Coaches need to step up

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This is the time to "get things right". It's time for it to come together. The media is all over them for good reason. Butch needs to show that mid to late season passion. Debord needs to show up early and devise a better game plan. When something is broken, fix it early. This is a game of reading and adjusting. If that bar isn't raised then we are going to fall short for the 12th straight year to Florida. I believe in defining moments and this is without a doubt a defining moment for this coaching staff. You can't blame injuries, they are a result for every football team. Sloppy play is a reflection of inexperience and/or poor leadership. It is time! Get it done and GBO!!!
 
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This is what's SCARY about these coaches...........they are playing w/ 99% of all the players they recruited and they are still talking about "we need to find" whether it be O-Line, MLB..............I mean, they saw all year that C. Thomas can't play right tackle and these dumb knuckleheads put him out there AGAIN !!!
 
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I feel too many players have been reading their press clippings, and listening to their girlfriends and fans telling them how great they are. Not all of them, but enough to screw up focus and discipline.

After three games, it seems there has been a big increase in penalties this year. That kills any momentum you get from a positive play, and it seems one boneheaded move leads to another. Yeah, some have been freshman miscues, but way too many have been by veteran leaders. And when leaders are frustrated, your team is in trouble. And when this kind of thing continues over 3 games, it's time to wonder why the coaches have not corrected the problem.

I am sure some might point out losing both Sutton and Reeves-Maybin created problems yesterday. And I am sure none of us imagined that happening, but it did. But that is football, and every player in uniform needs to be prepared to step up and assume leadership at any moment.

From the great to the small, all football programs face problems every season. Those who will be known as Champions find solutions.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
We have a coaching problem not a players problem that's for dang sure
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Have you heard the coaches in press conferences? The players are practicing error-free football all week, then a different team is showing up on Saturday! Different from the days before, different even from the season before. The coaches are as mystified as anyone.

Nope. This is not on the coaches.

IMHO: I think the younger or newer players have not mentally and emotionally grasped the difference between "owning the expectations" for this team, and "believing their press clippings." Two vastly different mindsets with only a subtle difference in feeling.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Have you heard the coaches in press conferences? The players are practicing error-free football all week, then a different team is showing up on Saturday! Different from the days before, different even from the season before. The coaches are as mystified as anyone.

Nope. This is not on the coaches.

IMHO: I think the younger or newer players have not mentally and emotionally grasped the difference between "owning the expectations" for this team, and "believing their press clippings." Two vastly different mindsets with only a subtle difference in feeling.
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Disagree. So because the coaches say they see something different in "practice" means they are doing their job and it falls on the players? That's ridiculous.

Who is setting the expectations? Who is calling the plays? Whose job is it to make adjustments?
 
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Right now, I'd say this one has to be on the players. As was shown during the last three quarters of the VT game, this team has the talent to be dominating when they execute. Even if the game plan and coaching wasn't perfect, the talent discrepancy between Tennessee and App State and Ohio should have resulted in a dominating win. The fact of the matter is that right now on both lines we are just getting out-manned. Not out talented. Out manned as in a lack of desire.
 
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Perhaps the Vols Oline has recovered and removed all the splinters they had in their a** from their recent trip to the wood shed by Appalachian State?
 
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gr82batnvol said:
This is the time to "get things right". It's time for it to come together. The media is all over them for good reason. Butch needs to show that mid to late season passion. Debord needs to show up early and devise a better game plan. When something is broken, fix it early. This is a game of reading and adjusting. If that bar isn't raised then we are going to fall short for the 12th straight year to Florida. I believe in defining moments and this is without a doubt a defining moment for this coaching staff. You can't blame injuries, they are a result for every football team. Sloppy play is a reflection of inexperience and/or poor leadership. It is time! Get it done and GBO!!!
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True, but also true that we have lost 2 of our best D players- Sutton and the linebacker. Also, R-m is hurt. I dont see us able to win the east without these guys. I hope so- but doubt it. Injuries are not Butchs fault.
 
