Cooper showing on a draft board but wonder if this style not good for WNBA..

[madtownvol]

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What is the source of this "assessment"-- Bad Hot Takes R US?

Concluding that Coop's # of steals are inflated by the Lady Vols style of play is kind of like saying that Caitlin Clark's scoring numbers were inflated by Iowa's style of play or that Murrow's rebounding numbers were inflated by LSU's style of play.

Come to think of it, the number of Michael Jordan's championships was inflated by the Chicago Bulls' style of play. And Tom Brady's hall of fame stats-- totally inflated by the Pats style of play. Muhammad Ali's 3 separate periods of being World HW champ--totally inflated by his style of boxing!!

Really, no knowledgeable person would describe Coop as "a rotation player." -- that would have been Avery Strickland or Sara Puckett. For every televised LV game, she was the lead story about the team.

I think there is some onus on posters to recognize idiotic hot takes and not post repost them here, unless specifically identifying as such. No one is wondering if Coop is a prospect for the W. She will be a first rounder.

 

[glv98]

…you just can’t help yourself.

My opinion. You disagree?

 

[glv98]

What is the source of this "assessment"-- Bad Hot Takes R US?

Concluding that Coop's # of steals are inflated by the Lady Vols style of play is kind of like saying that Caitlin Clark's scoring numbers were inflated by Iowa's style of play or that Murrow's rebounding numbers were inflated by LSU's style of play.

Come to think of it, the number of Michael Jordan's championships was inflated by the Chicago Bulls' style of play. And Tom Brady's hall of fame stats-- totally inflated by the Pats style of play. Muhammad Ali's 3 separate periods of being World HW champ--totally inflated by his style of boxing!!

Really, no knowledgeable person would describe Coop as "a rotation player." -- that would have been Avery Strickland or Sara Puckett. For every televised LV game, she was he lead story about the team.

I think there is some onus on posters to recognize idiotic hot takes and not post repost them here, unless specifically identifying as such. No one is wondering if Coop is prospect for the W. She will be a first rounder.

You kidding? Never enough perceived insult and straw men for these righteous avengers!

 

[chuckiepoo]

I think there is some onus on posters to recognize idiotic hot takes and not post repost them here, unless specifically identifying as such. No one is wondering if Coop is a prospect for the W. She will be a first rounder.

Good luck with that!

 

[Orange007]

What is the source of this "assessment"-- Bad Hot Takes R US?

Concluding that Coop's # of steals are inflated by the Lady Vols style of play is kind of like saying that Caitlin Clark's scoring numbers were inflated by Iowa's style of play or that Murrow's rebounding numbers were inflated by LSU's style of play.

Come to think of it, the number of Michael Jordan's championships was inflated by the Chicago Bulls' style of play. And Tom Brady's hall of fame stats-- totally inflated by the Pats style of play. Muhammad Ali's 3 separate periods of being World HW champ--totally inflated by his style of boxing!!

Really, no knowledgeable person would describe Coop as "a rotation player." -- that would have been Avery Strickland or Sara Puckett. For every televised LV game, she was the lead story about the team.

I think there is some onus on posters to recognize idiotic hot takes and not post repost them here, unless specifically identifying as such. No one is wondering if Coop is a prospect for the W. She will be a first rounder.

AMEN TO ALL OF THIS! if great numbers are inflated by a system, just MAYBE that system is the BOMB. See above.

 

[Ladyvols4ever]

Mendes?

 

[VolBall09]

Mendes?

Seems to be the case

 

[mudcat1973]

I love Jewel but comparing her draft prospects to Cooper's is like apples and oranges. Players know this part too. Bottom line- this paragraph about Cooper was written as a jab to CKC and some fans on here aren't seeing it. It's like something Adams would write in Knox news. Thankfully, recruits, parents, and WNBA teams know better.

Wasn't attacking Cooper.
Cooper has natural ability that get her to The WNBA.
Think Cooper could get drafted playing at lot college teams.

Was talking about players like Jewel Spear.
Who are pretty good college players.
Who want to improve to be able to play in the WNBA.

Was responding to posters talking about social media getting in way of recruiting.
Which I agree players probably don't pay much attention to people on social media they don't know.

As far attacking Tennessee I seen a couple YouTube videos wondering if Tennessee system will improve or get players ready for the WNBA.

Back to Cooper think she make the WNBA being coached by
Dawn South Carolina Kellie Harper or Kim C.
Think a coach would have to be pretty bad to miss up Copper WNBA changes.
I think Cooper could play for a lot teams and make the WNBA.
Saying Cooper was blessed with skills wasn't meant to attack Kim. C.

Have not read adams

Kim not had a chance to coach a player at Tennessee and see if there wnba draft stock could be improved by Tennessee coaching staff have two or more years to improve a player.

Jewel Spear one year in the system
Isn't enough to say whether staff can a take a player like Jewel Spear and improve her draft stock..

Maybe Jewel Spear can go over Seas and make the WNBA in a few years.

Just like R. Jackson could have made to the WNBA where she was at.
Before transfering to Tennessee and playing at Tennessee for two years.
Some players have a natural ability and there work they done to improve their skills before college.
That they make the WNBA if not suffering a bad injury.
In a lot university's. They could choose and still make the WNBA

 

[mudcat1973]

Good luck with that!

Do you diagree that R. Jackson could have made the WNBA at Mississippi state or some other team.
Same as Jordan Houston she could have made the WNBA in a lot of university's.
Now a player like Rae B.
Kellie Harper help her improve her raw Talent .
Not saying another university couldn't have developed Rae into a WNBA player .
I put Cooper in the players like Jordan H.
They had talent coming out of high school.

Kim C. needs a chance to work with players like Jewel Spear and Rae for two years or more to see if she can improve their draft stock.

