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Of course they do, why wouldn't they? Until the University of Tennessee shows that they can win any big game, especially vs a team that has absolutely, completely and thoroughly dominated them since the Carter Administration, what fool would actually pick them in a game like this? Makes no sense. This pick is a pure, 100% indictment of Tennessee and has nothing to do with a bad Florida team...as it should be until Tennessee gets out of its 40 year funk vs the Gators.
 
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KBVol said:
...since the Carter Administration...40 year funk vs the Gators.
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A bit over the top. UT owned the gators for most of the history. Doug Dickey returned them to relevance and Spurrier took them on higher. The current record is something like 19-25 in the gator's favor and that was built on 10 years in a row with 30% under Dooley and another 20% under his recruiting classes. With the resurgence of Miami, UF is about to return to irrelevance.
 
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Not a shock, and it goes along with how I see this game as well. I expect nationally, the picks being 60% UF to 40% UT.

We are, and should be, in "show me" mode.

There no tangible reason to believe we're going to win one of these until we do.

And I'm fine with that.
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
A bit over the top. UT owned the gators for most of the history. Doug Dickey returned them to relevance and Spurrier took them on higher. The current record is something like 19-25 in the gator's favor and that was built on 10 years in a row with 30% under Dooley and another 20% under his recruiting classes. With the resurgence of Miami, UF is about to return to irrelevance.
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The more you know....

We were dominant vs Florida in a series that was played sporadically from 1916-1971....Tennessee was ahead in the series at that point 13-2.

Since 1976 however, Florida has thoroughly dominated the series, not even close, 23-6.

From 1976-1997, Florida won 10 of 12
From 1998-2014, Florida has won 13 of 17.

And just for reference, Jimmy Carter was, regrettably, elected president of the United States in 1976....the same year that Florida began their current 23-6 run vs Tennessee.

Also, Tennessee dominated Florida the first 15 times they played, which is hardly "for most of history", given that Florida has in turn dominated Tennessee for approximately twice the number of games since.
 
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The interesting thing about the pick is that it basically says what you guys said. There's no real reason to pick UF.... except that UT hasn't beaten them for 10 years.
 
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sjt18 said:
The interesting thing about the pick is that it basically says what you guys said. There's no real reason to pick UF.... except that UT hasn't beaten them for 10 years.
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Exactly. And I'm fine with that.
 
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sjt18 said:
The interesting thing about the pick is that it basically says what you guys said. There's no real reason to pick UF.... except that UT hasn't beaten them for 10 years.
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You didn't read all that stuff about their defense shutting down an SEC opponent by basically tossing them all over the field? Most people who pick uf cite their defense and their home field. I think UT would be 10 point favorites if this game were in Knoxville.
 
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DCompagnucci said:
You didn't read all that stuff about their defense shutting down an SEC opponent by basically tossing them all over the field? Most people who pick uf cite their defense and their home field. I think UT would be 10 point favorites if this game were in Knoxville.
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When was the last time UT was a 10 point favorite over any SEC team not namd Kentucky or Vanderbilt?
 
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Had forgotten that Johnny Majors was about as successful as Fulmer against the Gators.

10/12/1991 @ *Florida (10-2) L 18 35
10/13/1990 vs. *Florida (9-2) W 45 3
10/12/1985 @ *Florida (9-1-1) L 10 17
10/13/1984 vs. *Florida (9-1-1) L 30 43
10/22/1977 @ *Florida (6-4-1) L 17 27
 
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I still don't understand the score. 23-21?? I'm sorry but Florida won't score four times against UT. If UF wins, and they very well may, it will be to the tune of 14-10 or so.
 
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DCompagnucci said:
You didn't read all that stuff about their defense shutting down an SEC opponent by basically tossing them all over the field? Most people who pick uf cite their defense and their home field. I think UT would be 10 point favorites if this game were in Knoxville.
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You do realize you are talking about UK, right? Not surprised you didn't want to mention which SEC opponent. To add just a bit of perspective, UK had the least total O vs USCe of any of their opponents. So let's not pretend that UK's O is a juggernaut loaded with next level talent...
 
