Coronavirus (No politics)

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Acuna_Matata said:
This may be what he was talking about, but you can always look it up yourself
FACT CHECK: Did Bill Gates Admit Vaccinations Are Designed So Governments Can Depopulate the World?
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From linked article:
Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates is interested in keeping more children alive in order to reduce the need for parents to have more children, thus limiting the overall population growth rate.
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I tried looking it up, btw. As suspected, didnt find anything
 
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davethevol said:
Bill Gates said there were too many people in the world and that lots of people needed to die off for the Earth to survive. I wouldn’t trust any vaccines he’s pushing.
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Do what?!?

Im not even sure i want to know what conspiracy theory this stems from.

I hate MS products but I admire Bill Gates for his philanthropic work, particularly in the development of vaccines and trying to improve health and wellbeing in poverty stricken areas of the world. He’s been warning against a pandemic like this for years. Why would he do that if he thinks the population needs to die off?
 
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VolnJC said:
The IHME study is garbage... yesterday they projected TN would need 4k beds...actual count 290...AL projection 7.5k...actual count 215...The IHME claims AL will need 27k beds in 12 days.. they currently have 1.6k total cases....they would need to have over 200k for that prediction...that's more than NY and NJ combined plus more than. Italy or Spain
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I am beginning to see that the information we are getting is garbage from IHME because it has not been updated for a week...so who knows. It has been what the WH used and continues to do so and the actual numbers are below the projected means which could translate into several reasons... Sometimes we have too much info, not enough info, garbage info and a whole bunch of idiots interpreting the data....at both extremes of which none of us know who is right or wrong....

Let's not forget the propaganda machines in action also Overreaction, UnderReaction with zero forward thinking.... What info we get is not Outside the Box but there is a group out there somewhere I pray that is thinking outside of the Box....
 
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utvols88 said:
lol at Florida being "untrustworthy"
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All I heard from several Floridians in the know was that Spring Break had to occur because of the Bottom Line --- Money and Revenue for the State. This is why they were so slow to act. Then they sent the kids back home now they locking down their border and took a week to dock two cruise ships. Gimme a Break...
 
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Our COVID-19 patient passed away over night, so our facility mortality rate is 100%. He’s the only positive test we’ve had as well. Not sure how many have been tested overall.
 
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VolnJC said:
The IHME study is garbage... yesterday they projected TN would need 4k beds...actual count 290...AL projection 7.5k...actual count 215...The IHME claims AL will need 27k beds in 12 days.. they currently have 1.6k total cases....they would need to have over 200k for that prediction...that's more than NY and NJ combined plus more than. Italy or Spain
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Again, What we know is that TN is testing testing testing. What we don't know is how aggressive the other states are with their test and how accurate the test were at the beginning when untrained personal were administrating the test. I had an employee test negative Ck on here daily for 3 weeks she was in a living hell. They called her yesterday to see if she had recovered....from what a Negative Test as she was told no you were positive.... I left her at home and she still is at home and being paid full salary...
 
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Regulator said:
Our COVID-19 patient passed away over night, so our facility mortality rate is 100%. He’s the only positive test we’ve had as well. Not sure how many have been tested overall.
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Dang, that sucks. Are you able to share age or comorbid conditions?
 
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Sudden Impact said:
All I heard from several Floridians in the know was that Spring Break had to occur because of the Bottom Line --- Money and Revenue for the State. This is why they were so slow to act. Then they sent the kids back home now they locking down their border and took a week to dock two cruise ships. Gimme a Break...
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I'm in Florida. Alot of small businesses rely on tourism so shutting it down has to be more than necessary. It's the backbone of Florida. Its not like Florida was operating weeks after everyone else shut down. The cities shut down a day or so after everyone else did and the rural areas didnt need to shut down.

