CP's 5th yr option declined

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How after all this time is this guy still to stupid to understand basic route concepts?
 
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gobraves101035 said:
He'll find another team. Maybe his new team can use him as a receiver some. All he needs is some improved route running and the dude could be one of the best.
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He just cannot understand what to do within an offense. too bad with all that talent. Couldn't do it at UT and can't in the league.
 
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LWSVOL said:
He just cannot understand what to do within an offense. too bad with all that talent. Couldn't do it at UT and can't in the league.
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That's sad. What is he going to do next in his life since his options will be limited?
 
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davethevol said:
That's sad. What is he going to do next in his life since his options will be limited?
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hope he has gotten great investment advice on what he is earning in the league. Been there long enough to bring in some money just hope he has been smart with it.
 
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Mariotta can't hit side of barn, so with CP running wrong routes, perhaps whey would connect......?
 
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seems like just a KR PR guy forever, similar to hester usage......he cant seem to learn a playbook, some of those receivers he was behind were laughable up in Minn. so it speaks to his work ethic more then likely or XandO comprehension....
 
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I think some people underestimate how "challenged" people can be intellectually. I played ball in Hs with some guys who couldn't read and write yet. At 17 years old. Some people will never be able to learn a playbook.ever. they don't have the brainpower. Trying to teach them a complex NFL offense is like trying to teach your dog algebra. It isn't going to happen, regardless of your dog's pedigree or the amount of time and money invested. Julius peppers was illiterate when he left UNC. at 21 years old. I would bet my house that he still is. Can barely speak broken english. Some people are just not bright. It really is that simple.
 
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508mikey said:
Vikings are garbage so is Bridgewater - watch him end up in Dallas with Doolander
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11-5 NFC North Champs and Bridgewater was 10th in completion percentage in the league. He did this with one WR. I'm as big a fan of CP as anyone on this board but enough excuses have been made for him. Norv Turner is one of the best in the business and he can't get him on the field. Not sure the "garbage" Vikings are to blame here.
 
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Giveem6 said:
I don't know about superstar. Everyone in the NFL is talented and extremely athletic but a solid receiver. Definitely. Have a QB that can hit him in stride on a slant route or a rub route across the middle on a consistent basis and hes a weapon. The Vikings didn't use him well imo but hell what do I know.... Lol
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CP's problem is just that he has supreme Athletic talent but no polish. He never was a route runner or student of the game and relied on pure athleticism at a skill position. In college or even the NFL that can go for a bit until those less talented opponents get film on you study it and break it down. As a returner and situational WR he will always be a threat, but until he starts really studying film and working on skills he will never reach his potential.

I find it funny how quick we are to blame coaches CZA for example for these guys not developing then they get to the next level and still don't develop. Some things a coach can't force. Dedication to craft etc. the problem with these kids today is so few of them have ever needed hard work so refuse to engage in it. we actually have coaches that can coach around their weaknesses and mask them.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Mariotta can't hit side of barn, so with CP running wrong routes, perhaps whey would connect......?
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Huh? He completed 67% of his passes at Oregon, 68% as a senior with 42 tds, while averaging a mind blowing 10 yards per attempt. Then, he hit 62% of his passes as a rookie in 12 starts behind the same pathetic OL that gave up more sacks than any other team in the league. Where do you get that he can't hit the broad side of a barn?
 
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QuickSmurf said:
I don't believe that he can't
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correct the word you're looking for is won't. With very few exceptions the all time greatest were exceptions to the rule. If Jerry Rice went to the combine today he would never be drafted based on physical attributes. Raw physical talent reigns supreme at the HS and Collegiate level. Less so in the pros. Peyton was a perfect example of that. Lets not get it twisted Peyton never lacked in any measurable required for his position and was, in fact, well above average in all. But his strength was in that big a$$ head of his. It translated better at the pro level because there pure physical talent is less impactful alone because its everywhere.

Actually it is rarer for a physical freak to make it long in the NFL than the other way around. They come along and shine brightly for a short period but the NFL beats you down so you have to bring something else to the table. UT is getting out of its state of desperation where we relied on those and is back to getting guys that are students of the game. I do truly hope CP can turn things around and develop to his potential though. I love seeing him play.
 
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KBVol said:
Huh? He completed 67% of his passes at Oregon, 68% as a senior with 42 tds, while averaging a mind blowing 10 yards per attempt. Then, he hit 62% of his passes as a rookie in 12 starts behind the same pathetic OL that gave up more sacks than any other team in the league. Where do you get that he can't hit the broad side of a barn?
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I thought the same thing. Literally had one of the best rookie season ever for a QB, behind a horrible line.
 
