you or me or any other human being who's ever lived. I personally can't make so much as a grain of sand out of thin air, and there's never been a human being who could. So unless you can make a universe, you're probably not qualified to judge the intelligence and decisions of the being who did.
 
#123
#123
God gave us free will; he doesn't force us to accept him. He longs for us to, but he doesn't force our decision, because then we'd be nothing more than robots.
 
#124
#124
Ashevolle said:
This thread might be your baby, but she's all grows up and now has a life of her own. You need not participate if you don't want to. But what else are some of us going to do on a bye week?
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Yeah...I guess.


You guys just need to have at it then. I just don't want this to turn into some big battle. Just wasn't my intention to start something like that. I have definately learned my lesson. No more threads about religion or politics....or Crompton. He seems to be a very touchy subject these days.
 
#125
#125
Ashevolle said:
I don't think anyone here doesn't want peace, wisdom, and strength. The difference is that some of us pray for it and others of us hope for it. I don't see that there is that much of a difference between hoping and praying.

If Crompton is happier with religion and it helps him be a better person then it is a good thing for him. I haven't seen any negative posts about Crompton or whatever it is that makes him happy. The negativity seems towards this thread and its devolution into pure evangalism.
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That's relativism in its purest form bud. Not to get into a religious debate (although that's what this thread is pretty much), having your priorities in order is not relative. God SHOULD be #1 in all of our lives. He is not at the top for a lot of people (Christian and non-Christian), but, when you get that right, other things in life fall in their proper order. Btw, I'll be the first to say that I fall off that horse daily. It's not a contest luckily.
 
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