Coaching staff is our weakness

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We have all talked about how horrible the offensive system is, how bad the play calling is, OLine coach sucks, player development is abysmal, Etc. With all if that said, our players are still top 5 in the country in talent.

The game with Florida and the remainder of our games will hinge on the players feeling loose. I am 100% convinced that CBJ is wound up so tight, that the players play tight as well. Just my opinion.
 
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We have all talked about how horrible the offensive system is, how bad the play calling is, OLine coach sucks, player development is abysmal, Etc. With all if that said, our players are still top 5 in the country in talent.

The game with Florida and the remainder of our games will hinge on the players feeling loose. I am 100% convinced that CBJ is wound up so tight, that the players play tight as well. Just my opinion.

You are correct....it all hinges on coaching at this point. Butch has become his own worst enemy. Fortunately beating Florida cures a whole lot of ills. Let's hope he's smarter than many of us give him credit for. I only want his success, because that's means the success of the team. Otherwise, we head down that long, dark, unhappy path again.

It's better if he just wins.
 
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Biggest fear: Vols fire Butch, hire Tom Herman

We do not want that.

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We have all talked about how horrible the offensive system is, how bad the play calling is, OLine coach sucks, player development is abysmal, Etc. With all if that said, our players are still top 5 in the country in talent.

The game with Florida and the remainder of our games will hinge on the players feeling loose. I am 100% convinced that CBJ is wound up so tight, that the players play tight as well. Just my opinion.

Top 10 talent
Top 40 coaching ( just a few)
 
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You are correct....it all hinges on coaching at this point. Butch has become his own worst enemy. Fortunately beating Florida cures a whole lot of ills. Let's hope he's smarter than many of us give him credit for. I only want his success, because that's means the success of the team. Otherwise, we head down that long, dark, unhappy path again.

It's better if he just wins.


This ^^^^
 
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Biggest weakness is actually the play calling. The 2nd weakness is the fact Dobbs is just not a good deep thrower. Play the Vols up tight and he struggles to get the ball to the WRs. Only hope is we get some blown coverage and the WRs can run under the balls.
 
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Biggest fear: Vols fire Butch, hire Tom Herman

We do not want that.

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Wow that's a distasteful screen name!

No worries, our AD has very frequently been unable to find their butts with both hands in regards to coaching hires. That one is way to obvious for them to pull off.
 
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we have all talked about how horrible the offensive system is, how bad the play calling is, oline coach sucks, player development is abysmal, etc. With all if that said, our players are still top 5 in the country in talent.

The game with florida and the remainder of our games will hinge on the players feeling loose. I am 100% convinced that cbj is wound up so tight, that the players play tight as well. Just my opinion.

ditto!!
 
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You are correct....it all hinges on coaching at this point. Butch has become his own worst enemy. Fortunately beating Florida cures a whole lot of ills. Let's hope he's smarter than many of us give him credit for. I only want his success, because that's means the success of the team. Otherwise, we head down that long, dark, unhappy path again.

It's better if he just wins.

This conversation is premature because of your last statement, until he loses it realyl doens't matter, or does it?

We may be needing to have this conversation next week but I hope not. Jst keep Winning and it doens't matter.
 
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biggest weakness is actually the play calling. The 2nd weakness is the fact dobbs is just not a good deep thrower. Play the vols up tight and he struggles to get the ball to the wrs. Only hope is we get some blown coverage and the wrs can run under the balls.

agree!!
 
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I usually watch most of CBJ's pressers and he seems less tight this year. Even Freak commented I think a week ago that he thought CBJ was less stressed this year.

247 2016 Team talent composite has us ranked as the #12 most talented roster in the country and Phil Steele has us ranked as the #3 most experienced roster this year

I heard yesterday from a Florida sports writer that our guys may have been looking ahead to the Florida game since June - which he offered might explain our lack of focus in the 3 preceding games. He said he wouldn't be surprised to see us clicking on all cylinders on Saturday.

Humans are extremely susceptible to the confirmation bias, looking for data points that reinforce their already strongly held opinions, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. I'm no different than anyone else but since I believe we've barely shown up in the first three games, I've found data points and other opinions which confirm my expectation that WGWTFA!!!
 
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This conversation is premature because of your last statement, until he loses it realyl doens't matter, or does it?

