Combined win loss record of the teams we beat , on our way to a 10-2 regular season record.

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I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!
 
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#1n51&98 said:
50-70
I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!
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I think it has to be looked at more deeply than just overall opponents' records. Notre Dame isn't in a conference, so they have to schedule every game themselves. They typically play a couple MAC teams, a couple service academies and the rest are ACC teams(since they started being an ACC team in other sports) and USC. Despite the records, MAC teams and service academy teams aren't very high quality teams. Army and Navy had their best seasons in recent memory and still weren't any significant threat. The best actual teams Notre Dame played this year were Texas A&M(8-4), Louisville(8-4), Georgia Tech(7-5) and USC(6-6). The overall opponents record gets inflated by the MAC teams and service academies having decent to good record against their level of competition. Conversely, our opponents' record was negatively skewed by our MAC opponent(Kent St) finishing 0-12 and Mississippi St/Kentucky finishing a combined 6-18.
 
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Notre Dame had Army and Navy with good records. Do we really think they are as good as those records? Notre Dame also got the worst team from the ACC, the 14th team from the ACC, and the worst team from the Big Ten. It was like a round robin of suck on their schedule. Our SOS blows ND out of the water.
 
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Playing devils advocate , is never a popular position . Combined win loss record of all 12 of our opponents this season is 66-78 46 % , if you round up . If that is considered a good strength of schedule , then my definition of strength of schedule is way off . Our only marquee win was against a 9-3 Bama team , most would agree the worst Bama team in 15 years . I am just stating the arguments our enemies will be making behind closed doors , for the next two weeks.
I think we definitely make the 12 team playoff , but in my opinion we will be very fortunate to land a 5-8 spot , when it's all said and done .
 
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We are ranked 6, 2 in front of us will lose. Because 4 play each other. Losing a cc game might not hurt you for getting in, but can impact seeding. If UGA looses and PSU gets walloped we could be 4th ranked with a 6 seed. At it stands now we should be 6th ranked and 8th seed and hosting at worse.
 
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#1n51&98 said:
Playing devils advocate , is never a popular position . Combined win loss record of all 12 of our opponents this season is 66-78 46 % , if you round up . If that is considered a good strength of schedule , then my definition of strength of schedule is way off . Our only marquee win was against a 9-3 Bama team , most would agree the worst Bama team in 15 years . I am just stating the arguments our enemies will be making behind closed doors , for the next two weeks.
I think we definitely make the 12 team playoff , but in my opinion we will be very fortunate to land a 5-8 spot , when it's all said and done .
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The difference is the SEC is beating each other up. Notre Dame is scheduling games with a weak ACC conference.

A better comparison to me is how have TN opponents done against teams from other Power 4 conferences.
 
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#1n51&98 said:
50-70
I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!
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Notre Dame is greatly helped by the records of Army and Navy, not exactly powerhouse teams.
 
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When is someone going to take a stand and force Notre Dame to actually play against real competition? Their record in the SEC would match Vanderbilt.
 
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#1n51&98 said:
Playing devils advocate , is never a popular position . Combined win loss record of all 12 of our opponents this season is 66-78 46 % , if you round up . If that is considered a good strength of schedule , then my definition of strength of schedule is way off . Our only marquee win was against a 9-3 Bama team , most would agree the worst Bama team in 15 years . I am just stating the arguments our enemies will be making behind closed doors , for the next two weeks.
I think we definitely make the 12 team playoff , but in my opinion we will be very fortunate to land a 5-8 spot , when it's all said and done .
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I think they will make the arguments very publically
 
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#1n51&98 said:
50-70
I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!
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We played some bad teams record wise but we also Played 7 Bowl eligible >6 wins, and I think Miss State would have a better record just 2 OOC wins if they played Notre Dame's schedule. They were not a bad team as their record it's just tough in the SEC, they scored 31 on Georgia, same with Kentucky they usually get 6 wins just 4 this year and a 13 to 10 loss to Georgia. SEC somebody has to take the losses not everybody can win 10 toughest conference top to bottom by far.
 
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Imo, your whole body of work gets you in the playoffs and the "what have you done for me lately" determines your seed. Ohio State is more deserving of a playoff spot than Tennessee. Flame all you want but it's true. They defeated 2 playoff teams, one on the road, with little effort. They also had the best team in the country on the ropes in their house. BUT losing to Michigan, without their best players, in your house means you shouldn't host. This is why I don't have an issue with a team you beat being ranked ahead of you (Penn state / tosu for example) because what have you done lately matters. It's why we have a weekly poll.
 
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#1n51&98 said:
Playing devils advocate , is never a popular position . Combined win loss record of all 12 of our opponents this season is 66-78 46 % , if you round up . If that is considered a good strength of schedule , then my definition of strength of schedule is way off . Our only marquee win was against a 9-3 Bama team , most would agree the worst Bama team in 15 years . I am just stating the arguments our enemies will be making behind closed doors , for the next two weeks.
I think we definitely make the 12 team playoff , but in my opinion we will be very fortunate to land a 5-8 spot , when it's all said and done .
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I believe ESPN’s strength of schedule is based on your opponent and also your opponent’s opponents. Then you take the total winning percentage and multiple by .04. So it’s not just who you play but also who your opponents are playing also. That’s why all of the SEC schedules are rated so highly on a yearly basis.
 
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#1n51&98 said:
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I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!
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You don't learn much about a team by noticing the terrible teams it beat. That only tells you that your team isn't completely terrible.

Kent State could be 1-11, dragging that number way down, or it could be 9-3, helping the number be stronger, and it makes absolutely NO difference in assessing how good a team we are. We beat a team we shoulda beat. That's all it says.

Same for UT-Chattanooga, 1-11 or 9-3. Doesn't matter. Same for Kentucky. Same for UTEP. Same for Vandy.

Notre Dame plays a bunch of 8-4 midgets and beats them all. We play a bunch of 2-10 midgets and beat them all. Does that mean anything? Does it tell us whether we're better or worse than Notre Dame? Of course not. Just that both teams won the games they should win.

So don't worry about 50-70. It is meaningless.

Go Vols!
 
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#1n51&98 said:
50-70
I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!
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57th SOS vs 28th....but go on

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YankeeVol said:
57th SOS vs 28th....but go on

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Yes this is what gets me, its easy to go look at SOS but a supposed Vol Fan all day, his words writes a long paragraph lauding a Notre Dame team that has a Heinz 57 SOS. Oregon SOS is 60 but their undefeated, ND lost to Northern eastern western Illinois 🤣
I just cant figure some of these so called fans. 🤔1733189572276.png
 
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Ernie McCracken said:
And (If my math is correct) we did play 6 bowl eligible teams and won 4 of 6. Several at the time or preseason were ranked! NCST, Okla., Bama. That should help with SOS.

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This is after everyone was saying we had only beaten 1 or 2 teams with a winning record just a few weeks ago. That’s why you always let the season play out. You never know which teams will improve late in the season. Take Florida for instance. They are 7-5 but the way they are playing I bet nobody in the country would want to play them. If they didn’t play a gauntlet of a schedule they might have a better record.
 
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mackievol said:
When is someone going to take a stand and force Notre Dame to actually play against real competition? Their record in the SEC would match Vanderbilt.
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They probably thought not allowing to ever get a bye would "show them" but now a lot of teams prefer the home game and not.play the extra conf champ game that could hurt their seeding anyway. So ND is probably fine with it.
 
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