Covid Fraud Thread

No, I have not.

I’m sorry if I’m challenging your perspective on the matter. Cognitive dissonance is certainly uncomfortable. If it makes you feel better to rationalize that physicians are indoctrinated pawns without the ability to think independently to support your illegitimate arguments, have at it.
Not all of them. I know many that are highly skilled and qualified. Several have admitted they were wrong to me personally. Some finally agree the AMA has been corrupted.

I don’t feel challenged you. I laugh. I pretty much have you pegged. I bet you are not in private practice. I bet you work for a healthcare system that forces you to toe the line and work within their protocols.

Like I said earlier, lack of independent thinking and being a good little minion fed the fiasco.

Basic Virology training was an abandoned for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Your profession should be ashamed.
 
Not all of them. I know many that are highly skilled and qualified. Several have admitted they were wrong to me personally. Some finally agree the AMA has been corrupted.

I don’t feel challenged you. I laugh. I pretty much have you pegged. I bet you are not in private practice. I bet you work for a healthcare system that forces you to toe the line and work within their protocols.

Like I said earlier, lack of independent thinking and being a good little minion fed the fiasco.

Basic Virology training was an abandoned for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Your profession should be ashamed.

You really have no clue. I don’t know why I waste my time responding to your drivel.
 
We’ve learned the vaccines aren’t perfect at blocking infection, especially with new variants, but the big picture is clear: they’ve massively reduced hospitalizations and deaths. Protection against catching or spreading COVID fades with time, which is why boosters matter, but every major study shows vaccinated groups have had far better outcomes than the unvaccinated. They’re not a magic shield, but they’ve saved millions of lives.

I'm curious about the phrasing "aren't perfect at blocking infection". Were they effective at all at blocking infection? Aren't perfect suggests something well above 70/80% effective.

I don't question the efficacy at mitigating the negative effects once infected but the data on preventing infection seems pretty sparse and anecdotal evidence abounds (see # of times Fauci and Wollensky became infected for notable examples) to the contrary.
 
You really have no clue. I don’t know why I waste my time responding to your drivel.
Oh I have a clue. I bet my assumptions were accurate.

You are not in private practice.
You are employed by a healthcare system.
You have use their protocols and guidelines.
99% survival rate.

I can do this as long as you want. Pack a lunch.
 
Oh I have a clue. I bet my assumptions were accurate.

You are not in private practice.
You are employed by a healthcare system.
You have use their protocols and guidelines.
99% survival rate.

I can do this as long as you want. Pack a lunch.

Don’t forget your tin foil hat.
 
I'm curious about the phrasing "aren't perfect at blocking infection". Were they effective at all at blocking infection? Aren't perfect suggests something well above 70/80% effective.

I don't question the efficacy at mitigating the negative effects once infected but the data on preventing infection seems pretty sparse and anecdotal evidence abounds (see # of times Fauci and Wollensky became infected for notable examples) to the contrary.

It’s true the vaccines weren’t perfect at blocking infection, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t effective at all. Early on, especially with the original strain and Alpha, the mRNA vaccines reduced the risk of infection by around 70–90% in the first couple months after a full series. As new variants like Delta and Omicron came along, that protection against catching the virus dropped, but it was still there, just not as prominent.

Where the data is overwhelming is in outcomes once infected: vaccinated people consistently had much lower rates of hospitalization, ICU admission, and death compared with the unvaccinated. That held true across every major study and for every variant. What matters is the population-level data, and across millions of people, vaccinated groups clearly fared better. I could care less about anecdotal data.
 
Omar's entourage ...

From the article:

A former campaign aide to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) has admitted guilt in a multimillion-dollar food fraud scheme linked to federal pandemic relief funds, drawing new attention to controversies surrounding figures in the congresswoman’s political circle.

Federal prosecutors announced that 49-year-old Guhaad Hashi Said — described by Alpha News as an “enforcer” for Omar’s campaign — pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

The guilty plea from Said highlights how the Feeding Our Future scandal continues to ensnare figures tied to Minnesota’s Democratic politics, casting renewed attention on Omar’s network at a time when her own past controversies remain a focus for critics.


 
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I saw what happened when they put patients on the vent. Good thing you didn’t have to do that.

Just thinking back on the mismanagement of this entire thing. Just awful
Long Post Jxn i hope you will bear with me. I don't care if anyone else decides to read a word.

