Coaching Hypocracy

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Am I the only one disgusted with the money being thrown at power 5 HCS and the fact that they preach loyalty and team above all until they get 75 million guaranteed ? I am glad we didnt get Jimbo - if he bombs ( there is no certainty he will win big at A &M) they are married to him for the next TEN years. Unless he is better than Saban, which I doubt , being wedded to him for that long is a major gamble. A & M shelled out more than 100 million dollars to make this happen. How much could tuition be lowered if they used that for students. The whole system is rotten to the core. These guys like Scott Frost walk away from guys they recruited before a bowl game bc it"s all about them. Disgraceful. CEOs and coaches are modern-day kings- above mere mortals and minions. They make more eating lunch than a teacher or policeman makes in a year. What does this say about America? Stop the insanity!
 
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It just goes to show how much money there is being made off CFB. don’t think for a second his contract can‘t be bought out as fast as it was written.
 
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JACK8254 said:
Am I the only one disgusted with the money being thrown at power 5 HCS and the fact that they preach loyalty and team above all until they get 75 million guaranteed ? I am glad we didnt get Jimbo - if he bombs ( there is no certainty he will win big at A &M) they are married to him for the next TEN years. Unless he is better than Saban, which I doubt , being wedded to him for that long is a major gamble. A & M shelled out more than 100 million dollars to make this happen. How much could tuition be lowered if they used that for students. The whole system is rotten to the core. These guys like Scott Frost walk away from guys they recruited before a bowl game bc it"s all about them. Disgraceful. CEOs and coaches are modern-day kings- above mere mortals and minions. They make more eating lunch than a teacher or policeman makes in a year. What does this say about America? Stop the insanity!
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Meh, just sounds like a rant about class envy. Also Scott Frost and his staff remaining to coach UCF's bowl game. Nice try
 
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There is definitely a coaching salary bubble that has been forming the past 25 years. Fulmer's first contract in 1993 was 300,000/year (about 500,000 in current inflation-adjusted dollars). Even 10 years ago, with 2 SEC championships, 5 SEC East champions, and a NC, Fulmer was making 2.05 million, half of what the unaccomplished Butch Jones was making last year. The TV money is a bubble that will likely shrink during the next wave of contract negotiations, and lawsuits for CTE and other injuries will surely ensue at some point. This is the Golden Age of coaching when it comes to making money. It won't likely last.
 
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NCAA should place a salary cap on head coaches at 2 million, total staff cap would be around 5 million. Surplus revenue would be redistributed to the student athletes.
 
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JACK8254 said:
Am I the only one disgusted with the money being thrown at power 5 HCS and the fact that they preach loyalty and team above all until they get 75 million guaranteed ? I am glad we didnt get Jimbo - if he bombs ( there is no certainty he will win big at A &M) they are married to him for the next TEN years. Unless he is better than Saban, which I doubt , being wedded to him for that long is a major gamble. A & M shelled out more than 100 million dollars to make this happen. How much could tuition be lowered if they used that for students. The whole system is rotten to the core. These guys like Scott Frost walk away from guys they recruited before a bowl game bc it"s all about them. Disgraceful. CEOs and coaches are modern-day kings- above mere mortals and minions. They make more eating lunch than a teacher or policeman makes in a year. What does this say about America? Stop the insanity!
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when scott frost starts telling you what your job is, and how to spend your money--you can start calling him a king. If someone was willing to pay you 100 mil to do anything, you would stop whatever you were doing, and do whatever they are paying you 100 mil to do.

"What does this say for America?" Drama much?
 
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JACK8254 said:
Am I the only one disgusted with the money being thrown at power 5 HCS and the fact that they preach loyalty and team above all until they get 75 million guaranteed ? I am glad we didnt get Jimbo - if he bombs ( there is no certainty he will win big at A &M) they are married to him for the next TEN years. Unless he is better than Saban, which I doubt , being wedded to him for that long is a major gamble. A & M shelled out more than 100 million dollars to make this happen. How much could tuition be lowered if they used that for students. The whole system is rotten to the core. These guys like Scott Frost walk away from guys they recruited before a bowl game bc it"s all about them. Disgraceful. CEOs and coaches are modern-day kings- above mere mortals and minions. They make more eating lunch than a teacher or policeman makes in a year. What does this say about America? Stop the insanity!
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Talks, always has, nothing will change:)
 
