Coaching or players?

[Iron Pig]

From my standpoint Tennessee has subpar players. Nothing against these players but most aren’t talented enough to play in the SEC, lets be honest. This is the culmination of incompetent, if not lazy, recruiting efforts since day 1 of Kiffen to the present. Maybe it’s not the current coach, maybe he’s having to work with the reasons previous coaches have been fired. This is simply my opinion and i could be completely incorrect.

 

[OrangeByBirth]

It is mostly COACHING. The problem is in knowing which coach is to blame. The line was a complete mess when Pruitt arrived. He seems to be doing a good job of starting to bolster that. The LBs were not SEC caliber and are still not. The WRs and DBs were supposed to be the team strength. They are not. RBs continue to be a good spot on a bare roster.

 

[TJVol95]

Coaching and players! If we had a competent QB we would have won by 28! MR DB coach effed up the prevent at the end.

 

[DaddyChad]

Players I would say at this point but there’s plenty of blame to go around. This was a much better coached game than the previous. Chaney called a decent game; you can’t throw the ball for the QB when he has open downfield WRs. Warrior and Thompson let us down on the long downfield play; that’s not coaching you have to execute on those plays.

The younger players look to be improving week to week.

 

[MeanOrange]

3 deep cover and the guy still finds a seam! Inexcusable!

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

It is mostly COACHING. The problem is in knowing which coach is to blame. The line was a complete mess when Pruitt arrived. He seems to be doing a good job of starting to bolster that. The LBs were not SEC caliber and are still not. The WRs and DBs were supposed to be the team strength. They are not. RBs continue to be a good spot on a bare roster.

Y'all kill me is Pruitt or Chaney the qb. Throwing interception to guy who didn't move his feet. Or through 2 games miss countless touchdown passes....jarrett has single handedly lost both those games himself while others contributed if he just saw the entire filed we would easily be 2 and 0. Coaches are not perfect but seriously this is on them?

 

[TJVol95]

3 deep cover and the guy still finds a seam! Inexcusable!

In Fingers practice reports JP sure spent a lot of time with the DB’s.

 

[TN_Transplant]

At this point, its something else. Its culture.

A culture of chaos, indifference, and incompetence has infiltrated the highest levels of the school system. No matter the AD personnel, coaches, or players, we have to first fix the culture.

Not sure how to fix it, but we either have to change it, or isolate the Athletic Department from it.

 

[EZE]

It is both.

 

[99gator]

Both.

We haven’t even gotten to a situation yet where Tennessee doesn’t have the superior personnel. The last 2 weeks Tennessee has had a talent advantage at almost every position.

I could get really in depth, but if you fixed one of several different things, Tennessee is 2-0.

One of those is definitely coaching

 

[EZE]

Agree. There is something that sucks the life out of everybody in the program...players and coaches. The faces change but the problems stay the same.

There is something rotten to the core.

 

[TAF]

SURPRISE! Butch Jones’ on-field F-UPS/losses cost Tennessee MANY good players from coming here...

Last year and the last 2 weeks under Pruitt...WON’T help that trend...

 

[cgbtn]

CJP seems willing to replace experience with youth at every position except QB. If our backup QBs aren’t better than JG, then we have no QBs on the roster.

 

[chattavol420]

CJP seems willing to replace experience with youth at every position except QB. If our backup QBs aren’t better than JG, then we have no QBs on the roster.

The thing that is so damn frustrating is that we don’t know until we play them. It doesn’t matter the footwork or accuracy in a controlled workout. What makes or breaks a qb ultimately is their ability to go through progressions and find the open man. Having the moxie to know where the pressure is coming from and avoid t. You don’t n ownwhat we have in the others. But we j ow what we ya e in jg. He doesn’t have it. So why in the hell not make a change

 

[EODVOL]

It is mostly COACHING. The problem is in knowing which coach is to blame. The line was a complete mess when Pruitt arrived. He seems to be doing a good job of starting to bolster that. The LBs were not SEC caliber and are still not. The WRs and DBs were supposed to be the team strength. They are not. RBs continue to be a good spot on a bare roster.

