Conflicting rumors all over the place...(Kevin Sumlin)

[KingNick865]

Until he does a decent job with out one of the best QBs all time that doesn't matter he has played no one. And you really think that system would work here?

It isn't like Case Keenum was this highly regarded phenom coming into college. He's a product of his system.

 

[zjcvols]

It isn't like Case Keenum was this highly regarded phenom coming into college. He's a product of his system.

Last time I checked he was a 4th round pick.

 

[CountVolcula]

There is another reason behind this thread if you can guess and its not to troll. It has a very specific reason. Its to prove a very critical point

Can any of you guess?

 

[dirtybirdVOL]

Ron Zook could've won the national championship with this team! Are you serious? Fire Dooley!

Cheese donkey?....more like chesedik.....

 

[iuvol2012]

He lost to Rice

And Dooley lost to Idaho, Fresno State, and Utah State in the same year. Not exactly football powerhouses.

 

[Nationdom]

It isn't like Case Keenum was this highly regarded phenom coming into college. He's a product of his system.

Lets say he is, Do you really think that "system" will work here and win championships like we all want? I don't see it.

 

[VolWonder]

He lost to Rice

You should no better than throwing out such ludacris info unless it benifits ignorant know it alls that have a list of twenty coaches ready and willing to come save our program from this nightmare

 

[utmba93]

We're talking about a mid major loser and a mid major winner. It's not like it's some random tossup.

Exactly, but that's hard for an excuse-ridden group so hellbent on what CDD will do, they don't have time to take note of what he or someone else has already done.

 

[KingNick865]

Lets say he is, Do you really think that "system" will work here and win championships like we all want? I don't see it.

Yes. Yes I do. We have some of the pieces already in place to run it.

 

[utmba93]

Lets say he is, Do you really think that "system" will work here and win championships like we all want? I don't see it.

Prolly suck like Urban's did. I'd hate to get stuck with 2 NC's watching that crap.

 

[utmba93]

Yes. Yes I do. We have some of the pieces already in place to run it.

As in WR u... I don't understand why any Vols fan fears the pass. Just not paying attention, I suspect.

 

[emainvol]

And Dooley lost to Idaho, Fresno State, and Utah State in the same year. Not exactly football powerhouses.

Ding ding ding. You can argue that Sumlin isnt the right guy to replace Dooley, but there is absolutely no argument as to who is a better coach

 

[Nationdom]

Yes. Yes I do. We have some of the pieces already in place to run it.

Fair enough. IMO he isn't what we need.

 

[Culbreath4Heisman]

I am not saying we should hire Sumlin but to agrue the original post, Sumlin doesn't use retarded analogies, war stories, and dogs to try to get his team ready to play football. These are 18-22 year olds who play for UT, not Harvard. Also, Sumlin wins, even if its against bad C-USA teams, unlike Dooley who couldn't win against WAC teams. Houston would have beaten the ever living shat out of Kentucky. I am not in favor of hiring Sumlin but he has more potential than Dooley.

 

[kcvols1]

Dooley coached at a lower level and sucked. Case Keenum is currently winning at a lower level.

fyp

 

[volstopfan14]

Prolly suck like Urban's did. I'd hate to get stuck with 2 NC's watching that crap.

Do you think Urban's spread and Sumlin's spread are similar?

 

[KingNick865]

Fair enough. IMO he isn't what we need.

He's my top choice out of the realistic candidates right now.

Of course, if you told me Chris Petersen or Gary Patterson would come here, I'd take them over Sumlin.

 

[utmba93]

Pay Sumlin... that probably leaves enough to get Chief back... and we're competing next year instead of talking about a recruiting class.

 

[emainvol]

Sumlin also isn't losing to teams he should be beating, publicly **** talking his team, lost more than Keenum in the year in question, and has a winning career record. I honestly don't care if you think Dooley should stay, because I can see the logic behind it, but he is a bad coach and there is nothing you can show me to prove otherwise.

 

[KingNick865]

I wouldn't want John Chavis back. The words "3rd and Chavis", still ring very clear in my memory.

 

[emainvol]

Fair enough. IMO he isn't what we need.

Who is? Because it isn't Dooley

 

[iuvol2012]

Who is? Because it isn't Dooley

But, but, but....firing him now means no stability :crazy::crazy:

 

[Nationdom]

Do you think Urban's spread and Sumlin's spread are similar?

No Urban is more run oriented with mobile QB. Sumlin's is more pass Happy with more of a pocket oriented QB.

 

[utmba93]

But, but, but....firing him now means no stability :crazy::crazy:

Exactly. We're on a stable path to win one less game a year for five more. Don't know what happens after that.

 

[Nationdom]

Who is? Because it isn't Dooley

It's not Dooley or Sumlin.