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JACK8254 said:
Am I the only one disgusted with the money being thrown at power 5 HCS and the fact that they preach loyalty and team above all until they get 75 million guaranteed ? I am glad we didnt get Jimbo - if he bombs ( there is no certainty he will win big at A &M) they are married to him for the next TEN years. Unless he is better than Saban, which I doubt , being wedded to him for that long is a major gamble. A & M shelled out more than 100 million dollars to make this happen. How much could tuition be lowered if they used that for students. The whole system is rotten to the core. These guys like Scott Frost walk away from guys they recruited before a bowl game bc it"s all about them. Disgraceful. CEOs and coaches are modern-day kings- above mere mortals and minions. They make more eating lunch than a teacher or policeman makes in a year. What does this say about America? Stop the insanity!
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Welcome to Economics.
 
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We are a wealthy nation, whether compared to the average country in the world (think Belarus or Thailand), or compared to the US of 100 years ago. The average American has vastly more discretionary spending money than ever before.

So we spend it on leisure. Which means $100 tickets for a sporting event, play, or music concert, or $80-120/month for cable packages, are no longer considered outrageous.

So the entertainers make $$ hands over fist, and get wildly rich. The competition among schools for top talent goes through the roof. Actors, musicians and coaches become multi-millionaires as soon as they reach the big-time, while our teachers, nurses, firefighters and troops make only somewhat higher than minimum wage.

It's all a function of our success. If it seems like we have our priorities in the wrong place, and that our economic model, free market capitalism, is showing weaknesses...well, it is.

But I know of no better model. I'm certainly no communist or socialist. It's like Churchill said of democracy: it's the worst form of government, except for all the others.

Free market capitalism is the worst form of economic system, except for all the others.

One day a true genius, a new Adam Smith, will come up with some simple and elegant variation on capitalism that solves these societal mis-matches and imbalances while preserving the power and genius of the free market. Until then, we live with vastly-overpaid college coaches and singers riding wrecking balls in their underwear. :)

Go Vols!
 
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ruger1234 said:
NCAA should place a salary cap on head coaches at 2 million, total staff cap would be around 5 million. Surplus revenue would be redistributed to the student athletes.
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I could live with something like this if the surplus was used to underwrite all student tuition in an equal amount.

Athletes get free tuition, so their amount should be given to them in the form of a stipend.
 
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JACK8254 said:
Am I the only one disgusted with the money being thrown at power 5 HCS and the fact that they preach loyalty and team above all until they get 75 million guaranteed ? I am glad we didnt get Jimbo - if he bombs ( there is no certainty he will win big at A &M) they are married to him for the next TEN years. Unless he is better than Saban, which I doubt , being wedded to him for that long is a major gamble. A & M shelled out more than 100 million dollars to make this happen. How much could tuition be lowered if they used that for students. The whole system is rotten to the core. These guys like Scott Frost walk away from guys they recruited before a bowl game bc it"s all about them. Disgraceful. CEOs and coaches are modern-day kings- above mere mortals and minions. They make more eating lunch than a teacher or policeman makes in a year. What does this say about America? Stop the insanity!
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If you want to throw up in your mouth a little you forgot ... what about nerdy admin guys that get a $5 M buyout for performing their job poorly. What
 
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JohnnyJava said:
There is definitely a coaching salary bubble that has been forming the past 25 years. Fulmer's first contract in 1993 was 300,000/year (about 500,000 in current inflation-adjusted dollars). Even 10 years ago, with 2 SEC championships, 5 SEC East champions, and a NC, Fulmer was making 2.05 million, half of what the unaccomplished Butch Jones was making last year. The TV money is a bubble that will likely shrink during the next wave of contract negotiations, and lawsuits for CTE and other injuries will surely ensue at some point. This is the Golden Age of coaching when it comes to making money. It won't likely last.
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Coaching salaries are the opposite of a bubble. For the level of impact they have on a program's success (which is basically, like, almost all of it), the market has severely undervalued them pretty much throughout all of CFB history. Relative to their financial impact on the university, they probably still are.
 
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One doesn't have to have a HC in the traditional way. Quite frankly it seems more likely to fail. We've experienced and witnessed it first hand. So why continue a seemingly insane process? Step out of the box.
 
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