Yup I was lucky as hell. My Pulmonologist PA was actually the one who laid it out, he advised me I would be a vent by that evening, and likely dead in 48, and that if I wanted to say anything to anyone I should go ahead and call. That sounds harsh but that was very important it allowed me to get the mental str while barely able to talk and breathe to call my dad, brother inlaw, and be for ready for death and assurances they would take care of my wife and son. To say I appreciate that frankness was an understatement, it also convinced me I would give it everything I had at that moment, I proned positions for like 2-3+ days straight, someone else had to help me pee, and my only food was a little bit through a straw that was dicey while on a bipap and after that 12 hours a for a week I proned. My spine felt like it had a knife in it (proning long term will F You up!), and I never was under 170bpm, it's like running down a steep hill and if you trip you die, but you have to do it for a week or more. I was on a bipap on the highest setting it could go to maxed out, it sounded like a jet engine (for those that don't know this is not like a home bipap this is a huge machine that forces high pressure air into your lungs) , and my bpm had been 170+ resting for like a week like I said it was an insane experience I can never truly explain to people. The bipap had reached it's limit and I was damn lucky to have it because it was the last one. other people in my situation were having to go to vent because no bipap was available, and here I was knowing people likely are dying because I have this machine.

Across town a friend of mine's brother went to the "other" hopsital and before he even was at the level to need a Bipap they immediately put him on remdesivir and the vent, the intibation process alone was enough to basically euthenize him. he had let them know he did not want the remdesivir, his family said no to it, and they gave it to him anyway cause .....money from govt!.... and he died. They (that hospital) were getting govt kickbacks for using this protocol, and killing ALOT of patients. I lucked out that my ambulance took me to Memorial instead, and I got the last bipap.

That Physicians assistant pulmonologist that was frank with me, is also who I credit with saving my life more then any other. We'd talked a couple of times personally he'd taken an interest in me I'd showed him pics of my son and wife and how much I wanted to live etc, and I guess he was tired of seeing people die, he went home and apparently was up all night checking experimental treatments etc, guy had already been on frontlines watching people die for months, he came back and got permission to give me a treatment that basically was every steroid possible and just throw them all at me and taper down. They had not done this method prior. It worked. I'm alive. I owe him my life. I asked him why I made it, and he said most people who get to where I was give up they just quit, it hurts to much. I dunno that I am tougher but I only knew I could not leave my family.

Let me tell you who actually nearly COST me my life though. I won't name names. If I wanted to sue I would have a long time ago. But My Internal Medicine Doctor who was also a board certified know it all sheep. I had already been hospitalized once had gotten over COVID so I thought, and was being sent home (too early). They cut me off steroids completely the moment I left. It was like a smoldering fire in a closed room. If you understand anything about covid and how it killed people you know what happened next. It was the cytokine storm that was killing people, when your lungs attack themselves. I Immediately went to see him upon getting out he looked over all my meds but did not think once about the stoppage of steroids (this was common knowledge, and probably worthy of a lawsuit) even though they knew this was the issue coast to coast and even nurses knew it. I immediately got worse and worse, and I came back and his response was to put me on antibiots because maybe I had another infection. This after a c-scan taht showed my lungs as solid white inflamed horror show. I was coughing so bad literally people were coming out of other rooms to see what was going on and this ****er gave me antibiotics and see ya in a month as a response a couple of days later my oxygen plummeted to 40 and I nearly died at home in bed when ambulance got there, all I could hear was the thunder of my heart. the oxygen the medic gave me barely got there in time. When they saw my treatment at hospital they were like who the hell is was this physician. He was a BOARD CERTIFIED INTERNAL MEDICINE doctor. He is apart of a healthcare practice that MANY people use that is SUPPOSED to be really good. Also never did anything beyond what official AMA says....absolute sheep......I should have never gone back to hospital much less full blown cytokine storm etc......he dropped the fing ball, it never occured to me to sue that's not what my fam usually does, I have many medical professionals in the family and it's just not how we think. But yeah my faith in him and the majority of doctors were dead after that.

