Contentment

#26
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orangepridenation said:
Well, i've seen highlights and replays that they show on CSS. They're great, especially the one where Travis Stephens went literally insane on the Gators Defense back in '01. But, it just isn't the same. Seeing the old stuff is great, but seeing it actually happen at the moment is on a whole different level.
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The Cal game in '06 that you said was your first game was one of the last TRUE old school Neyland crowds. I've never heard a crowd sustain their energy for an entire game the way we did that day. Now that they've removed seats and essentially turned one whole side of the stadium into a luxury box, I have a feeling those types of crowds are a thing of the past. Consider yourself lucky you got a chance to experience it.
 
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Blood Runs Orange said:
Based on our facilities, recruiting budget, etc I think its reasonable to expect UT to win the SEC East once every 2-3 years and win the SECCG every 3-5 years.
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Yes, I think that's the set standard for this program, and it will take a while to get there. But not a freaking decade like some are saying, just probably 5 years to get back to that certain level of consistency, hell maybe 3 or 4 if Dooley can get the ship righted pretty quick, which isn't out of the question at all.
 
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This is laughable to say the least. Using rough figures, UT has stacked up 6 NC titles in, lets say, roughly 100 years. That's 1 NC every 17 years...we had one 12 years ago. Do you plan on dying in your 40's or something?

I'm tired of hearing UT "fans" whine and complain about how the end of UT football is looming at our doorstep. UT is, according to the NCAA, just as winning of a tradition as BAMA (UT = 6 NC's, BAMA = 7 NC's), and I bet you don't hear any BAMA fans crying. Support your team through thick and thin.
 
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KnoxVillain said:
Wow people are either gloom and doom or stupidly homeristic about Tennessee football. You people make it seem like there is no in between...you are either a radical pessimist or radical optimist.
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Well, we've been in the "in between" for the better part of the last decade, and people don't like it. We can either go up, down, or stay the same from here. Which one would you prefer?
 
#30
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adambmore said:
This is laughable to say the least. Using rough figures, UT has stacked up 6 NC titles in, lets say, roughly 100 years. That's 1 NC every 17 years...we had one 12 years ago. Do you plan on dying in your 40's or something?

I'm tired of hearing UT "fans" whine and complain about how the end of UT football is looming at our doorstep. UT is, according to the NCAA, just as winning of a tradition as BAMA (UT = 6 NC's, BAMA = 7 NC's), and I bet you don't hear any BAMA fanssupport your team through thick and thin.
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I don't think he was saying he doesn't want us to win it all again, or even really implying that he thinks we can't. He was simply stating, that since UT has won a NC on his watch as a fan, he's content with that, and I tend to agree. I just want to be consistently competing at the top of the SEC. If we can do that, the rest will take care of itself.

Also, don't be rediculous. Alabama has something like 35 National Championships. :)
 
#31
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My dad was 29 when UT won the championship in 1951. He became a lifelong Vol fan during Neyland’s glory years. Dad was a veteran of WWII who came home with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star. He also came home with a combat wound that troubled him for the rest of his life and would have killed or crippled him had the bullet gone any closer to his spine. My dad always told me that the ’51 team that won the national title was his favorite. He could name most of the starting lineup even into his later years. My dad said that, after Neyland left, he doubted the Vols would win another national championship in his lifetime. He knew as well as anyone that Neyland was a rare breed and the Vols weren’t likely to find another man of his caliber. In spite of this, he always held out hope that his beloved Vols would pull off another national championship in his lifetime. He wanted to share that experience with his football-loving son. One of the things that kept him from dwelling on the misery of his WWII experiences (the wounds he suffered, the friends he saw killed by enemy forces) was his ardent support of the Tennessee Volunteers. Sadly, my dad died in December of 1994, not long before the Vols finally did win that next elusive national championship. One of my earliest (and best) memories is sitting in front of our black and white TV cheering on the Vols with my dad. One of my biggest regrets is not being able to cheer the Vols to victory with my dad in the Fiesta Bowl of ’99. He was right in his prediction. After 1951, the Vols never did win another title in his lifetime. However, one thing my dad never gave up was hope. Every football season, he put everything he had into cheering on his Vols. None of the post-Neyland teams ever lived up to his dream, but he never stopped dreaming. In my early years, I remember thinking the Vols would never win a national title in my lifetime, but because of the example set by my dad, I never gave up hope. To my everlasting delight, that hope finally paid off. I think we could all learn from my dad’s example.
 
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#32
#32
Haha yeah I'm reminded of Bama's accomplishments on a daily basis...

When you write your own history, I guess just about anything is possible.
 