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KBVol said:
Huh? He completed 67% of his passes at Oregon, 68% as a senior with 42 tds, while averaging a mind blowing 10 yards per attempt. Then, he hit 62% of his passes as a rookie in 12 starts behind the same pathetic OL that gave up more sacks than any other team in the league. Where do you get that he can't hit the broad side of a barn?
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Was it not on this very board that we complain about Dobbs inaccurate passing...? And as I recall, in 2015, Dobbs and Mariota were both right at 62%.

Don't get me wrong. I love Mariota & Dobbs. Both can make plays with their feet.

Just forget it......an attempt at humor. The thread is about CP.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Was it not on this very board that we complain about Dobbs inaccurate passing...? And as I recall, in 2015, Dobbs and Mariota were both right at 62%.

Don't get me wrong. I love Mariota & Dobbs. Both can make plays with their feet.

Just forget it......an attempt at humor. The thread is about CP.
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Dobbs' junior year: 59.6%
Mariota's junior year: 68.3%

Good effort
 
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He just doesn't have it mentally. We all knew it when he was here, not sure why it would change in the league when its even more mentally demanding.
 
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AlumniChase said:
He just doesn't have it mentally. We all knew it when he was here, not sure why it would change in the league when its even more mentally demanding.
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We seem to have gotten a lot of those during this lull in the legacy. Luckily it looks like those days are behind us. Dooley and Kiffin both seem to have come from the all Davis school of scouting. Lets be clear you have to take a few shots like that every class. But in the case of those guys its like every talented recruit fell in that high ceiling high baggage/empty brain category.

I do not know CP or any of these players personally and all of them have their own stories. But tit seems in the desperation to win now we took to many risks. Butch came in and changed that whole thing he took a few shots like he should have but he had the idea to build right. Brick by Brick.You build a quality base, with leadership so that guys that come in that might have issues whether it be on the field or off they have a support structure there of guys they can respect.

Notice under Butch most of the freshmen that came in and played early were not the flashy ones. It was not the guys that had 4.1 40's and 73 inch verticals. It was the guys that came in and put their nose to the grindstone., That gave time to develop those guys that were rough around the edges and likely is what lead to the attrition of a lot of those types of personalities these past few years. Butch has proven that if you are gonna get on the field you earn it. I could name a number of guys that were red-shirted or got limited snaps that would have gotten a lot more play under other coaches. I applaud the fact that I know if a guy walks on the field he earned it. So every time Colton Jumper steps on the field I remember that. That kid has obviously earned the opportunity don't knock him because I would rather 5 Colton Jumpers in Orange and white than all the heart-breakers like JJ, Darick, Pig etc who pissed it away literally.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Was it not on this very board that we complain about Dobbs inaccurate passing...? And as I recall, in 2015, Dobbs and Mariota were both right at 62%.

Don't get me wrong. I love Mariota & Dobbs. Both can make plays with their feet.

Just forget it......an attempt at humor. The thread is about CP.
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No, Dobbs was at 59% and in college, as opposed to the NFL, but, thanks for playing.
 
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Nasavol said:
No, Dobbs was at 59% and in college, as opposed to the NFL, but, thanks for playing.
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Dobbs was at 59.6% last season his worst completion percentage (59.5 his freshman year and 63.3 his soph for a career average of 60.5% .. which seems bad till you notice his main target for the year ran a 4.8.. just saying context is a mother.

College and NFL completion percentages actually translate fairly well for QB's in a pro style system. (Which for all intents and purposes we run)
 
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pimo1 said:
Dobbs was at 59.6% last season his worst completion percentage (59.5 his freshman year and 63.3 his soph for a career average of 60.5% .. which seems bad till you notice his main target for the year ran a 4.8.. just saying context is a mother.

College and NFL completion percentages actually translate fairly well for QB's in a pro style system. (Which for all intents and purposes we run)
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Primo is da man!

Again, I like Marcus. But, the Titans had # 1 draft pick. Therefore, Marcus finished in last place in a 32 team league.
 
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utvols74 said:
Well, there were 6 KO for TDs in 2015 and CP had 2 of them. There were 12 PR for TDs in 2015. So.... BigFoot must have had a litter or something and his balls are dragging as low as mine do.
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I meant Bigfoot sightings nationwide.

That includes Lake City, Tellico Plains, Wartburg, and Newport.

However, 6 KO for TD is pretty damn rare compared to previous seasons.
 
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