Crompton draftable?

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BigPapaVol said:
Improvement has been meteoric, no doubt.

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The amazing thing is that I have built a respectable post count while maintaining such brilliance and humility.
 
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I would really like to see him go to the Colts in a later round. They have a team that is good to go for the next few years at least, so they can take a chance on him. Who better for the kid to learn under than St. Manning?
 
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cotton said:
Crompton is approximately 52x the physical specimen Clausen was. If somebody thinks he can develop the mental parts of the game, they might take a chance on him based solely on that.
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Actually they are the same height and weight:

Crompton 6'4, 228 lb
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=175658

Clausen 6'4, 225 lb
Casey Clausen Stats, News, Photos - Tennessee Volunteers - NCAA College Football - ESPN

Crompton is faster, and has a stronger arm, but Clausen is the smarter QB IMO.
 
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oklavol said:
Actually they are the same height and weight:

Crompton 6'4, 228 lb
Jonathan Crompton Stats, News, Photos - Tennessee Volunteers - NCAA College Football - ESPN

Clausen 6'4, 225 lb
Casey Clausen Stats, News, Photos - Tennessee Volunteers - NCAA College Football - ESPN

Crompton is faster, and has a stronger arm, but Clausen is the smarter QB IMO.
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Having been in close proximity to both gentlemen, you'll just have to take my word that they are different. Clausen's numbers are make-believe. Crompton's are not.
 
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DMichel123 said:
Well, clearly Wonderlic scores are the ultimate measuring stick. I mean, will somebody tell Jeff Fisher to trade Vince Young for Ryan Fitzpatrick already?
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Forgetting for a moment the question of whether intelligence actually matters in QB performance, the important issue is whether GMs believe information gleaned from interviews and Wonderlic scores have enough meaning to effect draft status.

They do, and it will. Crompton needs to do well.
 
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I think Crompton could get drafted in the late rounds, but will probably be nothing more than a career backup.
 
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Volnbeers said:
A friend and I were discussing this the other night and his unbias opinion was that he considers him an under-the-radar mid-round draft pick.

Personally i agree.

It just appears to me that he can be a good QB with good coaching.

Wasn't he the 2nd highest rated QB coming out of high school behind Sanchez?

Anyway, thoughts on the matter? Agree? Disagree?
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No. As Merrill Hoge would say, "We hide our QB, we do not highlight him." We give him simplistic reads and run a lot of smoke and mirrors for him. He would never make it as an NFL QB.

He will not get drafted. He will probably get picked up as an UDFA, but mostly just as a body for Training Camp. I doubt he even makes it to a practice squad.

You have to remember, Chase Daniels and other good college QBs who were putting up numbers who were predicted to get drafted go as UDFAs all the time. Chris Leak was an UDFA. No need to spend even a mid to late round pick on Crompton, even IF you think he could play in the league (which he can't).
 
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Over the past several weeks, Crompton has looked MORE "draftable" than any other SEC QB.

If you were an owner would you want a kid with a nice quick release and great arm who had proven he could deal with "NFL level" criticism and persevered AND who had proven they could operate in a pro-style system.... or would you want a great athlete with a messed up, slow, winding delivery who had never dealt with criticism or adversity as a college QB and who had never proven he was more than a system QB?
 
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Crompton CAN play, but he would be lucky to catch on as an undrafted free agent. He has been too inconsistent. He would need to prove himself to a team. It would be cool to see though.
 
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... and before any of you get the idea that I'm saying he WILL be drafted... we are talking about a league where a team's best player just got unceremoniously booted for using a gay slur and where Rush Limbaugh is too "extreme" but welcomes felons of every stripe and Al Davis.

IOW's, we're not necessarily talking about an institution where fairness and sanity rule.
 
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sjt18 said:
... and before any of you get the idea that I'm saying he WILL be drafted... we are talking about a league where a team's best player just got unceremoniously booted for using a gay slur and where Rush Limbaugh is too "extreme" but welcomes felons of every stripe and Al Davis.

IOW's, we're not necessarily talking about an institution where fairness and sanity rule.
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So a player should be able to talk about gays, but you want Limbaugh in there? Sounds like you're a closet racist and a homophobe. I can agree with you on the felons, but c'mon...
 
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DMichel123 said:
So a player should be able to talk about gays, but you want Limbaugh in there? Sounds like you're a closet racist and a homophobe. I can agree with you on the felons, but c'mon...
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EXACTLY what I am talking about. I refuse to conform to some PC standard therefore I "sound like a closet racist and a homophobe"?

Where did the racist part come from? It probably came from what someone told you about Limbaugh. I seldom listen to the guy these days but he isn't a racist... but then again I don't think it is "racist" to disagree with someone or to refuse to let people able to stand on their own to use "crutches" or to believe that everyone regardless of race should be held to the same standard of criticism and performance.

I am the absolute antithesis of a racist... I actually "bought the part of King's speech when he said men ought to be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. Seems folks like you haven't yet.

As far as "homophobe" is concerned. I believe unapologetically that homosexuality is immoral. I don't mistreat people I disagree with as a matter of moral conviction. My determination to treat people with appropriate kindness is every bit as strong of a moral conviction as my conviction that homosexuality is morally wrong.