I turned the corner and was so wasted away I had to go to rehab to learn to walk again, I had always had huge legs i used to push like 800 lbs on leg lifts. Now they looked like arms not legs. I had been in hospital counting 1st and 2nd and then rehab about 3 months in total. I was on oxygen for a year when I got out, took alot of PT to get mobile, and regain muscle and leg strength. Luckily I left that dumb ass Internist and found a old country doc Who had been on the bleeding edge of covid treatment the entire time, via ivermectin, hydrochloroquine etc. He also was one of the first to realize benefit of NAC and LDN for recovery.....he was reading research daily, and I don't think one of his patients died. When he wasn't seeingh patients he was reading papers, and he has consitantly been ahead of the curve at every step for treating long term issues. He I credit for getting me back to normal after a LTC battle that was about 2 years after going home. If he'd been my doctor before I'd have never even been hospitalized. the Interernist that nearly got me killed I am sure would call him a kook.

I may not be a doctor but I have read just about everything you can read on this with papers, studies etc. I lived it, I know what worked and what didn't. The one thing that has changed forever is trusting someone knows what their talking about just because of a degree, title or certification and in the end I know it was the Pulmonologist PA staying up at home after already working a nightmare shift looking for any new possible treatment and getting no sleep and not the actual Dr who saved my life. But also the TEAM of Doctors at a hospital that allowed them to do their job, where the admin hadn't forced them to euthenize patients via CDC protocols for government paychecks.

So it doesn't surprise me when some "I can do no wrong" Dr with a deity complex comes in and still defends the indefensible. They know they killed people, they may have even killed family members...they're still living with that. They refuse to admit they were wrong. They do not want to hear or see evidence to the contrary. To do so would be to face their guilt.
 
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Long Post Jxn i hope you will bear with me. I don't care if anyone else decides to read a word.

Yup I was lucky as hell. My Pulmonologist PA was actually the one who laid it out, he advised me I would be a vent by that evening, and likely dead in 48, and that if I wanted to say anything to anyone I should go ahead and call. That sounds harsh but that was very important it allowed me to get the mental str while barely able to talk and breathe to call my dad, brother inlaw, and be for ready for death and assurances they would take care of my wife and son. To say I appreciate that frankness was an understatement, it also convinced me I would give it everything I had at that moment, I proned positions for like 2-3+ days straight, someone else had to help me pee, and my only food was a little bit through a straw that was dicey while on a bipap and after that 12 hours a for a week I proned. My spine felt like it had a knife in it (proning long term will F You up!), and I never was under 170bpm, it's like running down a steep hill and if you trip you die, but you have to do it for a week or more. I was on a bipap on the highest setting it could go to maxed out, it sounded like a jet engine (for those that don't know this is not like a home bipap this is a huge machine that forces high pressure air into your lungs) , and my bpm had been 170+ resting for like a week like I said it was an insane experience I can never truly explain to people. The bipap had reached it's limit and I was damn lucky to have it because it was the last one. other people in my situation were having to go to vent because no bipap was available, and here I was knowing people likely are dying because I have this machine.

Across town a friend of mine's brother went to the "other" hopsital and before he even was at the level to need a Bipap they immediately put him on remdesivir and the vent, the intibation process alone was enough to basically euthenize him. he had let them know he did not want the remdesivir, his family said no to it, and they gave it to him anyway cause .....money from govt!.... and he died. They (that hospital) were getting govt kickbacks for using this protocol, and killing ALOT of patients. I lucked out that my ambulance took me to Memorial instead, and I got the last bipap.

That Physicians assistant pulmonologist that was frank with me, is also who I credit with saving my life more then any other. We'd talked a couple of times personally he'd taken an interest in me I'd showed him pics of my son and wife and how much I wanted to live etc, and I guess he was tired of seeing people die, he went home and apparently was up all night checking experimental treatments etc, guy had already been on frontlines watching people die for months, he came back and got permission to give me a treatment that basically was every steroid possible and just throw them all at me and taper down. They had not done this method prior. It worked. I'm alive. I owe him my life. I asked him why I made it, and he said most people who get to where I was give up they just quit, it hurts to much. I dunno that I am tougher but I only knew I could not leave my family.

