Coaching Rumors/ Openings Thread

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beachvol23 said:
With the current track record of coaching management by Danny White, I hope he’s gone before Barnes retires. HE ran off TV, botched baseball hire until intervention, Caldwell is bad and Heupel was 5th? Choice and was at same school before….
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DW is great at driving revenue. Heupel was the right guy at the right time for the football program, but whether he's the long-term solution remains to be seen. This season is huge.
 
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VolCalls said:
Schertz would be great. He was actually targeted by Louisville after Dusty May told them no and went to Michigan, but he had already signed a term sheet with SLU with a hefty buyout, so both he and UL were stuck. I think he'd take the UT job in a heartbeat.
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He would in a heartbeat. I got to know him a little when he was at Indiana State and he said he loved ISU but his end game was a SEC or B1G job. I'm hearing his name rumored for possibly Syracuse right now.
 
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Not sure what to think about Schertz...year 2 at Saint Louis with great results...would kind of like to see him in year 4 or 5 somewhere when he's had a bit of a reset of roster and see if he can keep the ship steady.

3 years at ISU and each year they improved
2 years at SLU and each year they've improved

Sometimes that climb to the top is easier than staying there and he's not stayed anywhere long enough to see if that's something he can maintain yet.
 
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I read where the AD at Miami (OH) gave Steele a contract extension through 2033-34 which should keep him where hes at. I read they're wanting to compete as a good mid major. After a great year so far and a good one last year,thats smart.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
KO was a good coach that could have had a great deal of success at UT with a supportive AD.

Mears was a small college coach that won a natty. Devoe was a Bobby Knight disciple (when Knight was the most successful coach in the country). Houston was the best recruiter in the country. Buzz was Michael Jordan’s roommate. Jerry Green was about the 6th option when KO decided to grind his axe with Dickey and burned UT in the process. Donnie had the NCAA run as well. Cuonzo checked the boxes and had mid-major success.

It’s a crap shoot. The next coach will be youngish, well spoken, stylish, liked by players, and hopefully a tireless recruiter that knows the Xs and Os better than the other SEC coaches
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From what I remember Kevin O'Neil had a toxic personality and did not last long wherever he coached.
 
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VolFan_stuck_in_the_901 said:
CKC's failings have shaken my confidence in ADDW's ability to find a replacement for RB once he hangs it up.... we give him a lot of credit for "hiring Nate Oats" at Buffalo before he got big, but what if that was an anomaly?
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I am just going to present the facts in light of some probably thinking I just support our AD no matter what. Danny White hired Bobby Hurley, Lance Leipold, and Nate Oats at Buffalo. He hired Scott Frost, Johnny Dawkins, Greg Lovelady, and Josh Heupel at UCF. Now, no AD will hit 100% on hires, and you have to analyze the hire at that instutition and not necessarily what that coach ended up doing at other schools.

His hires at Buffalo were all successful. Hurley hasn't been really successful at ASU but is still there for now. The other two have gone on to bigger schools and succeeded.

Scott Frost went undefeated at UCF while not working at Nebraska. Johnny Dawkins hasn't had great success, is still their basketball coach, but UCF is surprsingly holding its own this year in the Big 12. Lovelady was a bit of a disappointment and was fired. Heupel went 22-4 in his first two years at UCF, and we know his history at UT.

So, his history of hires has been really good. I am not in the "Caldwell was a bad hire" yet. She overachieved last year with a makeshift roster. She is relying on more youth this year and had to dismiss a veteran. She signed the #2 player in next year's class and has recruited light years better than our previous coach. People can speculate on the Vitello exit, but the bottom line is that Tony doesn't go anywhere if a MLB team (with a friend as an executive) doesn't come calling. DW didn't divert funds away from baseball; he just gave the Lady Vols their just percentage of revenue sharing unlike other schools, who don't care about women's basketball. Time will tell if these hires will be very good or not.
 
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VolCalls said:
DW is great at driving revenue. Heupel was the right guy at the right time for the football program, but whether he's the long-term solution remains to be seen. This season is huge.
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I think next year is the the one which is most important. I expect the defense to be much improved this Fall. The question is will the offense, with young inexperienced QBs, be able generate enough offense to win the major games with the young and growing defense? `
 
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Pennheel said:
I read where the AD at Miami (OH) gave Steele a contract extension through 2033-34 which should keep him where hes at. I read they're wanting to compete as a good mid major. After a great year so far and a good one last year,thats smart.
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They have offered a very nice extension but he said he's waiting until after the season to see what his options are.....ironically the millionaire booster that supports Saint Louis is the same one that is providing the $ for Miami (Oh)
 
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walkenvol said:
KO was a relentless recruiter, you have a differing opinion from me concerning his coaching. He was vulgar and volatile along with being a terrible culture fit in Knoxville. IIRC, he didn’t last long anywhere he went.
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When Kevin was our head coach I took my 10-year-old daughter to an open practice before a tournament game. It was the WORST display of common decency and socially acceptable behavior by an "adult" I can recall in all my years. Hoping he would realize (or better yet have someone inform him) that he was being utterly disgusting with his unbelievable, filthy, borderline insane language and CLEAR rage toward the players in front of a small group (several young ladies) and would at least lower his booming voice. I've NEVER understood why any supposed adult would EVER use language that is mostly unacceptable among decent, civilized people, especially in a public setting. But Kevin was the worst I've witnessed. And I've witnessed some horrible ones. For those wondering....I love and respect my daughter way too much to expose her to some ranting, profane lunatic and we left.
 