#33
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bleedorange0037 said:
The Cal game in '06 that you said was your first game was one of the last TRUE old school Neyland crowds. I've never heard a crowd sustain their energy for an entire game the way we did that day. Now that they've removed seats and essentially turned one whole side of the stadium into a luxury box, I have a feeling those types of crowds are a thing of the past. Consider yourself lucky you got a chance to experience it.
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Maybe, but Neyland is still a place that will send chills up your spine. I've been back 4 times since the Cal game, and i haven't complained yet. Although the other 4 games were against Bama, Florida, Georgia, and Kentucky. So i think the competition might have had something to do with that.
 
#34
#34
Special Ed said:
My dad was 29 when UT won the championship in 1951. He became a lifelong Vol fan during Neyland’s glory years. Dad was a veteran of WWII who came home with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star. He also came home with a combat wound that troubled him for the rest of his life and would have killed or crippled him had the bullet gone any closer to his spine. My dad always told me that the ’51 team that won the national title was his favorite. He could name most of the starting lineup even into his later years. My dad said that, after Neyland left, he doubted the Vols would win another national championship in his lifetime. He knew as well as anyone that Neyland was a rare breed and the Vols weren’t likely to find another man of his caliber. In spite of this, he always held out hope that his beloved Vols would pull off another national championship in his lifetime. He wanted to share that experience with his football-loving son. One of the things that kept him from dwelling on the misery of his WWII experiences (the wounds he suffered, the friends he saw killed by enemy forces) was his ardent support of the Tennessee Volunteers. Sadly, my dad died in December of 1994, not long before the Vols finally did win that next elusive national championship. One of my earliest (and best) memories is sitting in front of our black and white TV cheering on the Vols with my dad. One of my biggest regrets is not being able to cheer the Vols to victory with my dad in the Fiesta Bowl of ’99. He was right in his prediction. After 1951, the Vols never did win another title in his lifetime. However, one thing my dad never gave up was hope. Every football season, he put everything he had into cheering on his Vols. None of the post-Neyland teams ever lived up to his dream, but he never stopped dreaming. In my early years, I remember thinking the Vols would never win a national title in my lifetime, but because of the example set by my dad, I never gave up hope. To my everlasting delight, that hope finally paid off. I think we could all learn from my dad’s example.
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Good read! :good!:
 
#35
#35
orangepridenation said:
Well, we've been in the "in between" for the better part of the last decade, and people don't like it. We can either go up, down, or stay the same from here. Which one would you prefer?
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Is that a question that needs to be asked? Obviously I want the Vols to go up. However, I'm not such a homer that I expect Tennessee to turn it around this season and have 10 wins like a lot of people are calling for. I also think given time Dooley will steer us in the right direction, so I'm not one of those people saying "ughh we will never be good again". I'm a realist, and apparently I'm one of the few on here that has enough sense to think inbetween the radical opposite ends of the spectrum where most fans are presiding right now.
 
#36
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KnoxVillain said:
Is that a question that needs to be asked? Obviously I want the Vols to go up. However, I'm not such a homer that I expect Tennessee to turn it around this season and have 10 wins like a lot of people are calling for. I also think given time Dooley will steer us in the right direction, so I'm not one of those people saying "ughh we will never be good again". I'm a realist, and apparently I'm one of the few on here that has enough sense to think inbetween the radical opposite ends of the spectrum where most fans are presiding right now.
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Well i have to disagree. I mean yeah, i've seen some homers on here, and i've seen some negative ones on here. But the majority, including myself, see this team as more than likely a 6 or 7 win team next year, and then seeing what happens from there. I was mainly pointing out the matter that noone seems to be content with the "in between", which is where we are now.
 
#37
#37
Not trying to compare us to Bama but they thought that there program would never make it to another SEC Champ Game about 6 years ago And they end up hitting the Lotto with Saban....So dont stop believing my fellow Vol fan.GBO!!!
 
#38
#38
With the possible restructuring of the Big 10, and possibly the PAC 10, a NC is going to be harder to reach. Those conferences plan on implementing a CG themselves, adding another game to their roster. Those two conferences are "high ratings" conferences and they will got a lot of pub during the championship week(s). It's all about money, and if the TV networks can make 10 more bucks, thats where they gravitate to. Not saying the SEC will not make it in, but the field will be more crowded.
 
