Comparison of this year's (potential) recruiting class with the best in UT history

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I have already seen speculation on how this class might compare with some of the best in UT's history and I ran across an article (Tennessee Football Recruiting: The 10 Greatest Recruiting Classes Since 1980 | Bleacher Report) that could provide some perspective on the matter. I realize that its source, bleacherreport.com, automatically raises a red flag in the minds of many UT fans. If nothing else, however, this data should illustrate just how quickly we forget the recruiting juggernaut that Fulmer once orchestrated. According to this source, Tennessee’s best recruiting classes since 1980, based purely on final Rivals.com rankings, are as follows:

1994: Rivals No. 2 Class. “The 1994 class was revered because it boasted two of the top quarterback prospects in the country. When future NFL Hall of Famer Peyton Manning became the choice early in the 1994 season, the second of that duo, Brandon Stewart, transferred. This class didn't feature a ton of stars. Between Marcus Nash, Terry Fair, Jonathan Brown and, of course, Manning there's plenty of starpower to land this group among the top two ever at Tennessee. The '94 signing class was a part of three bowl wins and an SEC title.”

2000: Rivals No. 2 Class. “With the Vols coming out of the highly successful 1990s, the 29 players in this class were expected to be a huge part of continuing Tennessee's winning tradition. Ultimately, this class never won a conference championship and won just one bowl game. The quarterback signed in this class ended up as one of the Vols most prolific passers, however. Casey Clausen led fellow '00 signees Jason Witten and Mark Jones through one of the more offensively gifted eras in recent UT history.”

2002: Rivals No. 2 Class.

1996: Rivals No. 3 Class. “Shaun Ellis, Darwin Walker, Eric Westmoreland, Raynoch Thompson and Tee Martin were all members of this class. Those names are hallowed in Knoxville as the core group of players that landed Tennessee its first consensus national championship since 1951. . . . This class experienced two bowl wins, two SEC titles and the first-ever BCS National Championship.”

2007: Rivals No. 3 Class. “Thirteen members of this 32-member class either didn't qualify, were released from their scholarships or transferred. When the class signed, there was all sorts of promise. It finished as one of the most disappointing signing classes in program history.”

Two other recruiting classes that deserve special mention because of their productivity are the 1995 and 1997 classes:

1997: Rivals No. 5 Class. “The best way to begin this slide is with a list of names.

•Deon Grant
•Travis Henry
•Jamal Lewis
•Travis Stephens
•Andre Lott
•Cedrick Wilson
•Cosey Coleman
•David Martin

Recognize any or all of those names? One is the all-time leading rusher in Tennessee history (Henry). Another (Grant) is currently in his 12th year in the NFL. Lewis was one of the NFL's leading rushers for nearly half a decade. There is over 70 years of NFL experience from this signing class. All of these players were integral pieces of the Vols' championship run in '98. Members of this class won two SEC titles and one national championship.”

1995: Rivals No. 12 Class. “A class that included such Vols royalty as Chad Clifton, Leonard Little and Peerless Price was the senior class that experienced the Vols national title in 1998.

This class was a part of three bowl wins, two SEC titles and, of course, the 1998 BCS title.”
 
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It all depends on how we close with DL, OL and LB'ers. I'm pumped to get so many weapons on offense but we have to get some defensive studs and most of them wait until crunch time to commit.

As of today the top six classes in the SEC have a combined total of two DT commitments so it's not like we're behind. Still it would be nice to get a couple of stud lineman committed.
 
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Number 1 class, here we come.

#RiseToThetop
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#RelentlessPursuitOfContinuousImprovement
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I thought we didn't need top talent just 3 stars that want to wear the orange n coachem up....lol if we recruit that type Of talent the wins will come no doubt.
 
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2002 #2 ranked class had a lot of unrealized potential

James Banks 5 stars (kicked off team)
Heath Benedict 4 stars (quit school)
Mondre Dickerson 5 stars (never played at 5 star level)
LaRon Harris 4 stars (dropped out for academics)
Brandon Jeffries 5 stars (xfer to NC State)
Aaron Kirkland 4 stars (quit school)
 
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the 96 and 97 classes while not having Peyton had the best two classes of stars at UT 12 great players in those two classes 1qb 1 te 1 wr 3 rb 1 ol and two great dl 2 great lb 2 very good db.and you never mentioned the fact Davi Martin played several years for the dolphins and a few for the Chargers
 
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Can you really ever compare a recruiting class until at least 10 years after they sign? I mean, you can get a pretty good idea about 4 years after, because that's the length of their college career...but even more than that, you should give them a few years in the NFL.

