Consistency is the Key

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I've heard Crompton say more than once that this WR runs his route here and this other WR runs the same route another way. Do you guys think it would help if the WRs would run they're routes at the same depth? I think that's a big problem.
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That was Cut's philosophy and it prevented younger players from getting to the field.

It would probably help if they'd settled on a rotation earlier but with the young guys getting most of the August reps and their best two WR's being injured for awhile they are behind the curve even more than they would have been.

Crompton also has to know his receivers and remember who is in the game.

CLK is simply asking one guy to think and change rather than every receiver.

The bigger problem with the WR's that GJ alluded to was that they have been running routes differently in the games than they do in practice.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
I've heard Crompton say more than once that this WR runs his route here and this other WR runs the same route another way. Do you guys think it would help if the WRs would run they're routes at the same depth? I think that's a big problem.
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Oh dear lord, I played in the back yard ball drawing the plays in the dirt and that worked pretty well! QB has got to SEE where the play is going just a bit, watch the defender, it is not rocket science!! :shakehead:
 
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sjt18 said:
That was Cut's philosophy and it prevented younger players from getting to the field.

It would probably help if they'd settled on a rotation earlier but with the young guys getting most of the August reps and their best two WR's being injured for awhile they are behind the curve even more than they would have been.

Crompton also has to know his receivers and remember who is in the game.

CLK is simply asking one guy to think and change rather than every receiver.

The bigger problem with the WR's that GJ alluded to was that they have been running routes differently in the games than they do in practice.
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Teague was very consistent when I watched him against Western Kentucky. He's a good route-runner and showed good hands.
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samdavol said:
Oh dear lord, I played in the back yard ball drawing the plays in the dirt and that worked pretty well! QB has got to SEE where the play is going just a bit, watch the defender, it is not rocket science!! :shakehead:
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You've got to be kidding me. Dude your comparing high-level college football to backyard sandlot football?
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Yeah I see what you mean, a timing pattern that must be thrown in a small space between SEC caliber DB's is just like backyard ball...:shakehead:
 
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Lockdown1 said:
Teague was very consistent when I watched him against Western Kentucky. He's a good route-runner and showed good hands.
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Agree completely. That was one of my criticisms of CLK after UCLA. He played Jones and Moore instead of Teague who JC seemed to have developed chemistry with.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
You've got to be kidding me. Dude your comparing high-level college football to backyard sandlot football?
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It is that kind of ignorant/shallow junk that's been setting me off lately.

I find myself in the position of defending Crompton who has played poorly because people refuse to see the problem is bigger than just him. Just like this guy, they over simplify what goes on.

You and others dumped on the guy but this is where a guy like A Rogers is valuable. When the bright lights come on, he is still exactly where he's supposed to be every time.
 
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samdavol said:
Oh dear lord, I played in the back yard ball drawing the plays in the dirt and that worked pretty well! QB has got to SEE where the play is going just a bit, watch the defender, it is not rocket science!! :shakehead:
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hey Sam, you are going to have to dumb down those slams a little bit, they thought you were serious
 
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sjt18 said:
It is that kind of ignorant/shallow junk that's been setting me off lately.

I find myself in the position of defending Crompton who has played poorly because people refuse to see the problem is bigger than just him. Just like this guy, they over simplify what goes on.

You and others dumped on the guy but this is where a guy like A Rogers is valuable. When the bright lights come on, he is still exactly where he's supposed to be every time.
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Wait a minute now. Rogers wouldn't be getting any more separation than the others. I just want somebody in there that will run the play that's drawn up. This adjusting crap will kill a QB. Gerald Jones with his excuses are really pissing me off.
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Lockdown1 said:
Wait a minute now. Rogers wouldn't be getting any more separation than the others. I just want somebody in there that will run the play that's drawn up. This adjusting crap will kill a QB. Gerald Jones with his excuses are really pissing me off.
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G. Jones has been makin me angry every since he wanted to be sooooo vocal about how much he loved his coach and wanted to stand up for him when Fulmer got let go then promptly went out with the rest of his teamates and laid a big egg against Wyoming. He's just not ever been spectacular to me and i've seen more of his gums bumpin than his play making ability over time. I hope he shows up but for me he's only been slightly less of a disappointment than crompton.
 
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Our passing game has been very consistent. Unfortunately, that's the problem.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
Wait a minute now. Rogers wouldn't be getting any more separation than the others. I just want somebody in there that will run the play that's drawn up. This adjusting crap will kill a QB. Gerald Jones with his excuses are really pissing me off.
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Austin Rogers has always been a solid WR. You just don't like him because he's white and doesn't wear Nike Vapors.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
Wait a minute now. Rogers wouldn't be getting any more separation than the others. I just want somebody in there that will run the play that's drawn up. This adjusting crap will kill a QB. Gerald Jones with his excuses are really pissing me off.
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There isn't a player on the team that has gotten separation 56 times in a single season. Rogers proved that he could get open even when UT didn't have a marquee receiver. In fact, if he was playing he'd be the ONLY Vol receiver that had proven he could get open on a regular basis against SEC level competition.