Let me tell you who actually nearly COST me my life though. I won't name names. If I wanted to sue I would have a long time ago. But My Internal Medicine Doctor who was also a board certified know it all sheep. I had already been hospitalized once had gotten over COVID so I thought, and was being sent home (too early). They cut me off steroids completely the moment I left. It was like a smoldering fire in a closed room. If you understand anything about covid and how it killed people you know what happened next. It was the cytokine storm that was killing people, when your lungs attack themselves. I Immediately went to see him upon getting out he looked over all my meds but did not think once about the stoppage of steroids (this was common knowledge, and probably worthy of a lawsuit) even though they knew this was the issue coast to coast and even nurses knew it. I immediately got worse and worse, and I came back and his response was to put me on antibiots because maybe I had another infection. This after a c-scan taht showed my lungs as solid white inflamed horror show. I was coughing so bad literally people were coming out of other rooms to see what was going on and this ****er gave me antibiotics and see ya in a month as a response a couple of days later my oxygen plummeted to 40 and I nearly died at home in bed when ambulance got there, all I could hear was the thunder of my heart. the oxygen the medic gave me barely got there in time. When they saw my treatment at hospital they were like who the hell is was this physician. He was a BOARD CERTIFIED INTERNAL MEDICINE doctor. He is apart of a healthcare practice that MANY people use that is SUPPOSED to be really good. Also never did anything beyond what official AMA says....absolute sheep......I should have never gone back to hospital much less full blown cytokine storm etc......he dropped the fing ball, it never occured to me to sue that's not what my fam usually does, I have many medical professionals in the family and it's just not how we think. But yeah my faith in him and the majority of doctors were dead after that.

I turned the corner and was so wasted away I had to go to rehab to learn to walk again, I had always had huge legs i used to push like 800 lbs on leg lifts. Now they looked like arms not legs. I had been in hospital counting 1st and 2nd and then rehab about 3 months in total. I was on oxygen for a year when I got out, took alot of PT to get mobile, and regain muscle and leg strength. Luckily I left that dumb ass Internist and found a old country doc Who had been on the bleeding edge of covid treatment the entire time, via ivermectin, hydrochloroquine etc. He also was one of the first to realize benefit of NAC and LDN for recovery.....he was reading research daily, and I don't think one of his patients died. When he wasn't seeingh patients he was reading papers, and he has consitantly been ahead of the curve at every step for treating long term issues. He I credit for getting me back to normal after a LTC battle that was about 2 years after going home. If he'd been my doctor before I'd have never even been hospitalized. the Interernist that nearly got me killed I am sure would call him a kook.

I may not be a doctor but I have read just about everything you can read on this with papers, studies etc. I lived it, I know what worked and what didn't. The one thing that has changed forever is trusting someone knows what their talking about just because of a degree, title or certification and in the end I know it was the Pulmonologist PA staying up at home after already working a nightmare shift looking for any new possible treatment and getting no sleep and not the actual Dr who saved my life. But also the TEAM of Doctors at a hospital that allowed them to do their job, where the admin hadn't forced them to euthenize patients via CDC protocols for government paychecks.

So it doesn't surprise me when some "I can do no wrong" Dr with a deity complex comes in and still defends the indefensible. They know they killed people, they may have even killed family members...they're still living with that. They refuse to admit they were wrong. They do not want to hear or see evidence to the contrary. To do so would be to face their guilt.
I am so sorry. One of the worst effects of Covid was how quickly clinicians abandoned basic virology protocols. It’s like they chose to be dumb.

I had a surgeon friend that told me I was the problem for refusing the shot. Now he is dealing with several issues after taking 2 shots and 2 boosters. We don’t talk about it anymore. But he knows.

On the flip side I found a few folks that earned my respect. And if I ever need anything I know who to see.
 
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That was the guy who had his license suspended for talking parents out of childhood vaccinations, and even told people not to get tetanus vaccines.
 
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This thread is an interesting illustration of the Dunning-Kruger effect. For anyone who is not aware of this…

The Dunning–Kruger Effect is a cognitive bias where people with low ability, knowledge, or expertise in a certain area:

1) Overestimate their own competence, and
2) Fail to recognize their own lack of knowledge.

Put simply: you don’t know enough to know what you don’t know.
 
This thread is an interesting illustration of the Dunning-Kruger effect. For anyone who is not aware of this…

The Dunning–Kruger Effect is a cognitive bias where people with low ability, knowledge, or expertise in a certain area:

1) Overestimate their own competence, and
2) Fail to recognize their own lack of knowledge.

