Coaching Youth Football

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kevol80

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I just found this website called athletesrevolution.com while I was looking for some info on a former Vol. As it turns out, this is a group that specializes in training youth football players. Guess who's on the staff!

Jayson Swain, Troy Flemming, Fred White, Todd Kelly, and Daniel Brooks!

Recognize any of those names? :)
 
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I think this is part of the new trend we're seeing. Not just high school coaches and occasional camps like the good ole days. As sports get more competitive and parents hope they have the next Tiger/Venus/Wilks, I think a lot of people are going to be cashing in with specialized training. I know there are already several places that prep guys for the NFL combines, but it's looking like it's going to start trickling down more into high school athletics for parents who can afford it.
 
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Speaking of this, does anyone know what ever happened to Bryce Brown's mentor/hanger-on? Is he still in the picture?????
 
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It starts way before high school. My 13yo has been taking hitting lessons with a former major leaguer from the time he was 6 and pitching lessons from another since he was 8.
 
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volmanbill said:
It starts way before high school. My 13yo has been taking hitting lessons with a former major leaguer from the time he was 6 and pitching lessons from another since he was 8.
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Wow. Has it paid off well so far? How does he compare with his teammates who didn't receive that type of coaching?
 
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kevol80 said:
Wow. Has it paid off well so far? How does he compare with his teammates who didn't receive that type of coaching?
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It has definitely been a benefit. He is an elite travel player who was the starting (and winning) pitcher for his East Cobb (Ga) team in the championship game of their World Series in Panama City. All of the kids on that team had taken private lessons at some point or another.

When we started it wasn't because I thought he was the next major league all-star but because I wanted him to learn the fundamentals properly. Add to that the fact that kids don't always want to listen to Dad (or Mom) like they will someone who's been to "the show" and it can be very helpful. It's his passion and I wanted to do everything possible to help grow that. My 8yo has been taking hitting lessons since he was 5 and will begin pitching lessons soon. They both know that it's their decision and that they aren't being forced into anything. They enjoy the lessons. It has also helped me become a better coach with my level of knowledge and has given me the opportunity to learn different drills and methods of teaching.
 
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volmanbill said:
It starts way before high school. My 13yo has been taking hitting lessons with a former major leaguer from the time he was 6 and pitching lessons from another since he was 8.
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i could have saved you alot of money on teaching him to pitch and hit. i do it for free and enjoy it. it's not rocket science. mechanics, mechanics, mechanics, and repetition. my teams have won 7 championships in 3 counties in 6 years. i learned a long time ago that it doesn't take a professional to teach children.
 
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I thought this was gonna be a thread about a possible job opportunity for Fulmer... :unsure:
 
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I'm already seeing burnout in my middle school kids, fried from years of competition, camps, and combines before they even hit 13. Be careful; in all things, moderation.
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thagodfather said:
i could have saved you alot of money on teaching him to pitch and hit. i do it for free and enjoy it. it's not rocket science. mechanics, mechanics, mechanics, and repetition. my teams have won 7 championships in 3 counties in 6 years. i learned a long time ago that it doesn't take a professional to teach children.
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I coach as well. I also know that kids don't always like to hear Dad (or Mom) tell them how to do something. And I've also seen plenty of volunteer coaches that had a passion and thought they knew what they were doing that didn't have a clue.
I learned a long time ago that every yahoo that thinks he can coach, can't. If kids start by learning improper fundamentals they are screwed from the beginning and won't enjoy the game as much.

Bottom line is that my kids are passionate about baseball and want to do the lessons, camps, etc. They both know the only rule is that if they start something, they finish it. I'm not about to shell out cash to hear them whine about not wanting to do something and then have to fight them to get them there.

Does every child want or need to take lessons on an ongoing basis? Of course not. But don't disparage those who feel it's the best route for their situation.
 
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volmanbill said:
It has definitely been a benefit. He is an elite travel player who was the starting (and winning) pitcher for his East Cobb (Ga) team in the championship game of their World Series in Panama City. All of the kids on that team had taken private lessons at some point or another.
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That's awesome man. Congrats. Sounds like both you and he are doing a heck of a job.
 
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AshG said:
I'm already seeing burnout in my middle school kids, fried from years of competition, camps, and combines before they even hit 13. Be careful; in all things, moderation.
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i am a highschool coach, and if you really want it, i mean want to make it, you have to work your ass off from that age, if this stuff had ben around when i was a kid i might have gotten to ware the orange and white.
 
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orange_fan_inVa said:
i am a highschool coach, and if you really want it, i mean want to make it, you have to work your ass off from that age, if this stuff had ben around when i was a kid i might have gotten to ware the orange and white.
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At the same time, we have to be honest with the kids about their chances. 10% of my middle school team will make it to the high school level; 3% of those might be lucky enough to get a college schollie or walk-on spot. What percent of college players make it to the pros? 0.01%? But still fair-to-decent kids are sold on being the next Peyton Manning or Eric Berry and end up with nothing to show for it other than bad knees, lost time, and a lot less money in their parents' bank accounts.

I'd rather flush dollars down the toilet and hope tens float back up; it would be a better return on my money than playing kiddie-camp roullette.
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i just talked to jayson swain, he said he and the other aforementiond are now working with D1 that is funded by peyton manning.
 
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was on the phone with him for about 45 min, he is an awsome guy, and we talked everything from coaching up kids to whats going on down at UT now, hes really big on kiffen and company, but added he still has alot of love for fulmer.

but anyways hes no longer with athleatesrevolution and now with D1 sports which is funded by peyton manning and phillip rivers, they are going to be opening up several facilities all threw the south.

some of my athleates will be attending this comming off season most deffenately. but if you get a chance just google D1 it shoulod be one of the first things that come up
 
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