Coleman put ego before Vols

#51
#51
Two coaching staffs have determined that bj wasn't wasn't their guy. Thats enough to convince me.
 
#52
#52
I hate the guy left. I hate the fact anyone leaves the program. It's not like Crompton is all of a sudden Johnny U.I'll be glad when coach gets his own qb's in here, then there will be no excuses for anyone.
 
#53
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21VOL said:
I disagree.

He was never given a chance or wasn't ever going to get a chance. Just like your job. I f you know you would never be given the chance to excel or be promoted, you more than likely would look for another job.
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We do not know that for sure, do we? I am sure that yesterday was not the first time they talked about his abilities.

Somewhere BJ is did not cease the moment. Very unforunate situation.
 
#54
#54
I have always bought into the idea and reports that BJC is a humble, nice dude and great leader. This audio clip on the TFP website suggests otherwise. He really does sound like he's a little inflated. Again, don't know him, but listening to this is almost painful...listening to him talk about how "accomplished" he is because of his play against the 2nd team D in the O&W Game.
 
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Lexvol said:
My real regret is this....if Crompton doesn't play better than he did last year, this is going to be a huge poop storm in the end.
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I agree.......but if Crompton does turn out to be a flop (again), what would this say about Kiffin's ability to evaluate QB's? (Perhaps we're talking about the lesser of evils here.)
 
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banman360 said:
I really think that people are getting the wrong impression about BJ as person. I got to know him his senior year at McCallie and he was always the most well mannered person there. I saw him both at parties and on the playing field and both times it was never about him. I really think this has gotten blown out of the water by the media. I have noticed that he always talks to the Times Free Press about anything UT Football as an update to the people that saw him as a leader. The fact that Creer or any other players that left did not do the same may give off a sense of egotism. Of course, being a potential starting QB for one of the best programs in the country may have had some effect on his mindset during that time.
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I'm just using the impression BJ gave me. Quitter. I don't care how damn nice he is at parties or how many doors he holds for the elderly. There is NO WAY he can feed me this bull about he didn't have a chance. DID HE WATCH ANY OF THE GAMES LAST YEAR???? Anyone on this team who has the heart, dedication and athleticism to play WILL HAVE A SHOT. I'm glad Kiffin saw it in him/her. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, and good luck, I know the Mocs are well known for putting QB's in the league.
 
#57
#57
It's all speculation at this point.

Odds are that by end of September, beginning of October, he'll be a footnote to UT football history. If you are taking about him then, its bad news.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's all speculation at this point.

Odds are that by end of September, beginning of October, he'll be a footnote to UT football history. If you are taking about him then, its bad news.
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unless we are in the hunt for the NC there will be a BJ "what might have been" thread every week with his UTC stats
 
#60
#60
"This blows my mind."
"I could not have had a better Spring" ...gimme a break.

"I owe it to the state and the people to give this a fair shake"

:worship: "I'm the guy that has something to offer this place."
 
#65
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vol1981 said:
I agree.......but if Crompton does turn out to be a flop (again), what would this say about Kiffin's ability to evaluate QB's? (Perhaps we're talking about the lesser of evils here.)
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It doesn't say anything about his evaluations. Fulmer left him with Coleman, Crompton and Stephens. Kiffin is left with determining who the tallest midget is from that group...

Really not fair to criticize his ability to evaluate QB's until he actually gets a FULL recruiting season and brings in his first group of QB's...
 
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VKAman said:
By telling someone who probably would not play that they probably would not play? No...
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A player comes to you seeking advice. You put him off until the next day. He shows up the next day. You try to put him off until monday. He says..'this can't wait that long'.. You get pissed at the kid.

Not the actions of a coach who wants his player to stay if you ask me.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
Everyone has an opinion on Coleman in this matter.