Put simply: you don’t know enough to know what you don’t know.
☝️ This is called arrogance and educated ignorance. Your profession abandoned basic virology protocols for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Y’all pushed protocols that killed people. And pushed a shot that you called a vaccine with no long term safety data.

Come on. Did you really tell people to wear a mask that wouldn’t prevent the virus from passage. Oh and let’s not forget that 6 foot BS.

Yall lost so much credibility and that’s why we view yall as clowns. I actually have a picture on my phone of the chief of surgery in my town walking around outside wearing a mask. Forgive us for not taking some of yall seriously anymore.
 
☝️ This is called arrogance and educated ignorance. Your profession abandoned basic virology protocols for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Y’all pushed protocols that killed people. And pushed a shot that you called a vaccine with no long term safety data.

Come on. Did you really tell people to wear a mask that wouldn’t prevent the virus from passage. Oh and let’s not forget that 6 foot BS.

Yall lost so much credibility and that’s why we view yall as clowns. I actually have a picture on my phone of the chief of surgery in my town walking around outside wearing a mask. Forgive us for not taking some of yall seriously anymore.

It’s important to separate evolving science from “indoctrination.” COVID wasn’t just about survival rates, millions still died, and many more live with long-term complications. Vaccines weren’t rushed through without safety checks; they went through the same clinical trial phases as every other vaccine, just faster because of funding and global urgency. And yes, guidance on masks and distancing changed, that wasn’t incompetence, that was science adjusting to new evidence. That’s how medicine works: when we learn more, we update recommendations. Losing trust in the process because guidance evolved is understandable, but dismissing the entire medical profession ignores the fact that those same protocols and vaccines saved millions of lives.
 
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It’s important to separate evolving science from “indoctrination.” COVID wasn’t just about survival rates, millions still died, and many more live with long-term complications. Vaccines weren’t rushed through without safety checks; they went through the same clinical trial phases as every other vaccine, just faster because of funding and global urgency. And yes, guidance on masks and distancing changed, that wasn’t incompetence, that was science adjusting to new evidence. That’s how medicine works: when we learn more, we update recommendations. Losing trust in the process because guidance evolved is understandable, but dismissing the entire medical profession ignores the fact that those same protocols and vaccines saved millions of lives.
I am not dismissing the entire profession. I know that many clinicians in your profession didn’t panicking and leaned on their virology training.

There was no long term safety data. You can’t speed that process up. Are you sure you know what long term safety data is?

And don’t get me started on the Pfizer shot bait and switch. Folks don’t remember the version the FDA pushed to approve wasn’t what what being given to patients.

Try again to gain justification
 
I am not dismissing the entire profession. I know that many clinicians in your profession didn’t panicking and leaned on their virology training.

There was no long term safety data. You can’t speed that process up. Are you sure you know what long term safety data is?

And don’t get me started on the Pfizer shot bait and switch. Folks don’t remember the version the FDA pushed to approve wasn’t what what being given to patients.

Try again to gain justification

Long-term safety data in medicine doesn’t mean waiting 10 years. Historically, serious adverse events from vaccines show up within the first few months. That’s why the trials had at least 2 months of follow-up before EUA, and then real-world use gave us data on millions more. Today, we have years of follow-up and no hidden long-term harms have emerged. And regarding Pfizer, Comirnaty and the EUA version were the same formulation — the delay was regulatory and labeling, not a “bait and switch.” It’s fine to question and want data, but dismissing safety outright ignores the massive amount of evidence we now have.
 
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Long-term safety data in medicine doesn’t mean waiting 10 years. Historically, serious adverse events from vaccines show up within the first few months. That’s why the trials had at least 2 months of follow-up before EUA, and then real-world use gave us data on millions more. Today, we have years of follow-up and no hidden long-term harms have emerged. And regarding Pfizer, Comirnaty and the EUA version were the same formulation — the delay was regulatory and labeling, not a “bait and switch.” It’s fine to question and want data, but dismissing safety outright ignores the massive amount of evidence we now have.
Long term safety data was bastardized by medicine. I’m sorry but you are looking foolish claiming a few months is adequate for long term safety data. Just admit it was wrong.

It turned into a bait and switch when mandates were implemented. There were mandates instituted for a shot that the FDA rushed to approve. And the version they approved was not available. Therefore it was in fact a bait and switch.

As long as it was voluntary then I have no problem with anyone injecting whatever they want. The mandates were wrong. Now tell us how your profession stood by and watched it happen.
 