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JACK8254 said:
True, but also true that we have lost 2 of our best D players- Sutton and the linebacker. Also, R-m is hurt. I dont see us able to win the east without these guys. I hope so- but doubt it. Injuries are not Butchs fault.
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Please don't come into a thread trying to preach and say the linebacker. Do you not know DK Jr.?
Who is r-m. I know jrm.
Get the point
 
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gr82batnvol said:
This is the time to "get things right". It's time for it to come together. The media is all over them for good reason. Butch needs to show that mid to late season passion. Debord needs to show up early and devise a better game plan. When something is broken, fix it early. This is a game of reading and adjusting. If that bar isn't raised then we are going to fall short for the 12th straight year to Florida. I believe in defining moments and this is without a doubt a defining moment for this coaching staff. You can't blame injuries, they are a result for every football team. Sloppy play is a reflection of inexperience and/or poor leadership. It is time! Get it done and GBO!!!
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I hate to say it but I agree. Now's the time to flip the switch. Be ready for anything!
 
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I am not a fan of the coaching I have seen this year including Shoop. Maybe especially Shoop because of his press clippings. Bring heat??? What damn heat, how many sacks do we have? But before I get totally off subject I believe there is a real lack of leadership on this team. If it takes a 3rd string QB to get the team fired up something's wrong. Call it passion, call it toughness, call it lack of respect but leadership is amiss.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Have you heard the coaches in press conferences? The players are practicing error-free football all week, then a different team is showing up on Saturday! Different from the days before, different even from the season before. The coaches are as mystified as anyone.

Nope. This is not on the coaches.

IMHO: I think the younger or newer players have not mentally and emotionally grasped the difference between "owning the expectations" for this team, and "believing their press clippings." Two vastly different mindsets with only a subtle difference in feeling.
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That's on the coaches to find a way for the players to grasp the difference. And if they aren't getting it, they need to play different players or recruit differently.
 
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I think this team mirrors a tight head coach. Too many slogans. Too little confidence in his men with his coach speak. Warrior, Byrd and John Kelly should all be playing more...
 
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Fijivol72 said:
I am not a fan of the coaching I have seen this year including Shoop. Maybe especially Shoop because of his press clippings. Bring heat??? What damn heat, how many sacks do we have? But before I get totally off subject I believe there is a real lack of leadership on this team. If it takes a 3rd string QB to get the team fired up something's wrong. Call it passion, call it toughness, call it lack of respect but leadership is amiss.
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I agree. We needed a Freshman to create some passion! Not good!!
 
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We have 3 NFL potential WRs in Malone, Jennings and Preston.

I've seen fewer than 5 yard slants in 3 games. These are automatic completions. And they open up the deep ball by bringing up the DB.

Put 6-7 guys on the line and throw slants and short outs till uf stops it.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
We have a coaching problem not a players problem that's for dang sure
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We have an game day execution problem and a lot of that, has been the players. Coaches do not coach a player to make penalties and mistakes or execute plays inconsistently. That normally happens to good teams when there is a lack of focus.

It is up to the coaches to put the right 11 players on the field to execute a play and do what ever they can to get the players to focus.
 
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This is what worries me. How can they step up when they are giving 100%. This is who they are. They are maxed out. I'm worried because they played the perfect game last year and wasted it in the last 5 min. It's hard to do that two years in a row. We can't count on this staff to call great games every week. Even every other week. About once a month. Even in the win streak then won 8 and sucked in 3.
 
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It's all about man vs man , put a hat on a hat and find there weakness and exploit it bc thats what they will do, sometimes it's best to simplify things and play checkers until you learn how to play chess !
 
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I know the head man gets all the blame, as it should be but the players have been surprisingly bland and sloppy. They have shown no fire, no life. They play sloppy and wreckless with the football and 99% of them haven't played to their potential. We've seen what these players are capable of and they haven't shown their talent, speed, grit etc that they have in the past.

It's the coaches job to make sure they play at or above their ceiling no matter the play that's called so Butch will rightly shoulder the blame but that's not ever been a prob since this staff has been here. It's not a trait of Butch. Actually on the contrary IMO. His teams have always played fired up and above their heads in most cases and always had a low penalty count.

The play calling on gameday has been a prob but not the passion. How could these players not have been fired up coming into this season? Why would they need a backups backup to fire them up in the biggest game ever? What has went on behind close doors? Do they feel like they have really done something already and lost that "worker" mentality?

It's on Butch to correct this and without some of our best players due to injury and in a BIG HURRY!
 
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