Confidence in CBJ and His Staff on The Field

[gordonr24]

I'll give him a 6. We have to remember that he hasn't had the personnel that would give him the ability to be more aggressive.

With more talent in place and more guys knowing his system, we'll know a lot more about his on-field coaching this season, and whether or not he is one to take gambles.

 

[Volador]

With the exception of the past few years, IMO the Vols have had plenty of talent to work with. My continued skepticism with the Vols football program is game day performances of the coaches. Good coaches help mediocre/good team over perform. Spurrier, who I loathe but do respect, is one of the best at this because for many years he knew how to exploit the weaknesses of the opposition.

We will field a good team this year on both sides of the ball but the coaches have to find it within themselves to maximize our strengths, minimize our weaknesses and exploit our opponents weaknesses. If they can do that, we will win 8+ games

 

[ImportedVoL]

SORRY.. but anyone voting below 3 or 4 is a complete dufuss. I can possibly see(not agree with but understand) someone voting in the 5-6 range with the florida game hot in their mind. But we won games we shouldn't have also. And he has completely dominated the Ol' ball coach.

 

[Wylo]

You do not know football. You name me one coach in football in college or NFL that could of took what Dooley left and win with them. Just look at the NFL draft the last couple years. Not many Vols were drafted. That is going to change with Butch in charge. We will take over the SEC before too much longer. And if we take over the SEC that means we are playing for National Championships.

You are kidding yourself if you truly believe the garbage you are saying. There are plenty of coaches that could've done the same or better. Stop acting like UT was in the worst shape of any program ever.

Dooley was garbage. Jones has been a pleasant surprise and deserves plenty of respect.

Those two things aside, let's wait before anointing Jones greatest ever.

Saying "we will take over the SEC soon" is a smidge ahead of yourself. Let's start by actually beating a good rival not named South Carolina.

Butch will do good things here, imo.
Just not miracle work. Other schools have faced similar trials in the past.


Edit:

Gave him a 5. He's equally capable of looking brilliant and looking lost.

 

[TAF]

SORRY.. but anyone voting below 3 or 4 is a complete dufuss. I can possibly see(not agree with but understand) someone voting in the 5-6 range with the florida game hot in their mind. But we won games we shouldn't have also. And he has completely dominated the Ol' ball coach.

I agree...yet I feel the same could be said for anyone voting 8, 9 or 10 as well...

 

[Volador]

I agree...yet I feel the same could be said for anyone voting 8, 9 or 10 as well...

Interesting that early on that the combined votes for 9 & 10 equaled the combined votes for 7 & 8. Right now it's trending more conservative and well, Negavols aren't disappointing us, are they?!!

 

[ncvol004]

he is a a lay back and play feild postion kind of coach in the first half or if his team get off to a big lead he lets his foot off the gas and it seems to kill us in the long run but if its 4th and 1 or 2 from the 50 in a close game he plays agressive like UGa in 2013 or mizzou fake field goal he has never went for the kill all but one time with iowa if he went for the kill vs the gators last year we win easy by 7 or 10 but got the lead and he laid off the gas .... i think with all the players that that he has now he will play alot more aggressive

 

[chargervol]

SORRY.. but anyone voting below 3 or 4 is a complete dufuss. I can possibly see(not agree with but understand) someone voting in the 5-6 range with the florida game hot in their mind. But we won games we shouldn't have also. And he has completely dominated the Ol' ball coach.

He won 1 game he shouldn't have and lost at least 1 he shouldn't have (most feel more than 1) but to be as fair a possible , let's go 1 and 1. Or 50/50. That's a 5 for me. Hopefully that changes this season and he comes away looking way ahead. All of this is just gameday though. Factor in his excellent recruiting and ambassadorship skills, his total score is already in high score range.

 

[VolForLife83]

I gave an 8 because I still question the offense. Might be a little high, but giving the benefit of doubt because of the o line last yr. Along with Worley and injuries at WR.

It'll be interesting to see how the offense performs with another yr under the o line, Dobbs starting and hopefully all the WRs. In waiting to see how play calling changes, how he manages close games.

Obviously Dobbs was the spark we needed last yr, but that Candy game was ugly. Hopefully we can be a little less predictable this yr. I'm still wondering if that was on Butch's part, or MB. The only games that really stand out last yr is the 2-3 minute come back against SC and how Dobbs got us back in the fight with Bama. Man that was one Bama loss I enjoyed in a way. That's when we knew Dobbs was for real and could be very special.

Hopefully Butch don't pull a Dooley and lose with talent. Though if not for the Sal hire, Dooley could possibly still be here. That's another story that don't even need brought up. I love Butch, think we got lucky, but there is still questions to be answered this yr and next year if we don't produce, he'll get the hot seat talk for sure.

 

[1974Vol]

Well even if you think he is a terrible gameday coach its not all that of a big deal. Most football people will tell you games are won or lost by Thursday. Game planning and preparation are way more important than "gameday" whatever that is. Basically you call a play and if it works you're a genius and if it doesn't you get a 3 in this poll. Case in point maybe biggest play of the 2014 season Worley sack and fumble in Florida game Tennessee has a receiver running wide open down East sideline. They rolled Worley and the play was there but he needs to release the ball and feel the pressure. Should have been a 70 yard TD. Great play call not so much on execution. One that went the other way.. they got Iowa on the ropes and deliver the KO with the half back TD pass. So like I say when your players execute the play call you're a great "gameday" coach and when they don't you suck.