So if disagreeing with someone is "homophobic" or racist... then go ahead and name call. I don't hate anyone and will sleep with a clear conscience.
 
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The fact of the matter is that Crompton cannot read a college defense. There is no way he could read a pro defense.
 
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so after looking at some early draft boards Crompton is ranked 11th or 12th among QB's
 
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I hope I'm wrong, but after seeing his season last year and the start this season, he seems to be a slow learner when it comes to grasping a new system. I think that will make a lot of NFL scouts balk, they will offer a free agent contract instead IMHO.
 
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He would need a LOT of work if he were to even make a small impact on any NFL team. If he were to be drafted it would probably be very late in the draft.
 
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sjt18 said:
EXACTLY what I am talking about. I refuse to conform to some PC standard therefore I "sound like a closet racist and a homophobe"?

Where did the racist part come from? It probably came from what someone told you about Limbaugh. I seldom listen to the guy these days but he isn't a racist... but then again I don't think it is "racist" to disagree with someone or to refuse to let people able to stand on their own to use "crutches" or to believe that everyone regardless of race should be held to the same standard of criticism and performance.

I am the absolute antithesis of a racist... I actually "bought the part of King's speech when he said men ought to be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. Seems folks like you haven't yet.

As far as "homophobe" is concerned. I believe unapologetically that homosexuality is immoral. I don't mistreat people I disagree with as a matter of moral conviction. My determination to treat people with appropriate kindness is every bit as strong of a moral conviction as my conviction that homosexuality is morally wrong.

So if disagreeing with someone is "homophobic" or racist... then go ahead and name call. I don't hate anyone and will sleep with a clear conscience.
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I, too, believe that homosexuality is wrong. I don't partake in it, but I don't go around throwing slurs at gays. Nevermind that, have you seen Larry Johnson's stats? He is not their best player anymore.

Limbaugh-
"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve."

"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of
wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

"They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

Obama is “more African in his roots than he is American” and is “behaving like an African colonial despot”

"Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
 
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If Crompton can continue to play like he is right now, he will absolutely be drafted. His passes in the Memphis game were very precise. He's a completely different QB than he was last year.
 
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Crompton and Mallet will be the only two current SEC QBs to see significant playing time at QB in the NFL. Snead is horrible and Tebow will be used at a different position. Cox....lolololol.....
 
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DMichel123 said:
I, too, believe that homosexuality is wrong. I don't partake in it, but I don't go around throwing slurs at gays. Nevermind that, have you seen Larry Johnson's stats? He is not their best player anymore.
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I don't approve of saying offensive things to people... I just find it ironic that guys can do as much as PacMan Jones gets one chance after another but making a stupid comment in the heat of the moment that happens to involve homosexuals gets a guy the door.

If the Chefs (spelling intended) were a well managed team then LJ would have been traded closer to his prime and they wouldn't have one of the longest runs of futility in recent history.
Limbaugh-
"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.
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Is that not a true statement? It may not be politically correct but it is in fact the truth. That is NOT to say that there aren't deserving blacks in both jobs... AND IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY HEARD THE WHOLE STORY... Limbaugh gave that qualification as well.
I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve."
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Right or wrong he gave an honest opinion about ONE INDIVIDUAL black QB. He didn't say blacks shouldn't play QB or anything of the sort.

I'm pretty sure he has specifically praised some black QB's and coaches- Dungy in particular as well as Pittsburgh's coach.

"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
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And that isn't a true statement? How is it his fault when the NFL tolerates thuggery?

I've heard the guy talk about the NFL... He's absolutely passionate about it and has expressed the highest levels of praise for many players regardless of race.

His real crime is being unapologetically conservative when the NFL is televised by NBC, ABC, and CBS.

"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of
wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
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Need to see the context since this sounds tongue in cheek.

"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.
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Context is king. The NAACP has routinely instigated protests that have violent or confrontational aspects to them against people simply as a means to shut them up.

"They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"
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Context once again. I've heard the guy speak IN CONTEXT... and 99/100 his words are taken out of context and spun to the maximum.

For instance the comment that he hoped Obama would fail... He only said that after qualifying that if it were Obama's intent on turning the US into a European style socialist state he hoped he failed. See the difference?

Obama is “more African in his roots than he is American” and is “behaving like an African colonial despot”
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Absolutely positively factually TRUE. The guy has systematically run rough shod over those who disagree with him. If he can't buy people he sets out to destroy them. If they don't agree with and cheer lead for him then he treats them as enemies of the state (witness Fox News). The WH recently put out a warning to Democratic consultants that they wouldn't find work if they went on Fox News. He is trying to regulate political speech on the internet. In the name of "fairness", he's trying to regulate talk radio out of existence.

His administration after promising to be clean and open is one of the dirtiest politically tricksters and secretive/deceptive.

The only administration that comes close to the sensitivity and paranoia about criticism... was Nixon's.

"Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
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Context please.

If this is genuine then I can personally show him how terribly false this statement is. They take the hard work jobs and work their way up. The greatest examples of what made America great can routinely be found among Mexican-Americans.
 
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