#39
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volfan4evr said:
With the possible restructuring of the Big 10, and possibly the PAC 10, a NC is going to be harder to reach. Those conferences plan on implementing a CG themselves, adding another game to their roster. Those two conferences are "high ratings" conferences and they will got a lot of pub during the championship week(s). It's all about money, and if the TV networks can make 10 more bucks, thats where they gravitate to. Not saying the SEC will not make it in, but the field will be more crowded.
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I'm fine with that scenario in all honesty. It will stew up more controversy, and maybe if we hit the controversial motherlode, the NCAA might wise up enough to impliment a playoff system. Doubtful, but nowhere near impossible. The Big 10 has turned into a joke anyway. Michigan's completely fallen off the face of the earth, State Penn is held hostage by Joe Paterno, so who knows when they're ever going to slip out of mediocrity. And other than Ohio State, everybody else is just kind of, well, there. And with the exception of this past year, OSU's been getting it handed to them pretty hard in the big games. The Pac-10's a one team conference most years. I really don't know where i'm going with this, other than the SEC will still be better, and everybody will still know it. I would just love a playoff system. Just take the winners of all the major BCS conferences and throw in a few wild cards, and we'll see who wins. I guarantee the SEC team would win it most years, and i guarantee that at least one of the wild cards would be an SEC team every year.
 
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#40
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Hamilton is on record as saying his expectations at Tennessee are to win at least two SEC championships during a 10-year period and get to the SEC title game every three or four years, as well as play in BCS bowls with some regularity.
 
#41
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VolDad said:
Hamilton is on record as saying his expectations at Tennessee are to win at least two SEC championships during a 10-year period and get to the SEC title game every three or four years, as well as play in BCS bowls with some regularity.
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Well, at least he's got some decent ambition if nothing else. :p
 
#42
#42
they can restructure all they want, but what they need are better teams, not more of them. Championship game won't change the fact that the big ten just isn't very good right now.

volfan4evr said:
With the possible restructuring of the Big 10, and possibly the PAC 10, a NC is going to be harder to reach. Those conferences plan on implementing a CG themselves, adding another game to their roster. Those two conferences are "high ratings" conferences and they will got a lot of pub during the championship week(s). It's all about money, and if the TV networks can make 10 more bucks, thats where they gravitate to. Not saying the SEC will not make it in, but the field will be more crowded.
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#44
#44
You never know when it will happen! At the start on the 98 season I thought we had no chance of winning the NC!
 
#45
#45
tennezz said:
You never know when it will happen! At the start on the 98 season I thought we had no chance of winning the NC!
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Not sure why you thought that. Yes, losing Peyton was big, but that team had ridiculous talent and everyone knew that even at the start of the season...
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#46
#46
Won't help them much right now. Money talks and the sec signed the most lucrative media contract in history, and that's not because we have a conference championship. Those conferences don't need more teams, they need better teams. And a championship game won't change the fact that other than USC, neither conference has fielded a legitimate championship contender in years.

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With the possible restructuring of the Big 10, and possibly the PAC 10, a NC is going to be harder to reach. Those conferences plan on implementing a CG themselves, adding another game to their roster. Those two conferences are "high ratings" conferences and they will got a lot of pub during the championship week(s). It's all about money, and if the TV networks can make 10 more bucks, thats where they gravitate to. Not saying the SEC will not make it in, but the field will be more crowded.
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Volunteeer said:
Not sure why you thought that. Yes, losing Peyton was big, but that team had ridiculous talent and everyone knew that even at the start of the season...
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Have to disagree with you here...People really didn't know what to expect from this team after losing the likes of Peyton, Little, uhh Copeland? I know there are others but I can't think of who else right now...Marcus Nash? Anyway I don't think many expected an SEC title with a new QB and certainly not a NC.
 
#48
#48
I'm 17
Last time I saw UF lose to Tennessee: 2004 (age 12)
Last time I saw Bama lose to Tennessee: 2006 (age 14)
I began to follow UT in 2001 (age 9), and I don't remember the 1998 season (I was 6).
I've never seen UT win a SECCG or a NC.

HOWEVER, I never lose hope, and I bleed orange and white til I die.
 
#49
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KnoxVillain said:
Have to disagree with you here...People really didn't know what to expect from this team after losing the likes of Peyton, Little, uhh Copeland? I know there are others but I can't think of who else right now...Marcus Nash? Anyway I don't think many expected an SEC title with a new QB and certainly not a NC.
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Terry Fair was also a 1st rd pick in that draft, along with Nash. Copeland was on the NC team. The team was still talented but I certainly didn't expect a NC, especially when we couldn't win one with Peyton and got destroyed by Nebraska.
 
#50
#50
KnoxVillain said:
Have to disagree with you here...People really didn't know what to expect from this team after losing the likes of Peyton, Little, uhh Copeland? I know there are others but I can't think of who else right now...Marcus Nash? Anyway I don't think many expected an SEC title with a new QB and certainly not a NC.
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That was at a time when losing one or two games was the norm and expectations were not that different in 98. And anytime you can expect that type of season you are only a game or two from a championship run. So while it was not predicted, it was within the realm of reason to believe a game or two swing could happen. Unlike now, when a sec run is nigh impossible. We started ranked in the teens(13 maybe?), no one should think a championship is out of the question at that level.
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