Florida isnt shutting down the border. They are stopping people at the border because people from the epicenter are flocking down here and they want to document it so they understand to isolate rather than carry on a normal habit

Regarding the boat, are you serious? Several things on this. These people are on an infected boat. It would be wise to make sure the hospitals can handle them and the local citizens. It would also be wise to have a plan for the "healthy" ones that doesnt jeopardize the locals too. These ships werent supposed to be in Florida. They were denied by everyone else in SA. But keep on.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Well, the odds certainly weren't good there. Still sad.
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Exactly, but what stands out to me is that he hadn’t left his house and had minimal contact with anyone other than his wife for three weeks, which is also how long he’d been feeling ill, which would have been during the first week of March. He could have conceivably caught the virus in February, well before anyone was looking for it in this part of the country.
 
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Regulator said:
Exactly, but what stands out to me is that he hadn’t left his house and had minimal contact with anyone other than his wife for three weeks, which is also how long he’d been feeling ill, which would have been during the first week of March. He could have conceivably caught the virus in February, well before anyone was looking for it in this part of the country.
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That goes to the theory that this thing has been circulating in the US for some time. I think the instant antibody test is very important now. Need a billion of them. If we can identify which have already survived it then those can return to normalcy as the can't contract it or spread it. Also, they can donate blood for plasma therapy.
 
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JacketVol said:
I have a friend and this is what he is reviewing. You go to the link you gave and hit article and it pulls up the article on this model and it reads this before it starts word for word. I copied and pasted it.

This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

Here is the link directly to their article on the site. Forecasting COVID-19 impact on hospital bed-days, ICU-days, ventilator-days and deaths by US state in the next 4 months
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JacketVol said:
They are using the model to make policy decisions for our country and it states itself it has not been peer reviewed and it is research that has not been evaluated and shout NOT be used to guide clinical practice. But, hell yeah, shut it all down.
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Again, social distancing will just help prevent a lot of things and has historical significance and again, we are following. But looking at these numbers, Tennessee should have 21 deaths today and I believe we had 6. I think it is positive news. However, read these post and go look for yourself before you respond. The article from the people who did the model on their website and it is dated March 30, states what I posted above. Not peer reviewed and shouldn't be used as a clinical guide and even though recently updated still showing something the numbers are not for Tennessee and many other places as well including New York. Makes you wonder about it and maybe we will be out of this sooner than later. However, using this model has increased the fear and panic and maybe that is what they really wanted to do to get people to not lick buggies and each other.
 
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Regulator said:
Exactly, but what stands out to me is that he hadn’t left his house and had minimal contact with anyone other than his wife for three weeks, which is also how long he’d been feeling ill, which would have been during the first week of March. He could have conceivably caught the virus in February, well before anyone was looking for it in this part of the country.
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ding ding ding we have a winner
 
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InVOLuntary said:
That goes to the theory that this thing has been circulating in the US for some time. I think the instant antibody test is very important now. Need a billion of them. If we can identify which have already survived it then those can return to normalcy as the can't contract it or spread it. Also, they can donate blood for plasma therapy.
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Not really. He was last out around late Feb or early March, right? We know this was definitely circulating at that time. Just look at Mardis Gras (Feb 25).
 
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TennTradition said:
Not really. He was last out around late Feb or early March, right? We know this was definitely circulating at that time. Just look at Mardis Gras (Feb 25).
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True but most cases early on were able to be traced to where they most likely contracted the virus. At so.e point that became impossible. I can't recall when they determined community spread became known. It's happened so quickly I'm not sure of timing for anything. 🤪
 
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InVOLuntary said:
True but most cases early on were able to be traced to where they most likely contracted the virus. At so.e point that became impossible. I can't recall when they determined community spread became known. It's happened so quickly I'm not sure of timing for anything. 🤪
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The issue is that our lack of proper testing led us to believe we didn’t have community spread when in fact it was taking place at multiple hotspots across the country.
 
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TennTradition said:
The issue is that our lack of proper testing led us to believe we didn’t have community spread when in fact it was taking place at multiple hotspots across the country.
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That was what I was trying to get at. It was in the community long before we thought it was.
 
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#2,921
TennTradition said:
I just wanted to differentiate what king meant. For me it doesn’t mean November and December. It definitely means late January and February.
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Yeah, I get it. I don't think it was here before January. I don't think the seattle cases were the first though.
 
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#2,923
Tennessee and Alabama are running neck and neck with deaths we have 44 here now but less cases than Tennessee no doubt cause Alabama was slow to start testing people.
 
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