A guy that the QB's could depend on to be where they're supposed to would be worth $1 million right now.

I know you hate the guy for some unknown reason but he would help this O.
 
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sjt18 said:
There isn't a player on the team that has gotten separation 56 times in a single season. Rogers proved that he could get open even when UT didn't have a marquee receiver. In fact, if he was playing he'd be the ONLY Vol receiver that had proven he could get open on a regular basis against SEC level competition.

A guy that the QB's could depend on to be where they're supposed to would be worth $1 million right now.

I know you hate the guy for some unknown reason but he would help this O.
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:thumbsup:
 
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Considering the fact that we haven't had a consistent set of receivers even in the game or at practice is what hurts us. All the injuries have been a big problem.

That still doesn't change my mind that Crompton can't read a defense and successfully throw to more than one target. If you watch him in the UCLA or UF game, he stares down one receiver and that is it. He doesn't check off on any other targets.

And to all of you people talking about the high level of play with SEC DB's... you just shot yourself in the foot on that argument. Because you can't stare down one receiver with those kinds of DB's. UCLA even said that. And teams last year said that. He hasn't changed one bit, yet you all hang on his scrotum because Coach Jesus Kiffin "must be right." Well guess what homies? Last year when CPF played him, everyone called him a moron, and he was fire. So whats the deal this year?

Hypocrites.
 
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Hey mo. Please name the person here who is claiming that Crompton is playing well or who wouldn't like to have a better QB.

I am quite sure that Kiffin has more vested and more at risk with his QB decision than you do.

What some have said is that CLK must believe he's the best they've got. I agree with that somewhat but not completely. I think he's also hesitant to change because he knows the O as a whole is still in development. He knows that while Crompton may be the most obvious problem... He isn't the only problem. He knows that a change will be a potential set back in other areas where UT has improved offensively. Maybe Crompton makes good line reads and gets them in the right run? Would you be willing to take less production in the run game on the slim chance Stephens might be a marginally better passer?

And once again I'll ask, which one of UT's WR's would be the marquee receiver for any good passing offense in CFB? Jones is probably the best UT has and he's never proven himself to be more than a #2, possession type of WR. Moore has caught some deep balls but very little else. There's potential with Nuke and Teague but they aren't there yet.

Maybe I'm missing it... Maybe one of you guys who are laying it heavy on JC will tell me who his AJ Green, Jarius Wright, or Julio Jones is...

Who is the guy on UT's roster that other teams MUST double or else they can't stop him? Ans: UT doesn't have a WR like that.
 
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FTR, Fulmer was not fired because he played Crompton. That's a ludicrous argument.
 
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sjt18 said:
There isn't a player on the team that has gotten separation 56 times in a single season. Rogers proved that he could get open even when UT didn't have a marquee receiver. In fact, if he was playing he'd be the ONLY Vol receiver that had proven he could get open on a regular basis against SEC level competition.

A guy that the QB's could depend on to be where they're supposed to would be worth $1 million right now.

I know you hate the guy for some unknown reason but he would help this O.
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I said he wouldn't get anymore separation than the other receivers. Where did I say he wouldn't help out any?
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Lockdown1 said:
I said he wouldn't get anymore separation than the other receivers. Where did I say he wouldn't help out any?
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You have been down on Rogers for years. Rogers is the guy that would be running the routes the way they are suppose to be run, that is why is gets the ball. Rogers would be WR1 and would help our offense tremendously right now.
 
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TheVol said:
You have been down on Rogers for years. Rogers is the guy that would be running the routes the way they are suppose to be run, that is why is gets the ball. Rogers would be WR1 and would help our offense tremendously right now.
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Wow!!!! WR1 hmmm.... No comment the player is hurt.
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Lockdown1 said:
Wow!!!! WR1 hmmm.... No comment the player is hurt.
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He was WR2 before injured, Hancock(WR3), and GJ(WR1) have been injured and inconsistent. At this point in the season who would be ahead of AR? He is the consistent receiver you are talking about that runs the routes correctly. That is GJ and BW problems. Plus they are not any faster or athletic than AR. They have shown that this season. The only current receiver I would take over AR is MT. Next year is a different story. Milton, Ambles, and Cobbs will bring the package.
 
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Consistency , well there are some things that they could do to get some consistency for Jon , first maybe some wide receiver screens, run the back out toward the flat, really simplify the passing game with some quick slants , get some positive yardage!
We roll him out to much at times and throwing on the run seems not to be working , of course teams like Western Kentucky he looks like a game buster, but we seen how good defenses like UCLA and Uf can close faster especially when he can't get his eyes off his primary receiver! All Im saying is simplify the game for Jonathan , cause he cannot read a defense at all, Please Lane try this
 
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