I mean, I think this on paper is a great recruiting class we are putting together. But the analysis there is based off of what they did during/after their career at UT, and this class hasn't even signed on the dotted line yet.

We have had other classes of "top athletes" (see Kiffin's class), but they didn't have a solid career here at UT, and most of them didn't pan out anywhere.

I'm just saying, there's no way to know until many years from now. That being said, we have 31 spots this year...I'm hoping for 31 of 32 1st round draft picks being Vols in 4 years. :)
 
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It all depends on how we close with DL, OL and LB'ers. I'm pumped to get so many weapons on offense but we have to get some defensive studs and most of them wait until crunch time to commit.

As of today the top six classes in the SEC have a combined total of two DT commitments so it's not like we're behind. Still it would be nice to get a couple of stud lineman committed.

And, unfortunately, the state of Tennessee rarely produces SEC-caliber defensive linemen, particularly tackles. It is a longstanding Achilles heel in terms of our recruiting efforts. By contrast, homegrown SEC-quality offensive linemen aren't that difficult to find.
 
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And, unfortunately, the state of Tennessee rarely produces SEC-caliber defensive linemen, particularly tackles. It is a longstanding Achilles heel in terms of our recruiting efforts. By contrast, homegrown SEC-quality offensive linemen aren't that difficult to find.

John Henderson, Aubrayo Franklin, and Justin Harrell disagree
 
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If memory serves me correctly, the overall retention average is ca. 60%. In other words, 4 out of every 10 signees will fail to complete their eligibility at the university with whom they signed, due to dropout, transfer, early departure for the NFL, academic washout, or medical problems. Personally, success in the NFL is a bonus but, from my orange-biased perspective, I am far more concerned with how productive they are on the collegiate gridiron.
 
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If memory serves me correctly, the overall retention average is ca. 60%. In other words, 4 out of every 10 signees will fail to complete their eligibility at the university with whom they signed, due to dropout, transfer, early departure for the NFL, academic washout, or medical problems. Personally, success in the NFL is a bonus but, from my orange-biased perspective, I am far more concerned with how productive they are on the collegiate gridiron.

Good point. What they achieve after, IMO, is something to be proud of as Tennesseans (being that this is Tennessee's team), but not related to their direct contribution to my team.

Their overall success and contribution in college, as it pertains to this discussion, is all that matters.
#VolunteerState - best hashtag I've seen
 
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I have already seen speculation on how this class might compare with some of the best in UT's history and I ran across an article (Tennessee Football Recruiting: The 10 Greatest Recruiting Classes Since 1980 | Bleacher Report) that could provide some perspective on the matter. I realize that its source, bleacherreport.com, automatically raises a red flag in the minds of many UT fans. If nothing else, however, this data should illustrate just how quickly we forget the recruiting juggernaut that Fulmer once orchestrated. According to this source, Tennessee’s best recruiting classes since 1980, based purely on final Rivals.com rankings, are as follows:

1994: Rivals No. 2 Class. “The 1994 class was revered because it boasted two of the top quarterback prospects in the country. When future NFL Hall of Famer Peyton Manning became the choice early in the 1994 season, the second of that duo, Brandon Stewart, transferred. This class didn't feature a ton of stars. Between Marcus Nash, Terry Fair, Jonathan Brown and, of course, Manning there's plenty of starpower to land this group among the top two ever at Tennessee. The '94 signing class was a part of three bowl wins and an SEC title.”

2000: Rivals No. 2 Class. “With the Vols coming out of the highly successful 1990s, the 29 players in this class were expected to be a huge part of continuing Tennessee's winning tradition. Ultimately, this class never won a conference championship and won just one bowl game. The quarterback signed in this class ended up as one of the Vols most prolific passers, however. Casey Clausen led fellow '00 signees Jason Witten and Mark Jones through one of the more offensively gifted eras in recent UT history.”

2002: Rivals No. 2 Class.

1996: Rivals No. 3 Class. “Shaun Ellis, Darwin Walker, Eric Westmoreland, Raynoch Thompson and Tee Martin were all members of this class. Those names are hallowed in Knoxville as the core group of players that landed Tennessee its first consensus national championship since 1951. . . . This class experienced two bowl wins, two SEC titles and the first-ever BCS National Championship.”