 

[Tnwoodsman]

It appears that most posts on this thread are negative or a wait and see approach to whether Butch can coach in-game. However, the poll, at the time of my posting, shows ten percent negative and ninety percent pro(ten percent below average and ninety percent above average). Does that mean most all of the pro people do not post?

 

[onevol74]

The staff doesn't play the game:

On offense you have to have 11 guys doing their job for a play to work, that's why college games can be won by anyone if you don't bring your "A" game.

Defense all 11 players need to make the tackle in their area they are covering, you hear coaches talk about fits or miss fitting the play. We team speed 1-2 miss tackles and its a quick 6

Yes, but play calling and clock management fall to the coaching staff. And there are times this staff has demonstrated that they are learning on the job. Vanderbilt and UGA his first year and Florida last year are games that were decided by bonehead coaching decisions.

He is not unique in the SEC. Spurrier lost the game to us last year trying to pass the ball when he was very successful running the ball.

 

[TOP]

Answer:


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And now I want to watch Varsity Blues. It's a freakin 10.

Any movie where James Vander Beek gets the leading role over Paul Walker... it's gotta be good. Come on, Dawson.

 

[chargervol]

It appears that most posts on this thread are negative or a wait and see approach to whether Butch can coach in-game. However, the poll, at the time of my posting, shows ten percent negative and ninety percent pro(ten percent below average and ninety percent above average). Does that mean most all of the pro people do not post?

I imagine it's easier to vote 9-10, and not point to why.
I still believe many votes are faith, which is fine also. No sense in being concerned about it until if/when there's a reason.

 

[HoptownVol]

I think within 5 years, no one is going to argue that Butch isn't a Top 3 coach in the conference. But he's not there yet. However, as opposed to some
coaches we've had in the past, he does learn from his mistakes.

 

[MrBiggles]

Have to agree with Wylo and I never thought I would say that. There are times on game day he looks like a genius (the whole Iowa game) and then other times he looks lost (See Florida or Vandy in 2013). That being said he does have a signature win against the #4 team and has come close to beating a more talented Georgia team twice. The Georgia game in 2013 was the best I've seen the Vols play for a long time until the Iowa game.

 

[KBVol]

I think within 5 years, no one is going to argue that Butch isn't a Top 3 coach in the conference. But he's not there yet. However, as opposed to some
coaches we've had in the past, he does learn from his mistakes.

Perhaps, like a particular coach in the past, Butch can win 75% of his games, a national title, and a place in the collegiate football hall of fame.

 

[99gator]

I think he's your average coach.

If he's got better jimmy's and joe's, he'll win. If he doesn't, they'll lose.

I don't think he is the kind of guy that can steal games with his game plans or ability to win chess matches.

 

[butchna]

I think he's your average coach.

If he's got better jimmy's and joe's, he'll win. If he doesn't, they'll lose.

I don't think he is the kind of guy that can steal games with his game plans or ability to win chess matches.

Kinda like your current coach...cept for the recruiting prowess.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I imagine it's easier to vote 9-10, and not point to why.
I still believe many votes are faith, which is fine also. No sense in being concerned about it until if/when there's a reason.

Well, Charger, this whole thread is really just about faith. Because truth be told, almost none of us are remotely qualified to judge his performance as a "gameday/game week" coach. We simply aren't.

I sit in my recliner and watch the game on the tube, popping gaskets left and right when I think the use of the jet sweep was ill advised. I understand it at the "checkers" level. Meanwhile, there's a chess match going on behind the scenes and no one really understands it in all its nuance besides the two head coaches, their O and D coordinators, maybe a few of the brightest position coaches, and (maybe small chance) one or two of the most savvy players (think a 22 year old Peyton Manning).

Everything we think we know is about the clothing draped over the body, and we believe we're ready to do open heart surgery.

We're all acting on faith. A few a little less than the rest of us, true, there are some RL coaches among us, like LWS and 8188, who understand more than most (and still, if they're being honest, admit they don't know what's going on between the coaching coordinators in real time).

And I'm not belittling us for our lack of knowledge, I have as much fun at it as everyone else. Just gotta recognize how little we really know about the "gameday coaching" that's really happening, the true give and take between the two sidelines.

We're all acting on faith here. I have faith in Butch. He's my coach, and I'm proud to have him. I think he's gonna take us to championships in the coming years. Go Vols!

 

[chargervol]

I'm sticking with "I haven't seen enough".

I have seen Urban Meyer and I have seen Derek Mason. Eventually, there is enough evidence that we simple folk can judge :good!:

 

[99gator]

Kinda like your current coach...cept for the recruiting prowess.

A word of warning for those of you who are choosing to mock the recruiting efforts of Coach Mac at this point.

I would check out where these kids are from. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Vol knight]

7 is a good number. I think he has had some bright moments, but this is the year when we really find out how good he is and can be.

 

[butchna]

A word of warning for those of you who are choosing to mock the recruiting efforts of Coach Mac at this point.

I would check out where these kids are from. I'll leave it at that.

Thanks for the "warning" ole faithful protector of our interests. From our untrained vantage , it just looks like he sucks at this recruiting thing. :wink2:

 

[msams75]

Why didn't one of you posters apply to be coach? You've had plenty of opportunities to over the last 6 years.