Nobody thinks Kiffin handled this poorly?...
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If the reporting in that TFP article is true about the continued rescheduling of his one-on-one with BJ, then yes, I think that's bad on Kiffin's part to not make 30 minutes to meet with one of your QBs. However, it seems that there's something missing in that story between the part where Kiffin reschedules the meeting and BJ asks for his release. It just doesnt add up - "You rescheduled our meeting? I quit."

I can say, though, that after listening to that audio, I wish him all the best, but I hope his head doesn't explode on I-75 on the way back to Chatt...goodness he loves himself.
 
#68
#68
A quitter with a below-par arm. Good riddance. He would play if he were better. He should have went quietly and there would be no backlash against him. He talks as if he has actually done anything besides play against second team DBs who are really mostly third and fourth team DBs while still not really looking better than JC.
 
#69
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It doesn't say anything about his evaluations. Fulmer left him with Coleman, Crompton and Stephens. Kiffin is left with determining who the tallest midget is from that group...

Really not fair to criticize his ability to evaluate QB's until he actually gets a FULL recruiting season and brings in his first group of QB's...
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AGREE.

Do people here really think that Lane Kiffin doesn't want to put the best people on the field to win his first year in the spotlight? Maybe they wanted B.J. to stay, maybe not. Thing is...we don't know what happened behind closed doors. We do know that coach Kiffin doesn't appear to bend over backwards to keep guys on the team. If your not with us you're against us. It's the beginnng of building cohesiveness and team chemistry, and that my friends will win more games than the number of high school 5 stars you stick on the football field. More goes into being a football player and buildig a team.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
A player comes to you seeking advice. You put him off until the next day. He shows up the next day. You try to put him off until monday. He says..'this can't wait that long'.. You get pissed at the kid.

Not the actions of a coach who wants his player to stay if you ask me.
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Lowcountry said what I would have. Either way, here's why I have an opinion on Coleman:

1. It became apparent that he was not going to play much this year. Next year, Crompton will be gone and we will likely have a freshman. Coleman, who "loves Tennessee" and will not stop talking about how much he "can do for us," elected to quit the team instead--ostensibly because he was either too impatient to wait a year or afraid of competition from a freshman.

2. When he did decide to leave, he decided to inform a reporter from Chattanooga rather than his own coaches or teammates that he says love him so much.

3. During that interview, he tried to pretend like he was not actually quitting, like he had done enough to establish himself as the clear starter in any rational person's eyes, and like our coaching staff has no idea what they are doing (compared to Fulmer...:eek:lol:) because they are not from the South. Then he starts talking about how he needs to feel "wanted."

Three bad and selfish decisions in a row for someone who is such a great and selfless leader.
 
#71
#71
I don't live in Tennessee and don't have any bias about local athletes.....it looks to me that this guy has a HUGE ego and obviously, wouldn't have been good for team chemistry. Sorry, but I think he tanked on my alma mater and I could care less where he goes now.
 
#72
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justingroves said:
I do not blame Coleman for leaving. I do not like the way he went about it.

He does have a little bit of an inflated ego.
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You nailed it. I couldn't agree more.

Don't blame him for leaving, but he didn't handle it well. His immaturity is showing through.

And I don't mind an ego if you have the talent to back it up.
 
#73
#73
It's funny the difference a week makes. 70 percent of you were lauding BJ over the course of spring practice. Then when he splits, you all turn on him, saying he had a big head, and that he was no good to begin with. It's funny how you guys just drink the kool-aid, without questioning the decision. This was most likely mutual, and Kiffin probably did do it to open up a scholly. What's wrong with that? Everybody knew that unless Kiffin found a guy that separated himself from the other guys, he was probably gonna go get one of "his guys".
 
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SpringBokVol said:
You nailed it. I couldn't agree more.

Don't blame him for leaving, but he didn't handle it well. His immaturity is showing through.

And I don't mind an ego if you have the talent to back it up.
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"But it doesn't help to talk like Peyton Manning if you play like C.J. Leak."

I love that.
 
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