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Long term safety data was bastardized by medicine. I’m sorry but you are looking foolish claiming a few months is adequate for long term safety data. Just admit it was wrong.

It turned into a bait and switch when mandates were implemented. There were mandates instituted for a shot that the FDA rushed to approve. And the version they approved was not available. Therefore it was in fact a bait and switch.

As long as it was voluntary then I have no problem with anyone injecting whatever they want. The mandates were wrong. Now tell us how your profession stood by and watched it happen.

It seems like whatever I wrote went over your head. I’ll rephrase if that helps, as all you did was say that I was foolish without any actual response. In medicine, “long-term safety” doesn’t necessarily mean waiting 10+ years. Most serious vaccine side effects historically occur within the first 6–8 weeks. That’s why regulators required at least 2 months of follow-up before the EUA. Since then, we now have years of follow-up and data from hundreds of millions of doses worldwide. No new long-term safety signal has emerged.

The EUA formulation and Comirnaty are the same product. The difference was regulatory approval and labeling, not the actual contents of the vaccine. There was no swap in the formulation. Calling it a “bait and switch” misrepresents what happened.

Mandates were government/employer policy decisions, not medical ones. There were physicians that debated them too. But the profession broadly recommended vaccination because the data showed it reduced hospitalization and death. That recommendation was based on evidence, not politics.
 
It seems like whatever I wrote went over your head. I’ll rephrase if that helps, as all you did was say that I was foolish without any actual response. In medicine, “long-term safety” doesn’t necessarily mean waiting 10+ years. Most serious vaccine side effects historically occur within the first 6–8 weeks. That’s why regulators required at least 2 months of follow-up before the EUA. Since then, we now have years of follow-up and data from hundreds of millions of doses worldwide. No new long-term safety signal has emerged.

The EUA formulation and Comirnaty are the same product. The difference was regulatory approval and labeling, not the actual contents of the vaccine. There was no swap in the formulation. Calling it a “bait and switch” misrepresents what happened.

Mandates were government/employer policy decisions, not medical ones. There were physicians that debated them too. But the profession broadly recommended vaccination because the data showed it reduced hospitalization and death. That recommendation was based on evidence, not politics.
☝️This is exactly what I expected. The government coerced business and hospitals with the threat of compliance and loss of funding to mandate the shot.

I don’t care if they are the same product. They were mandating something that was unavailable.

That alone is proof it was rushed. Your definition of long term safety data is wrong. I have a line of metal on metal hips that you may want when you need a replacement. Just ignore the squeaking and metalosis in the joint.

Oh and remember 99% survival rate.
 
☝️This is exactly what I expected. The government coerced business and hospitals with the threat of compliance and loss of funding to mandate the shot.

I don’t care if they are the same product. They were mandating something that was unavailable.

That alone is proof it was rushed. Your definition of long term safety data is wrong. I have a line of metal on metal hips that you may want when you need a replacement. Just ignore the squeaking and metalosis in the joint.

Oh and remember 99% survival rate.

Mandates were employer/government policy decisions, not evidence that the vaccines were unsafe. The medical recommendation came from broad data showing reduced hospitalizations and deaths.

That’s factually incorrect. Comirnaty and the EUA product were the same formulation. The “availability” issue was purely regulatory labeling, not the actual contents of the vaccine.

Regulatory speed ≠ lack of safety. The mRNA platform had over a decade of research, and tens of thousands of trial participants were studied before authorization. Since then, billions of doses have been given with no new long-term safety signals.

As for your metal analogy, it doesn’t hold. Orthopedic implants are mechanical devices subject to wear and tear over years. Vaccines are biological agents that don’t remain in the body long-term. They can’t “squeak” or erode, the comparison is misleading.

A 1% fatality rate still meant millions of deaths worldwide. More importantly, survival doesn’t capture the full picture: vaccines prevented countless hospitalizations and ICU stays. Reducing severe disease was the central goal, and the data clearly show they achieved that.
 
It’s actually quite simple. There’s only one real way to science, and if you don’t actually science, but create your own manipulated version of science, that’s called pseudoscience. Those people are quacks, grifters, opportunists, or innocently deluded.
Science was corrupted in FauciFlu days by big pharma. You were too close to it to see it objectively.
 
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