Exactly what are you blaming the play calling, the teaching or something different? The play calling last night was good, the execution not so much but that is expected with some of the younger players. I am not quick to blame the coaching for either of those reasons, however, I will blame the coaching for being stubborn. I think position coach and coordinators are doing fine, I think most of the blame lies in Pruitt's stubbornness and no so much his coaching. He has to see what half of VolNation and many analysts see. If something clearly isn't working it needs to be changed, and many can conclude as to what I am implying. For the most part, the best personnel were on the field, with the young guys there will be some growing pains with the execution. There was fight in the last night, the O-line and D did look better than the previous week. It is hard for some positions, WR, to be a strength of a team when they rely on others to get them the ball.

 

[Ty4Vols]

3 positions need immediate improvement or the coaches will remain handcuffed.

1. QB, no need to explain there are 1000's of posts on this.
2. Safety, Warrior is horrible in pass defense and in tackling in the open field. He is a liability.
3. RG, it doesn't matter who we put in that position they just don't cut it. If UT had a solid RG then the O line shuffles wouldn't be necessary.

Once these 3 areas are fixed in my opinion the team can begin to excel.

Just a fan here not a coach but I've seen enough late check downs with passes thrown into double coverage short of the line to gain on 3rd down to last me a lifetime since JG has been the starter. I've also seen Warrior miss on so many tackles, be out of position or just late in providing support to know he isn't that good of a safety. And a good RG would solidify that O line and our linemen can play their individual roles and not have to help or be thinking about an area that needs help.

In my opinion, which is just that my opinion JG and Warrior must be great in practice. They both have been viewed as talented players and neither fought for their position this year. But when the lights come on their lights go off.

I honestly believe that the coaches are handcuffed through the lack of quality players in these areas. I do believe the coaches are to blame for not making changes. Pruitt benches highly talented running backs for fumbles but leaves in a QB that cant hit an open receiver and 90% of the time checks down and still has difficulty throwing a good pass. That is on the coaches.

I'm down to 3 options for the 2019 Vols as a fan.
1. Bench JG
2. Fire Pruitt for not benching JG
3. Do both options 1 & 2

Basically if JG is allowed to see the field wearing the Power T again I believe the Head Coach should be gone. It takes 2 to tango.

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

Both.

We haven’t even gotten to a situation yet where Tennessee doesn’t have the superior personnel. The last 2 weeks Tennessee has had a talent advantage at almost every position.

I could get really in depth, but if you fixed one of several different things, Tennessee is 2-0.

One of those is definitely coaching

Yet most coaches were either in playoffs past several years or winning championships. Pruitt called an all out blitz and that why we got burned to cost the game ....your right. No wait your wrong cover 3 basically prevent and the corner and the safety got burned. I mean as a player they teach you that in middle school and high school ball. Jg throwing interception to guy who didn't even move his feet. Missing wide open receivers through out both game and probably easily left 4 touch down passes just him self alone on the board from bad passes or not seeing wide open receivers. Coaching....while not perfect and I do out alot on them week one from effort stand point but come on players are not getting it done and mostly at qb. We have worse qb in conference. Definitely the east. Let's say we had Jake fromm easily 2 and 0 right now.....easily

 

[MADISONGAVOL]

3 positions need immediate improvement or the coaches will remain handcuffed.

1. QB, no need to explain there are 1000's of posts on this.
2. Safety, Warrior is horrible in pass defense and in tackling in the open field. He is a liability.
3. RG, it doesn't matter who we put in that position they just don't cut it. If UT had a solid RG then the O line shuffles wouldn't be necessary.

Once these 3 areas are fixed in my opinion the team can begin to excel.

Just a fan here not a coach but I've seen enough late check downs with passes thrown into double coverage short of the line to gain on 3rd down to last me a lifetime since JG has been the starter. I've also seen Warrior miss on so many tackles, be out of position or just late in providing support to know he isn't that good of a safety. And a good RG would solidify that O line and our linemen can play their individual roles and not have to help or be thinking about an area that needs help.