We may be needing to have this conversation next week but I hope not. Jst keep Winning and it doens't matter.

Because your post history denotes a lack of comprehension, I'll clarify. We are talking about the Florida game, which despite ample opportunity, he has never won.

You and I really shouldn't interact.
 
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Biggest weakness is actually the play calling. The 2nd weakness is the fact Dobbs is just not a good deep thrower. Play the Vols up tight and he struggles to get the ball to the WRs. Only hope is we get some blown coverage and the WRs can run under the balls.

chicken or egg? :unsure:
 
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butch isn't getting fired this year, old AD has yet to leave, new AD has yet to be named and it will be middle of summer (if you believe what you read anyway) before the new guy is in. and you don't fire a coach in July.

and as unlikely as i think it is, if we wins 2 of the next 4, he'll be fine. so in the interest of it's still possible because we haven't played the game yet, there's still some merit to the "let's see how the season plays out" mantra.
 
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We have all talked about how horrible the offensive system is, how bad the play calling is, OLine coach sucks, player development is abysmal, Etc. With all if that said, our players are still top 5 in the country in talent.

The game with Florida and the remainder of our games will hinge on the players feeling loose. I am 100% convinced that CBJ is wound up so tight, that the players play tight as well. Just my opinion.

Agree 100%.
 
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Biggest fear: Vols fire Butch, hire Tom Herman

We do not want that.

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I wouldn't worry about that to much we had our pick before and went for the hope and dream selection. Not to say that Butch hasn't worked his own miracles but hes not done anything great. Yet.
 
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butch isn't getting fired this year, old AD has yet to leave, new AD has yet to be named and it will be middle of summer (if you believe what you read anyway) before the new guy is in. and you don't fire a coach in July.

and as unlikely as i think it is, if we wins 2 of the next 4, he'll be fine. so in the interest of it's still possible because we haven't played the game yet, there's still some merit to the "let's see how the season plays out" mantra.

Id be willing to bet the future AD has already been working behind the scenes.
 
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butch isn't getting fired this year, old AD has yet to leave, new AD has yet to be named and it will be middle of summer (if you believe what you read anyway) before the new guy is in. and you don't fire a coach in July.

and as unlikely as i think it is, if we wins 2 of the next 4, he'll be fine. so in the interest of it's still possible because we haven't played the game yet, there's still some merit to the "let's see how the season plays out" mantra.

I think we are all eyes wide open about the likelihood of Butch being replaced this year....not going to happen outside of a scandal or a collapse of Biblical proportions.

FYI, there is a lot of whispering about the new AD being on staff by the first of the year. This won't go until July. Hart will be on the beach long before then.
 
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Because your post history denotes a lack of comprehension, I'll clarify. We are talking about the Florida game, which despite ample opportunity, he has never won.

You and I really shouldn't interact.

How many times did Fulmer beat Floraduh with Meyer or Bama with Saban? :blink:

How many times did Manning beat Floraduh?

Lighten up Francis!
 
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Id be willing to bet the future AD has already been working behind the scenes.

maybe. there's plenty of rumors out there. like i said "if you believe what you read", it'll be next summer. i think it'd be wise to have the new guy on board in December.

if this season goes south, i don't want to be stuck in the mud with out the ability to even consider making a decision.
 
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We have all talked about how horrible the offensive system is, how bad the play calling is, OLine coach sucks, player development is abysmal, Etc. With all if that said, our players are still top 5 in the country in talent.

The game with Florida and the remainder of our games will hinge on the players feeling loose. I am 100% convinced that CBJ is wound up so tight, that the players play tight as well. Just my opinion.

I'd go top ten on the talent, maybe even top 15. We haven't always been in the top five under Butch in recruiting (this year we were 9th), and his first class inherited from Dooley (true seniors now) was actually pretty bad.

Given our national ranking, I'd say we are a tad below where our talent would predict.
 
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I think we are all eyes wide open about the likelihood of Butch being replaced this year....not going to happen outside of a scandal or a collapse of Biblical proportions.

FYI, there is a lot of whispering about the new AD being on staff by the first of the year. This won't go until July. Hart will be on the beach long before then.

i agree, that makes the most sense, just as of now, there's nothing really to substantiate that.
 
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You're absolutely right. The next 4 weeks will determine what this staff is really made of... and for me, will tell me all I need to know. The time is now, put up or shut up.
 
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