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sjt18 said:
You do realize you are talking about UK, right? Not surprised you didn't want to mention which SEC opponent. To add just a bit of perspective, UK had the least total O vs USCe of any of their opponents. So let's not pretend that UK's O is a juggernaut loaded with next level talent...
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You saw that too did ya. LOL
 
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Every evaluation of our program should read...until coach jones decides to have his team play and attack for 60 minutes, were picking the opponent. We've blown every lead we've had during jones tenure so far against good opponents. And that includes the only good wins (usc). In bith wins we blew big leads before being able to come back.
 
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TBtheGBwiththeTD said:
I still don't understand the score. 23-21?? I'm sorry but Florida won't score four times against UT. If UF wins, and they very well may, it will be to the tune of 14-10 or so.
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They could get to 23 very easily without their offense clicking, just like they've done before. Pick 6, strip sack scoop and score, 1 offensive TD and 1 fg.....that's 24 points.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Every evaluation of our program should read...until coach jones decides to have his team play and attack for 60 minutes, were picking the opponent. We've blown every lead we've had during jones tenure so far against good opponents. And that includes the only good wins (usc). In bith wins we blew big leads before being able to come back.
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The saddest part about this whole week and our current mindset as a fan base is that it hasn't mattered who the coaches have been.

Fulmer, kiffin, Dooley, jones.... Nor has it matters who they go against.... Spurrier, zook, Meyer, muschamp. ..,, they've gotten the better of us.

This program in general needs to get this mental hurdle over with.

But it hasn't mattered who our coach has been and it hasn't mattered who their coach has been. So I do get just tired of the win this game or else" mentality.

Honestly that is probably part of the problem at this point
 
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KBVol said:
They could get to 23 very easily without their offense clicking, just like they've done before. Pick 6, strip sack scoop and score, 1 offensive TD and 1 fg.....that's 24 points.
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So getting two defensive TD's against a team with 1 turnover through three games is very easy?
 
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As much as I want to bash this pick, because of how much I love UT/hate UF, picking us to lose is understandable.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Every evaluation of our program should read...until coach jones decides to have his team play and attack for 60 minutes, were picking the opponent. We've blown every lead we've had during jones tenure so far against good opponents. And that includes the only good wins (usc). In bith wins we blew big leads before being able to come back.
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You do realize we did not blow the Iowa lead right? You also realize that we played the first 2 years of his coaching tenure here with Fooley's players while working to develope his own. I would like for you to go to work today, allow some stranger who does not know what you do pick out the tools you will use nd complete you job with those tools and 1/3 of the needed resources. Would be hard to accomplish right?
 
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TBtheGBwiththeTD said:
So getting two defensive TD's against a team with 1 turnover through three games is very easy?
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Have you watched the Tennessee-Florida series over the years? Florida has been great at scoring in unconventional ways.

Last week Dobbs threw two balls late to the flat vs WCU that would've been interceptions vs Florida, perhaps even pick 6s. Also, their pass rush is outstanding....I could very easily see a Dobbs sack and fumble going the other way...kinda like in the OU game when we lucked out and the refs called the play dead early. I could also see a special teams TD or 2 for Florida. They CAN get to 23-24 points without doing a whole lot offensively....it's happened many times before in this series.
 
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KBVol said:
Have you watched the Tennessee-Florida series over the years? Florida has been great at scoring in unconventional ways.

Last week Dobbs threw two balls late to the flat vs WCU that would've been interceptions vs Florida, perhaps even pick 6s. Also, their pass rush is outstanding....I could very easily see a Dobbs sack and fumble going the other way...kinda like in the OU game when we lucked out and the refs called the play dead early. I could also see a special teams TD or 2 for Florida. They CAN get to 23-24 points without doing a whole lot offensively....it's happened many times before in this series.
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I agree in the past that has happened. It won't this year. We have the advantage on special teams and have been over conservative in big games like this one.
 
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