Rae had skills just needed someone to get her play more uncontrol .
By not trying to hard.

One year not enough time to see if Kim can improve a player like Rae.
Not saying Rae and Jewel Spear were equal talented coming out of high school.

Anyway I'm done for now.
Giving my take on players who would be hard for a coach .
To ruin their chances because they could have made the WNBA draft in several university's.

And acknowledging that they had been born with talent.
And was going to make the WNBA .
In a majority of university's.
Is like saying a tall player's better at shot blocking under the basketball goal than a shorter player.
Some players have been blessed with God given ability.
Coach can not coach a player taller.
Or change a natural ability they were born with.

 

[Orange007]

Wasn't attacking Cooper.
Cooper has natural ability that get her to The WNBA.
Think Cooper could get drafted playing at lot college teams.

Was talking about players like Jewel Spear.
Who are pretty good college players.
Who want to improve to be able to play in the WNBA.

Was responding to posters talking about social media getting in way of recruiting.
Which I agree players probably don't pay much attention to people on social media they don't know.

As far attacking Tennessee I seen a couple YouTube videos wondering if Tennessee system will improve or get players ready for the WNBA.

Back to Cooper think she make the WNBA being coached by
Dawn South Carolina Kellie Harper or Kim C.
Think a coach would have to be pretty bad to miss up Copper WNBA changes.
I think Cooper could play for a lot teams and make the WNBA.
Saying Cooper was blessed with skills wasn't meant to attack Kim. C.

Have not read adams

Kim not had a chance to coach a player at Tennessee and see if there wnba draft stock could be improved by Tennessee coaching staff have two or more years to improve a player.

Jewel Spear one year in the system
Isn't enough to say whether staff can a take a player like Jewel Spear and improve her draft stock..

Maybe Jewel Spear can go over Seas and make the WNBA in a few years.

Just like R. Jackson could have made to the WNBA where she was at.
Before transfering to Tennessee and playing at Tennessee for two years.
Some players have a natural ability and there work they done to improve their skills before college.
That they make the WNBA if not suffering a bad injury.
In a lot university's. They could choose and still make the WNBA

I will reserve my thoughts about our players and former players at this point. I will only say that all players dream of being drafted but only a small fraction make a team in the W. There is a long list of elite talented players at the college ranks that are not on a roster now. To me, it is an overstatement to link Jewel with the system in way that suggests she could have been drafted if she played elsewhere. It puts forth an unnecessary negative inference on CKC's system after one season. In essence, this is exactly what the writer of that article wanted and here we are. Regardless, Jewel was a better overall player in her senior season. I've said my peace. Not giving another ounce of air to the bozo who wrote that about Cooper.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

Griffen and Chen mostly got drafted bc the draft was very, very weak. But playing at UuConn sure didn't hurt.

Either way, neither will make a roster.

I agree … When i look at players drafted i look at all the rounds. Whether they make it or not they heard their name called. Also when you get drafted late some of those players get those 7 day contracts when other players are injured and can stick with a team.

In looking at that write up it was stupid to say the numbers are inflated because of the consistent press. Well duh, the system is created to produce more turnovers. I believe it is also fair to say that some coaches may question players for their systems as ours is very unique so it may cause questions. Regardless it’s a fun style that again should win a lot of games. If/when the style starts winning championships or getting final fours all those questions will be put to rest because winning cures all

 

[madtownvol]

I agree … When i look at players drafted i look at all the rounds. Whether they make it or not they heard their name called. Also when you get drafted late some of those players get those 7 day contracts when other players are injured and can stick with a team.

In looking at that write up it was stupid to say the numbers are inflated because of the consistent press. Well duh, the system is created to produce more turnovers. I believe it is also fair to say that some coaches may question players for their systems as ours is very unique so it may cause questions. Regardless it’s a fun style that again should win a lot of games. If/when the style starts winning championships or getting final fours all those questions will be put to rest because winning cures all

On the system, did it magically make Tess into a steals demon? YOu need coops' long arms and lightening quick reflexes to have as many steals as she gets. Any pro scout will recognize the talent regardless of the system.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

On the system, did it magically make Tess into a steals demon? YOu need coops' long arms and lightening quick reflexes to have as many steals as she gets. Any pro scout will recognize the talent regardless of the system.

the system and pressing did allow for more steals for sure. But Coops athleticism was able to be put on full display. So yes it helps.

Now if we get more rebounding and high shooting %s it’s gonna be really fun.

 

[Orange.]

Cooper played plenty. People saying she played limited minutes are just lazy and not looking at the overall picture. I also don't get the comments that Kim's style doesn't fit with the WNBA. I disagree. I think her style of play, except for the quick substitutions, is exactly what the WNBA plays. They don't play a plodding, deliberate style in the W.

This cookie-cutter slight is likely dervived from negative recruiting spiels and rival coaches passing their “concerns” along to scouts. Imo.

 

[chuckiepoo]

This cookie-cutter slight is likely dervived from negative recruiting spiels and rival coaches passing their “concerns” along to scouts. Imo.

…but I read it on Twitter, so it must be true!

 

[mudcat1973]

3:42 to 4:07 is what got me thinking about Jewel Spear.
Not the article which I haven't read before posted other two posts in this thread.
Still say majority if not all WNBA draft picks would get drafted wherever they choice to play.
Posted this because to show what got me thinking about Jewel Spear and it wasn't article.
Kim C. Getting players in the WNBA will stop such video and articles
And because the article was referred two twice while responding to my post

 

[mudcat1973]

1:28 to 3:58 talks about Tennessee and be interesting to watch how UCLA pick up does.
Watch YouTube videos because I don't know all players from the other teams.
And can put a picture to a name.
Posted this one because I do not want to single out first video.
Just like posters there is better information videos channels than others .