2007: Rivals No. 3 Class. “Thirteen members of this 32-member class either didn't qualify, were released from their scholarships or transferred. When the class signed, there was all sorts of promise. It finished as one of the most disappointing signing classes in program history.”

Two other recruiting classes that deserve special mention because of their productivity are the 1995 and 1997 classes:

1997: Rivals No. 5 Class. “The best way to begin this slide is with a list of names.

•Deon Grant
•Travis Henry
•Jamal Lewis
•Travis Stephens
•Andre Lott
•Cedrick Wilson
•Cosey Coleman
•David Martin

Recognize any or all of those names? One is the all-time leading rusher in Tennessee history (Henry). Another (Grant) is currently in his 12th year in the NFL. Lewis was one of the NFL's leading rushers for nearly half a decade. There is over 70 years of NFL experience from this signing class. All of these players were integral pieces of the Vols' championship run in '98. Members of this class won two SEC titles and one national championship.”

1995: Rivals No. 12 Class. “A class that included such Vols royalty as Chad Clifton, Leonard Little and Peerless Price was the senior class that experienced the Vols national title in 1998.

This class was a part of three bowl wins, two SEC titles and, of course, the 1998 BCS title.”


IMO- 2010 is one of the top classes as well:
Zach F. - 4 star -2014 NFL 1st 3 round pick
James S. - 4 star -2014 NFL 1st 3 rounds pick
Ja'Wuan J. - 4 star- 2014 NFL 1st 3 rounds pick
Justin Hunter- 4 star - 1st 2 rounds pick 2013
Darick Rogers- 5 star- 1st 2 rounds pick 2013
Tyler Bray - 4 star 1st 3 rounds pick 2013
Corey Miller- 4 star - 5th to 7th round pick
Rajon Neal- 4 star- 4th round to 6th round pick
Jaqueze Smith - 4 Star - 2nd threw 4 round pick]Matt Milton - 4 star- transferred- thanks Dooley
Michael P. 3- star late 2014 NFL selection
John Propst. 3 star
Channing Fugate 3 star
Mychal R. - 3 star 2013 NFL 3rd to 5th round selection
Ted Medline - 4 star transferred
Dontavis Sapp- 2 star - now playing a big role
Marques Pair- 3 star now playing a role

Problem with those players they were coach by DD and that was a waste of major talent.
 
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IMO- 2010 is one of the top classes as well:
Zach F. - 4 star -2014 NFL 1st 3 round pick
James S. - 4 star -2014 NFL 1st 3 rounds pick
Ja'Wuan J. - 4 star- 2014 NFL 1st 3 rounds pick
Justin Hunter- 4 star - 1st 2 rounds pick 2013
Darick Rogers- 5 star- 1st 2 rounds pick 2013
Tyler Bray - 4 star 1st 3 rounds pick 2013
Corey Miller- 4 star - 5th to 7th round pick
Rajon Neal- 4 star- 4th round to 6th round pick
Jaqueze Smith - 4 Star - 2nd threw 4 round pick]Matt Milton - 4 star- transferred- thanks Dooley
Michael P. 3- star late 2014 NFL selection
John Propst. 3 star
Channing Fugate 3 star
Mychal R. - 3 star 2013 NFL 3rd to 5th round selection
Ted Medline - 4 star transferred
Dontavis Sapp- 2 star - now playing a big role
Marques Pair- 3 star now playing a role

Problem with those players they were coach by DD and that was a waste of major talent.
 
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I forget which year it was, but Fulmer had a class with 8 top 100 players. It was before Scout and Rivals, and I can't remember whose rating service had them with eight. Best Class I can remember for top 100 players.
 
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Aubrayo Franklin- Johnson City Science Hill. How many overlooked this kid?

He signed with the Colts this year, pumped about that. Now I'm hearing we could have a shot at CP at the 24 selection. That would be so sweet.
David Martin was a good football player, I'm glad I saw his name, I forgot all about him.
 
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Aubrayo Franklin and Justin Harrell were solid performers at the defensive tackle position. The only homegrown, truly dominant defensive tackles that I can think of in the entire history of Tennessee football are John Henderson, Reggie White and Doug Atkins. Those three absolutely tower over anyone else who ever played the position at UT and was from the Volunteer State.
 

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