Concern? Offensive signals still not installed.

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"Kiffin said he's relatively pleased with the amount of offense installed in camp, but he needs to spend less time in the huddle and more time preparing his players for their sideline signals. He also stayed in the offensive huddle for spring's Orange and White game.

"Without getting into too much detail about our plan of what we signal and what we don't, we do have to start transitioning to some of that, and how we do that," Kiffin said. "I'll have to get out of the huddle eventually. It's kind of like having a baby, and you've got to wean him off the bottle eventually.


"It's fun, because we're so competitive and want to be in there making sure they're doing things right and helping them out, but by Saturday, I'll probably have to stop doing that."...


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I've been a bit of a harpie about this since spring, and I'm a little disappointed to hear that offensive signals are still not really fully addressed.
 
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What good are signals if they can't run the plays right?

Having half the offense installed and they run it like clockwork is much better IMO than "throwing everything at them and seeing what sticks".
 
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justingroves said:
What good are signals if they can't run the plays right?

Having half the offense installed and they run it like clockwork is much better IMO than "throwing everything at them and seeing what sticks".
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You're right of course... But I've got this scenario in the back of my head where a scoring opportunity is missed because the play was misunderstood.

You need rythm with the signal calling as well..
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
You're right of course... But I've got this scenario in the back of my head where a scoring opportunity is missed because the play was misunderstood.

You need rythm with the signal calling as well..
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That's why the WKU game could be ugly at times. There's still 21 days until the 1st game. The offense isn't going to be spectacular anyways. As long as they get signals in for run left, run right run up the middle, play action pass we'll be ok :p
 
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At this point, I'd be fine just running the play calls into the huddle with a sub.
 
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Wow. That's kind of huge.

How can you have a football team with know sideline signals at this point in the year? What's LK's plan? Run out into the huddle every play to make the call?

Someone should shoot him an email and let him know the season starts in 3 weeks.
 
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Makes perfect sense to me. This team was nill on confidence coming in to 09. No sense making it worse by throwing the kitchen sink at them. Hit the hole hard, tackle, and avoid mental screw ups first, then find out if they can handle a game plan. Is it me, or does it really feel good to know this staff has a PLAN? If Fulmer was still here right now, I would probably be pulling my hair out listening to the same old garbage.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Wow. That's kind of huge.

How can you have a football team with know sideline signals at this point in the year? What's LK's plan? Run out into the huddle every play to make the call?

Someone should shoot him an email and let him know the season starts in 3 weeks.
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As stated above, you run in the play call with the sub. It was done for years and works quite well. We had a long way to go on offense so staying in the huddle was needed to this point. Nice try at a cheap shot but you fail
 
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AFL2008 said:
Wow. That's kind of huge.

How can you have a football team with know sideline signals at this point in the year? What's LK's plan? Run out into the huddle every play to make the call?

Someone should shoot him an email and let him know the season starts in 3 weeks.
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What's the big deal? It's not like you can't just run tell a WR "I Right Y Jet 36 Blast" and send him onto the field to tell the QB. It's old school, but it's still done that way in a lot of places.

It's a football play; not a nuclear secret. It's just not nearly as complicated as people want it to be.
 
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DougVol said:
Makes perfect sense to me. This team was nill on confidence coming in to 09. No sense making it worse by throwing the kitchen sink at them. Hit the hole hard, tackle, and avoid mental screw ups first, then find out if they can handle a game plan. Is it me, or does it really feel good to know this staff has a PLAN? If Fulmer was still here right now, I would probably be pulling my hair out listening to the same old garbage.
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Exactly....I still miss hearing "Let me look at the film":)
 
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Sounds like the gameplan has been simplified to a point that lane doesn't think that will be a big deal. Crompton will be given two or three plays and it'll be his job to get them in the proper one. Yeah western kentucky will be their trail by fire so to speak to get that worked out. I really don't see it being that big of a deal.
 
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I suppose the signals are actually just a reference to a number on a wrist band... perhaps it's not so complicated at all.

Still, you want everyone to be comfortable with it..
 
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Here is my simple take on this. If JC knows the play signal but has no idea how to run the play, what good is that situation. I would rather the team be efficient at running the called plays and learn the signal after the fact.
 
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GAVol said:
What's the big deal? It's not like you can't just run tell a WR "I Right Y Jet 36 Blast" and send him onto the field to tell the QB. It's old school, but it's still done that way in a lot of places.

It's a football play; not a nuclear secret. It's just not nearly as complicated as people want it to be.
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I agree. I am for whatever helps Jon conserve enough brain matter to know where his receivers will be once the ball is snapped. Run it in with the receivers.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Wow. That's kind of huge.

How can you have a football team with know sideline signals at this point in the year? What's LK's plan? Run out into the huddle every play to make the call?

Someone should shoot him an email and let him know the season starts in 3 weeks.
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Maybe you should go back to look at the film and learn the difference between "no" and "know.". It's 3 weeks before the season and you are having trouble grasping that concept.

I would say you're (or "your" if it makes more "since" to you) better than that, but that would be a lie. You troll.
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I guarantee you that all the staff and and the players know most of the signals. That is part of the playbook for each position. What Kiffin is talking about is more of a continuity or flow issue: knowing down and distance, choosing a play, signaling the play into the offense, interperting the signals, the QB calling the play, getting the team to the line of scrimmage within a certain timeframe to allow for checks. Hell, that sounds complicated, get to work or get a wristband!
 
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Sorry about the know typo.

Seriously though, it seems like you extremely limit your play calling ability from the sidelines if you have to physically send in a player with the play call for all 50-60 offensive plays in the game.

When Spurrier went two QB's, he would just tell them the play and rotate them in and out, but he would still signal for an audbile from the sideline.
 
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Lofton4Three said:
Maybe you should go back to look at the film and learn the difference between "no" and "know.". It's 3 weeks before the season and you are having trouble grasping that concept.

I would say you're (or "your" if it makes more since to you) better than that, but that would be a lie. You troll.
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Sorry... had to laugh at that...
 
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GAVol said:
What's the big deal? It's not like you can't just run tell a WR "I Right Y Jet 36 Blast" and send him onto the field to tell the QB. It's old school, but it's still done that way in a lot of places.

It's a football play; not a nuclear secret. It's just not nearly as complicated as people want it to be.
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I agree. It's not that big of a deal.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Sorry about the know typo.

Seriously though, it seems like you extremely limit your play calling ability from the sidelines if you have to physically send in a player with the play call for all 50-60 offensive plays in the game.

When Spurrier went two QB's, he would just tell them the play and rotate them in and out, but he would still signal for an audbile from the sideline.
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You're making a bigger deal out of this than it really is.
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Lofton4Three said:
Maybe you should go back to look at the film and learn the difference between "no" and "know.". It's 3 weeks before the season and you are having trouble grasping that concept.

I would say you're (or "your" if it makes more "since" to you) better than that, but that would be a lie. You troll.
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Wow. Sensitive.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Sorry about the know typo.

Seriously though, it seems like you extremely limit your play calling ability from the sidelines if you have to physically send in a player with the play call for all 50-60 offensive plays in the game.

When Spurrier went two QB's, he would just tell them the play and rotate them in and out, but he would still signal for an audbile from the sideline.
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The article never said we would not have any play calls from the sideline so don't act as gameday is tomorrow. And we can get enough plays in with sending the play call to the huddle.
 
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