Crompton better than Stafford?

#51
#51
"He has proven he can run a fairly sophisticated offensive scheme."

That no one in the league runs and no scout has ever seen him take a snap from under center. Not saying he can't do it, but if your point is that he is a sure fire #1 pick then I think that might raise a red flag or two.
 
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#52
#52
lawgator1 said:
Well, he's big and athletic. He works hard and is of good character and does not cause problems. He has proven he can pass the ball and take and deliver hits. He has proven he can run a fairly sophisticated offensive scheme. And he won the Heisman (though that is actually at the bottom of his list of NFL-indicative accomplishments, I would say).
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Other quarterback's who worked hard, didn't cause problems, ran a fairly sophisticated offense, and won a Heisman:

Troy Smith
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Andre Ware
...and on, and on, and on...

None of those guys were #1 picks.

Tim is a hard-working kid, with good character, and some impressive statistics and trophies...as history has proven time and time again, being great at the college level doesn't necessarily translate into success in the league.
 
#54
#54
The thing I love about this is that if Tebow is drafted #1, I get to shame the bulk of the VN. If he goes top three or four, I can make a pretty good argument, too. If he goes in the second round, I'll have to hear crap about it for about 3 days, but that's it.
 
#55
#55
I give a flying flip when Tebow goes, he will just further proove FL QBs dont do well in the NFL.
 
#56
#56
Jaytrain5 said:
Other quarterback's who worked hard, didn't cause problems, ran a fairly sophisticated offense, and won a Heisman:

Troy Smith
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Andre Ware
...and on, and on, and on...

None of those guys were #1 picks.

Tim is a hard-working kid, with good character, and some impressive statistics and trophies...as history has proven time and time again, being great at the college level doesn't necessarily translate into success in the league.
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You can scratch Troy Smith and Eric Crouch off your list. Ohio State and Nebraska did not run sophisticated offenses.
 
#57
#57
lawgator1 said:
I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not going to let people just post random hopes and dreams on here without some actual factual basis for doing so.
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Well aren't we just lucky to have the gator wet blanket here, the value you are providing is immense. I hope you provide the same service on gator boards, hate to see them miss out on the benefit.

lawgator1 said:
I have value here. People may not like the substance of what I post. But I try to be entertaining, even if its in the cheapest way.
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I'll agree with that, your entertainment value is pretty cheap, and the substance you've brought to this thread so far is only of the highest quality.
 
#58
#58
The UGA vs. Bama OT game from last year is on ESPNU right now. I'm actually excited to watch. It's amazing how ready I am for football when I'm more than happy to sit down and watch two teams that I absolutely despise. The reason I mention this is bc I've been watching the UGA offense to see how much is actually asked of Stafford. The guy really does have a lot of talent and makes some incredible throws. It's the way he plays between some of the great throws he makes that makes me understand his TD/Int ratio. He makes a lot of poor decisions bc he has so much confidence in his arm and thinks he can make every throw, instead of checking down or getting rid of it. We'll see if he is improved or if he is still has that gun slinger mentality this season. I really hope he hasn't. Now I'm just waiting for Mike Patrick's classic Britney Spears comments. Definitely a classic.
 
#59
#59
No the TD/INT ratio isn't a very good scale of how bad he plays. My favorite game last year was when that loser threw 44 passes against Scar, and his team only put up 12 points.....12 POINTS!!!?!!?!?!!!!
His success was simply a product of the over achieving ground game. Did he have a keystone performance last year were he whittled away an opposing defense? no.
Was there a game last year when Stafford looked way ahead of the curve like Peyton did his whole career? no

He is a media created joke, any arguments??
 
#60
#60
I'm not sure I'd write of Stafford as some sort of scrub like a lot of people in this post seem to be doing. Naturally, the gators couldn't help but proclaim Tebow king of the world despite him not being a part of this conversation, but what else is new? Stafford makes some bone-headed decisions sometimes, but the guy is pretty good considering his poor WR Corp. Until the next season plays out there just isn't any way you can definitively anoint Crompton as the better QB, but interestingly neither has lead their team to an SEC Championship.
 
#61
#61
lawgator1 said:
Well, he's big and athletic. He works hard and is of good character and does not cause problems. He has proven he can pass the ball and take and deliver hits. He has proven he can run a fairly sophisticated offensive scheme. And he won the Heisman (though that is actually at the bottom of his list of NFL-indicative accomplishments, I would say).
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You just made a GREAT case for Charlie Ward to be drafted #1 overall.
 
#62
#62
I haven't been overly impressed with Stafford at QB. He is surrounded by talented players. With the running game the Bulldogs have, Stafford should be able to pass at will. The Bulldogs have signed 1 5 star and 5 4 star receivers over the last 4 years, so they should have talent on the outside. His arm is strong, but I think Ainge is a better pro prospect.

We don't know what Crompton can do over the course of a year. The TD pass to Meachem in the endzone against LSU was a perfect throw. Crompton's courage to run the ball will add a dimension we haven't had for a long time. I think and hope he will be the one of the best QBs in the conference, I think he has a chance.
 
#63
#63
All i know is I am super excited about having a deep ball threat like we haven't had in a longggggggggggggggggggggggg time. Ainge was a great QB for the vols, but he was by no means a cannon.
I also think Stafford is extremely overrated and will crumble under pressure in big games.
 
#64
#64
Brewerw said:
All i know is I am super excited about having a deep ball threat like we haven't had in a longggggggggggggggggggggggg time. Ainge was a great QB for the vols, but he was by no means a cannon.
I also think Stafford is extremely overrated and will crumble under pressure in big games.
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Ainge was struggling with injury, normally he has a lot of zip on the ball and can make any throw.
 
#65
#65
First off, We should have won the game against LSU when Crompton played most of the game. Bad call by a ref cost us. Second, Ainge had a worse game against them last year. But, one was the NC and the other was not.
 
#67
#67
Vol423 said:
Crompton was not very good in that game, and we lost.
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Crompton is not the reason why we lost the game... our inability to stop a 3rd or 4th down was the reason why we lost that game. To imply otherwise is not a fair assessment of why we lost that game.
 
#68
#68
We shall soon see .Got a feeling that Crompton will show us fans what we have been missing ! I put the blame solely on the shoulders of Cut and Fulmer for not having him in more last year.You just dont play a q.b. injured the way we did. The comparison to Stafford will soon show,I give Cromp the edge in savvy and play makers on the field with him.He could give us something else missing the past couple of years too,a field general. He does have the heart and his skills will come through.
 
#69
#69
mikes70gto said:
I put the blame solely on the shoulders of Cut and Fulmer for not having him in more last year.You just dont play a q.b. injured the way we did.
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You ever think that was an indication of Crompton's actual readiness to play?

If we're playing a qb with a broken finger and a bum shoulder as much as we did, we had noone else the staff felt good about playing.
 
#70
#70
lawgator1 said:
He has proven he can run a fairly sophisticated offensive scheme.
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The 49ers have already been burned by drafting (in the 1st round, no less) a quarterback from the same "fairly sophisticated offensive scheme" (Alex Smith from Utah). Whoever is drafting 1st in 2010 is likely to remember that mistake.
 
#72
#72
Back to the topic, I can remember one overly-hyped Q-Back who actually figured it out (finally) in his Senior season: Carson Palmer. I could see Stafford's light-bulb turning on, but I'm not convinced yet.

I believe Crompton can definitely fulfill the more important mission: beating UGA. He seems to be composed.
 
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