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With the way Dooley has seemingly upgraded this coaching staff even under the given circumstances, and alongside our excellent recruiting class that we will officially have on February first, I can't help but feel like this could be cause for a bit of optimism in Big Orange Country. I can't help allude to 1984, when the Vols would go on to a 7-4-1 record and lose the Sun Bowl to Maryland. Perhaps the most vivid memory, however, would be our 17-12 loss to Kentucky. Until 2011 that would be the only time in a 26 year drought by the Cats that they would beat the Vols. The next year the Vols came back with a vengance, winning the SEC Championship and then laying the wood to the second-ranked Miami Hurricanes in the Sugar Bowl. I'm sort of rambling in this post I guess, but my point is, history has a way of repeating itself, ladies and gentlemen.
 
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Appreciate your optimism and your historical perspective.

Wish nothing but the best for Coach Dooley and any other coach at the University of Tennessee.

GBO!
 
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PalardyLikeARockstar said:
With the way Dooley has seemingly upgraded this coaching staff even under the given circumstances, and alongside our excellent recruiting class that we will officially have on February first, I can't help but feel like this could be cause for a bit of optimism in Big Orange Country. I can't help allude to 1984, when the Vols would go on to a 7-4-1 record and lose the Sun Bowl to Maryland. Perhaps the most vivid memory, however, would be our 17-12 loss to Kentucky. Until 2011 that would be the only time in a 26 year drought by the Cats that they would beat the Vols. The next year the Vols came back with a vengance, winning the SEC Championship and then laying the wood to the second-ranked Miami Hurricanes in the Sugar Bowl. I'm sort of rambling in this post I guess, but my point is, history has a way of repeating itself, ladies and gentlemen.
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I am optimistic also but we must out recruit the other S.E.C. schools. If we are # 15 in recruiting, yet are below 5 other S.E.C. schools, will that be enough to compete for the S.E.C. championship????
 
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I don't believe Dooley is going to be fired after next season, and I was one of the folks calling for his firing after the UK loss. The way they played after Hunter went down and the lousy scheme on offense made it seem hopeless. Add in the attitude problems and it all stank.

However, Hart began to do what a seasoned, good AD does. The Trustees and major donors supported Dooley, wanted it all to work, and opened the checkbook for better coaches as the attrition began. Dooley started listening better to what Hart and others inside said to do. The new hires of Dooley and Hart are very encouraging. The admission that there will be an offensive line blocking scheme change with a position coach that knows how to do it and recruit good players at the same time will be a major plus. With Bray and Hunter back full steam and the Big 3 having a year to grow up some more, yet adding Croome and Bowles as their back-ups is also very big. More competition at RB with CJG as a proven coach of the position, where there was none for the past two seasons. Add in CSS, who will also take LBs, along with McCullers and Sentimore to go with Couch on the D-line. Two guys that can come in and improve the D on Day One. Getting McNeil for the secondary is big - the kid can flat play. What can you say about the LBs but outstanding talent will be on the roster. Another year in McKeef's S&C program.

I could care less about how Rivals or any other service rates anybody. Look at their measureables and watch their film. See who they are playing against. Realize that 80+% of the recruits they have committed along with all of the others they are after have schollie offers out the ying yang from SEC and other national programs. Understand that on D, Sal was recruiting many of the same guys our coaches were. It's the development and heart that matters. If it wasn't, then there would not be approx 60% of the NFL players having 3* or less ratings coming out of high school.
 
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smokey79 said:
Dooley still is gonna get fired after next season. It's simply meant to be.
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How is it "simply meant to be?" The only thing that's obvious here is that you have no clue what you're talking about. But, being a Celtic fan like you are I am NOT surprised.

Get your facts together before you start spewing off at the mouth. If you had some factual information to back that up then maybe your post would be worth reading. Your ignorance is not welcomed here.

(if you're being sarcastic then forget everything above and pat yourself on the back from me)
 
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PalardyLikeARockstar said:
With the way Dooley has seemingly upgraded this coaching staff even under the given circumstances, and alongside our excellent recruiting class that we will officially have on February first, I can't help but feel like this could be cause for a bit of optimism in Big Orange Country. I can't help allude to 1984, when the Vols would go on to a 7-4-1 record and lose the Sun Bowl to Maryland. Perhaps the most vivid memory, however, would be our 17-12 loss to Kentucky. Until 2011 that would be the only time in a 26 year drought by the Cats that they would beat the Vols. The next year the Vols came back with a vengance, winning the SEC Championship and then laying the wood to the second-ranked Miami Hurricanes in the Sugar Bowl. I'm sort of rambling in this post I guess, but my point is, history has a way of repeating itself, ladies and gentlemen.
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based on this public display optimism. i would suggest we put our big or cup on. because there is usually i big kick in the nuts after a public display like this one.
 
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I'm just glad the AD has publicly announced youth is no longer an excuse for losing. We've been using it for the last 5 miserable years. It's put up or shut up time.
 
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Rudy123 said:
I am optimistic also but we must out recruit the other S.E.C. schools. If we are # 15 in recruiting, yet are below 5 other S.E.C. schools, will that be enough to compete for the S.E.C. championship????
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Yes. You have to get the talent. OTOH, you can't get too locked up with the ratings and rankings.

