Couple of crazy rumors floating around...

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Skeeter even commented about whether the video exists?

Do you think they keep all the video they shoot of each and every practice session?

I hope they don't have it because of how wussified of a country we now live in, people would lose their minds seeing a coach yell and cuss at a player.

I said last night that this was probably exactly the case and the Crowders are smearing the program, so until SteelerVol wants to make a statement towards what Skeeter has said, I'm standing by that.
 
So many supposed witnesses but so precious little evidence either way.

"Life is a circle"

hmmmmmm

It's football, sometimes it gets ugly. What happened between those two has probably happened a couple hundred times this week across the country in regards to hs and college football. Noway did Butch Jones punch a player and being allowed to walk the sidelines at Neyland.
 
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Why don't you add skeeters entire quotes to your "facts". Doesn't fit the motive?

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So Crowder is loafing and has a sense of entitlement because he's a sr. Jones grabs him by the jersey and basically tells him to stop being an effin **ssy and do his job. Crowder barks back, then Jones grabs his by the facemask and tells him for being a sr he sets a very poor example for his team mates and needs to grow a sack. A few other things were said as well but no need to get into that. But some how this leads to Jones punched Crowder and a video supports said claim?
lol imo half of the upperclassman olinemen should be thankful they're playing because they're being out worked by the younger guys. Wish Tennessee had about 4 more Jack Jone's, that kid is nasty nasty nasty.
 
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You've watched too much MSNBC where no one actually reports the ugly side of the news cause the "masses can't handle it" or it paints our emperor in a bad light. Asking a question that may effectively cost you your job is a bold move.

Let's please stop acting like Stokes is some modern day Upton Sinclair...
 
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I said that earlier...so somebody is pulling strings. Why?

Me too. Maybe Butch pulled a Kiffin with one of the boosters' wives. Ha, we know that doubtfully happened.

Seriously either he has teed off somebody or somebody sees an opportunity. I find it hard to believe that somebody would try to bring him down out of sheer spite, but there are those types out there.
 
One of 2 types of altercation happened here it seems:

1) cbj struck or punched a player

OR

2) CBJ was involved in a heated verbal conformation where he did lay his hands on a player. This is skeeters and others story.


Either way there is ZERO good that cAn come of releasing the video of the incident.

Make a statement that there was no wrong doing found and move on but we damn sure don't need such a video out there for recruiting against us.

But Gunner says it didnt happen and there is no evidence that any altercation occurred because MC, nor his father will release a denial or confirmation of the incident. And additionally because SteelerVol will not respond to his rabid interrogation despite the fact that SteelerVol has posted numerous times within this thread about the incident and what was related to him.
 
Besides the drama queens on here, who would have an interest in seeing the program continue to struggle?

Well...somebody put the info out. And a confirmation of a video, whether it shows anything or not, had to come from inside

Nobody here wants to see the team struggle....and as for the drama queen crack, you're projecting.
 
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I will comment and say that last season the environment inside the locker was extremely toxic. There was almost a full on revolt in which resulted in players transferring. Coaches on staff basically came to Butch and told him had to change the way he treated and talked to players. He had a "come to Jesus" moment with the team in the lead up to fall camp and the supposed incident that cause 3 offensive linemen to not go to practice for 2 days.

Are these the same 3 OL who are getting their ass kicked every critical down? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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Well...somebody put the info out. And a confirmation of a video, whether it shows anything or not, had to come from inside

Nobody here wants to see the team struggle....and as for the drama queen crack, you're projecting.

It most certainly was strategically leaked at a weak time for Butch.
 
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No doubt about it

Hell they keep sleep records for goodness sakes.

Well you have a point there......Forgot about the freaking sleep coaches......

That said if there was an altercation and it was caught on tape it will not see the light of day.

I would suspect that the AD would release a statement as you suggested to quash it. I do find it interesting that it came out at this juncture - seems like a move that someone would make to gain position or advantage.
 
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Boro, I believe your sources hate UT. Seems they have failed you again and now you are backtracking

What are you talking about? I'm not part of this story. The only thing I stated was a meeting was called at an irregular time Sunday night. I'm just part of the discussion, and giving my opinion.
 
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I hope they don't have it because of how wussified of a country we now live in, people would lose their minds seeing a coach yell and cuss at a player.

I said last night that this was probably exactly the case and the Crowders are smearing the program, so until SteelerVol wants to make a statement towards what Skeeter has said, I'm standing by that.

What exactly do you think the Crowders' would stand to gain by smearing the program or MC for that matter. If that is the motivation then why would they wait this long to attempt to smear the program. Why not "blow the lid off" when it occurred - when MC and at least two other players walked off the field. The media reported their absence. Would have been the perfect time to drop a bomb on ol Butch.....
 
What are you talking about? I'm not part of this story. The only thing I stated was a meeting was called at an irregular time Sunday night. I'm just part of the discussion, and giving my opinion.

What became of this meeting, surely you know or had to be curious given your closeness to the "situation"?
 
So Crowder is loafing and has a sense of entitlement because he's a sr. Jones grabs him by the jersey and basically tells him to stop being an effin **ssy and do his job. Crowder barks back, then Jones grabs his by the facemask and tells him for being a sr he sets a very poor example for his team mates and needs to grow a sack. A few other things were said as well but no need to get into that. But some how this leads to Jones punched Crowder and a video supports said claim?
lol imo half of the upperclassman olinemen should be thankful they're playing because they're being out worked by the younger guys. Wish Tennessee had about 4 more Jack Jone's, that kid is nasty nasty nasty.

Thanks for posting- miss seeing you around here.
 
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Well...somebody put the info out. And a confirmation of a video, whether it shows anything or not, had to come from inside

Nobody here wants to see the team struggle....and as for the drama queen crack, you're projecting.

Let's just say I have reliable sources, and leave it at that.:)
 
What became of this meeting, surely you know or had to be curious given your closeness to the "situation"?

Hell if I know....

I go to church with a player. He got a text and had to leave out early for a team meeting. DeerPark said later they always meet on Sunday night, but the time had gotten moved up unexpectedly. Never heard what it was about. I won't see said player again until Sunday night.
 
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But Gunner says it didnt happen and there is no evidence that any altercation occurred because MC, nor his father will release a denial or confirmation of the incident. And additionally because SteelerVol will not respond to his rabid interrogation despite the fact that SteelerVol has posted numerous times within this thread about the incident and what was related to him.

I asked Steeler if he would mind telling us if he saw this or heard directly or through a family member. No names etc... needed.
I thought he must have answered after reading your post.
I'm not sure what you are talking about but I just clicked on Steelers posts.
He gave no info whatsoever... about anything... other than just saying "it happened".
Do you mind to clarify what was related to him?
 
With all the bad coaching decisions and perceived incompetence, it seems the offensive line is a real piece of work.
 
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