In my opinion, which is just that my opinion JG and Warrior must be great in practice. They both have been viewed as talented players and neither fought for their position this year. But when the lights come on their lights go off.

I honestly believe that the coaches are handcuffed through the lack of quality players in these areas. I do believe the coaches are to blame for not making changes. Pruitt benches highly talented running backs for fumbles but leaves in a QB that cant hit an open receiver and 90% of the time checks down and still has difficulty throwing a good pass. That is on the coaches.

I'm down to 3 options for the 2019 Vols as a fan.
1. Bench JG
2. Fire Pruitt for not benching JG
3. Do both options 1 & 2

Basically if JG is allowed to see the field wearing the Power T again I believe the Head Coach should be gone. It takes 2 to tango.

Hard to disagree. Warrior is highly athletic senior who's football iq just isn't there.

 

[jbuchanan]

It's probably both and that's why it's all so screwed up. Look how many players AND coaches go somewhere else and tear it up. Also look how many coaches are supposed to be world class but come here and do awful.

 

[CINCYVOL]

Coaching and players! If we had a competent QB we would have won by 28! MR DB coach effed up the prevent at the end.

I believe that was a blown assignment by Taylor. If you are going to critique, please try to appear you know what you are talking about.

 

[99gator]

Yet most coaches were either in playoffs past several years or winning championships. Pruitt called an all out blitz and that why we got burned to cost the game ....your right. No wait your wrong cover 3 basically prevent and the corner and the safety got burned. I mean as a player they teach you that in middle school and high school ball. Jg throwing interception to guy who didn't even move his feet. Missing wide open receivers through out both game and probably easily left 4 touch down passes just him self alone on the board from bad passes or not seeing wide open receivers. Coaching....while not perfect and I do out alot on them week one from effort stand point but come on players are not getting it done and mostly at qb. We have worse qb in conference. Definitely the east. Let's say we had Jake fromm easily 2 and 0 right now.....easily

I said that if you change "one of several things". One of those several things is coaching.

By season's end it will become more apparent when it is clear just how bad BYU and Georgia State are.

BYU didn't even play well yesterday.

The other thing that has been mentioned elsewhere is indeed culture. When BYU got the ball back with a minute left, I KNEW they were going to score. Then, after the first few plays I concluded that Tennessee was going to finish the game and win, the unthinkable happened and BYU did indeed score. And despite being the better team throughout the game, was there any doubt who was going to win in OT?

Coaching is the main thing needed to change the culture. These "unthinkable" things that keep happening aren't an accident

 

[EconVol92]

JG May have the ability to do the job in practice and/or scrimmages, but he either panics at game time or he has a complete lack of confidence at game time would be my only other guess, but we have got to move on as status quo will not be acceptable

I’m not onboard with firing Pruitt, but if there is not a change next Saturday that will make me wonder if I’m wrong about that.

I have no doubt that many problems at this point were inherited, but he needs to show an ability to realize that something is not working and change it.

 

[TJVol95]

I believe that was a blown assignment by Taylor. If you are going to critique, please try to appear you know what you are talking about.

I know who coached the kid who blew his assignments. I know what I’m talking about.

 

[CINCYVOL]

I know who coached the kid who blew his assignments. I know what I’m talking about.

I don’t think you do, or really understand how coaching works. You can coach assignments all day long, it’s up to the players to execute.

 

[happy-go_vol]

It is mostly COACHING. The problem is in knowing which coach is to blame. The line was a complete mess when Pruitt arrived. He seems to be doing a good job of starting to bolster that. The LBs were not SEC caliber and are still not. The WRs and DBs were supposed to be the team strength. They are not. RBs continue to be a good spot on a bare roster.

I cant blame the coach. JG is bad and we have no other options. Hes had 2 years of recruiting and his recruits are standing out but the lack of talent is still there.