Rivals refused to bump Sentimore leaving him a 5.7 3*. Out of HS he was a 5.9 4*. He had earned PT at Bama before leaving over a disciplinary issue that does not seem to have anything to do with playing ability.

Santos tore the UA game practice week up and played well in the game. IIRC, Rivals cites his weight and speed as concerns even though he weighed in about 20 lbs lighter than they list him at the UA game... and has a very impressive offer list.

That ranking is lowered a little by a guy like Blanc... who to me looks at least worthy of 3* based on speed alone. For a melanin challenged individual, he also has a little wiggle.


The ratings and rankings mean "something" but they do not mean everything. The difference between the top 5 or 6 classes is usually not more than two or three guys out of 25 being overrated or underrated. NONE of the services are that accurate.
 
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For what little it might be worth... Arkansas' best class in the 5 years leading up to the '11 season... ranked 7th in the SEC.
 
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PalardyLikeARockstar said:
With the way Dooley has seemingly upgraded this coaching staff even under the given circumstances, and alongside our excellent recruiting class that we will officially have on February first, I can't help but feel like this could be cause for a bit of optimism in Big Orange Country. I can't help allude to 1984, when the Vols would go on to a 7-4-1 record and lose the Sun Bowl to Maryland. Perhaps the most vivid memory, however, would be our 17-12 loss to Kentucky. Until 2011 that would be the only time in a 26 year drought by the Cats that they would beat the Vols. The next year the Vols came back with a vengance, winning the SEC Championship and then laying the wood to the second-ranked Miami Hurricanes in the Sugar Bowl. I'm sort of rambling in this post I guess, but my point is, history has a way of repeating itself, ladies and gentlemen.
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I appreciate your optimism. That's a hard thing to come by in this forum nowadays. Hope to see the beginning of another 26 year win streak over UK and a repeat of that 90's dominance we so desperately want and need. If Dooley isnt the right guy then so be it. He laid the foundation with some great talent to be worked with for the next guy. GBO
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. You have to get the talent. OTOH, you can't get too locked up with the ratings and rankings.

Rivals refused to bump Sentimore leaving him a 5.7 3*. Out of HS he was a 5.9 4*. He had earned PT at Bama before leaving over a disciplinary issue that does not seem to have anything to do with playing ability.

Santos tore the UA game practice week up and played well in the game. IIRC, Rivals cites his weight and speed as concerns even though he weighed in about 20 lbs lighter than they list him at the UA game... and has a very impressive offer list.

That ranking is lowered a little by a guy like Blanc... who to me looks at least worthy of 3* based on speed alone. For a melanin challenged individual, he also has a little wiggle.


The ratings and rankings mean "something" but they do not mean everything. The difference between the top 5 or 6 classes is usually not more than two or three guys out of 25 being overrated or underrated. NONE of the services are that accurate.
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Yes, but the teams teams that are ranked near the top are usually the best teams. I know you can find some that highly ranked and not that good and vice versa, but for the most part that is the way it is.
 
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Volswin98 said:
Yes, but the teams teams that are ranked near the top are usually the best teams. I know you can find some that highly ranked and not that good and vice versa, but for the most part that is the way it is.
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Arkansas was no worse than the 4th best team in the SEC in '11. Their 4 year avg was below 6th in the SEC.

USCe was the second best team in the East and maybe the best if not for UGA's lame schedule. Their 4 year avg was below 6th.

Auburn avg'd around 5th or so leading up to their NC.

The rule seems to work best for Bama, LSU, Vandy, and UK. It does not seem to work as well for the 8 teams in the middle.


You have to find talent. You have to develop talent. You have to keep that talent on your roster. UT is where it is primarily because Fulmer recruited a bunch of talented guys who could not stay on the team because of character and academic issues.

Example: LSU in the 5 classes leading up to this fall avg'd finishing 3.2 in the SEC. UT avg'd finishing 4.6. That is NOT a huge difference. The big difference is the number of highly talented players that stayed on the respective rosters to contribute.
 
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joevol320 said:
based on this public display optimism. i would suggest we put our big or cup on. because there is usually i big kick in the nuts after a public display like this one.
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A few days ago he would have...Can't you feel positive waves from VN today? :loco:
 
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tvolsfan said:
How many games do you think Tennessee is going to win this year?
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I think they should win all four OOC games.

I think they should beat Vandy and UK without much question

I think they should win at least 2 of 5 vs MSU, UGA, UF, USCe, and Mizzou.... but actually lean a little more toward 3.

I do not think the roster has caught up with Bama sufficiently yet but I would say it is closer than anytime since Saban's first year there.


So I guess that comes to 8 or 9 barring some kind of catastrophic injury on par with Hunter last year... though I think they should be able to absorb that much better than in '11.


I have said repeatedly that 7 wins probably gets Dooley '13 but with howls of displeasure from many fans. However I see no reason why this team should not win an absolute minimum of 8 games. If they don't then I will be satisfied that Dooley isn't the right guy. (I am and have been undecided to this point).
 
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I think this team is better than the 4 OOC opponents, UK, Vandy, MSU, Missouri, and Florida.

I think this season is a failure if Tennessee isn't above .500 in conference play.
 
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sjt18 said:
For what little it might be worth... Arkansas' best class in the 5 years leading up to the '11 season... ranked 7th in the SEC.
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Let me know when they win an SEC championship. They can't even get to the game unless Bama is banned.
 
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