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tennrich1 said:
When Kevin was our head coach I took my 10-year-old daughter to an open practice before a tournament game. It was the WORST display of common decency and socially acceptable behavior by an "adult" I can recall in all my years. Hoping he would realize (or better yet have someone inform him) that he was being utterly disgusting with his unbelievable, filthy, borderline insane language and CLEAR rage toward the players in front of a small group (several young ladies) and would at least lower his booming voice. I've NEVER understood why any supposed adult would EVER use language that is mostly unacceptable among decent, civilized people, especially in a public setting. But Kevin was the worst I've witnessed. And I've witnessed some horrible ones. For those wondering....I love and respect my daughter way too much to expose her to some ranting, profane lunatic and we left.
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His wife isn’t much better. When his USCw team came to Thompson-Boling she sat behind the bench. She got into a screaming cuss out fight with the TN fans sitting behind the visitor’s bench. She was raging. If security wasn’t there to hold her back she might have gotten into a fist fight with the TN fans.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
His wife isn’t much better. When his USCw team came to Thompson-Boling she sat behind the bench. She got into a screaming cuss out fight with the TN fans sitting behind the visitor’s bench. She was raging. If security wasn’t there to hold her back she might have gotten into a fist fight with the TN fans.
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Wow! Utterly pathetic. I guess it would take another profane fringe person (because that's NOT the way most decent people act) to live with him.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Not sure what to think about Schertz...year 2 at Saint Louis with great results...would kind of like to see him in year 4 or 5 somewhere when he's had a bit of a reset of roster and see if he can keep the ship steady.

3 years at ISU and each year they improved
2 years at SLU and each year they've improved

Sometimes that climb to the top is easier than staying there and he's not stayed anywhere long enough to see if that's something he can maintain yet.
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He did have built and sustained success at LMU.

I realize the counterpoint to that is that it was at the D2 level, but it was also with D2 talent and D2 facilities and resources, so the playing field was level. 3 Final Fours and additionally went 32-1 in the Covid year that had the postseason canceled. Career .830 winning% in 13 seasons (337-69).
 
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SGMVols said:
There is no universe in which a basketball coach leaves Syracuse for UT unless he’s doing it because he’s about to get fired.
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This could not be more untrue. There's more to analyzing whether to take a job than the name on the front of the jersey. There's the overall fit, amount of resources poured into helping the program be successful, the AD, the President, the geographic footprint, culture, community, etc. If your statement was true, Scott Drew would have left Baylor for Kentucky last year. Mark Few would've left Gonzaga a decade ago when Indiana wanted him. Those are just two examples out of hundreds. The grass isn't always greener and no matter what your moral compass might be, coaches are still human beings and not all of them have egos the size of California and are only interested in chasing money.

Plus, someone who personally knows Josh already shared with us that Josh told him his end goal is to get an SEC or B1G job - straight from the horse's mouth.
 
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cncchris33 said:
He did have built and sustained success at LMU.

I realize the counterpoint to that is that it was at the D2 level, but it was also with D2 talent and D2 facilities and resources, so the playing field was level. 3 Final Fours and additionally went 32-1 in the Covid year that had the postseason canceled. Career .830 winning% in 13 seasons (337-69).
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Bruce Pearl was also a successful D2 coach who worked his way up.
 
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cncchris33 said:
He did have built and sustained success at LMU.

I realize the counterpoint to that is that it was at the D2 level, but it was also with D2 talent and D2 facilities and resources, so the playing field was level. 3 Final Fours and additionally went 32-1 in the Covid year that had the postseason canceled. Career .830 winning% in 13 seasons (337-69).
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Taking Pete’s money at LMU would have been lucrative, but Debusk is Kevin O’Neill level cray-cray.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
They have offered a very nice extension but he said he's waiting until after the season to see what his options are.....ironically the millionaire booster that supports Saint Louis is the same one that is providing the $ for Miami (Oh)
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Oh,okay. I misread it before putting it on here. My mistake.
 
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SGMVols said:
There is no universe in which a basketball coach leaves Syracuse for UT unless he’s doing it because he’s about to get fired.
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I don’t think so anymore, Syracuse has lost a lot of prestige since Boeheim retired. It’s not the 2010s. I absolutely think we could pry a coach from them with the right price.

Barnes has made UT a much more attractive spot than it was before. The idea nobody would want this job is an outdated narrative.
 
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HeuperDrive said:
I don’t think so anymore, Syracuse has lost a lot of prestige since Boeheim retired. It’s not the 2010s. I absolutely think we could pry a coach from them with the right price.

Barnes has made UT a much more attractive spot than it was before. The idea nobody would want this job is an outdated narrative.
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The bold is very true ..
 
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