Coach Rumph confirms in speech today!!!

[livefaith]

Rumph is directing his energy at the wrong people. Rocker and the d-line need to get it together!

I've have wondered the possibility since last season. Is it possible that a legendary DE Tracy Rocker, one of the greatest collegiate DEs, is simply not an effective DL coach? Wondering out loud.

 

[Chad F]

The Tennessee fan base is the best in the country. Who else would continue to stick around in any number with the atrocious product we’ve seen in the field for the past 12-15 years? . . . With the last two being the worst teams in the history of our program.

 

[Chad F]

When Army football was so terrible a couple of seasons ago (having endured 14 straight losses to Navy and embarrassingly bad teams nearly every year during that span), the Academy finally brought in Jeff Monken, a proven leader of the mold that fit with the unique culture and constraints of West Point.

When Monken first came in, everyone with any sense expected initial struggles. But I heard someone describe it like this: when you are building a completely new structure (not a re-build), you dig downward first to construct a strong foundation. It wasn’t a re-build because, other than the pride of being part of the Academy’s storied history, there was nothing solid on which to build. He had to start over. Many players left the team and the Academy within those first months. And Army didn’t start seeing consistent success until year 3.

I don’t know if Pruitt is the answer (I hope he is), but I do know that we need to stop saying that UT football is a re-build. It is completely new construction project. Mike Hamilton, Lane Kiffin, Dave Hart, Derek Dooley, Butch Jones, and John Currie destroyed anything left of the winning tradition and culture that many of us long time fans remember.

 

[508mikey]

In what world is refusing to spend your hard earned money on a failing product a 12 year old pouting? People make those decisions about where to spend their money every day. Are they pouting?

You go ahead and try to “empower” a coach and a program that is regressing. Let me know how it works out

you should know by now allvol123 is mr perfect on VN

 

[Vols_Football83]

In what world is refusing to spend your hard earned money on a failing product a 12 year old pouting? People make those decisions about where to spend their money every day. Are they pouting?

You go ahead and try to “empower” a coach and a program that is regressing. Let me know how it works out

Not everyone is a quitter like you obviously are. Some people back their team no matter what. Some of these kids are busting their asses for this school. To have the crappy attitude you have is a direct slap in their faces. You are always such a condescending jerk to everyone. Why are you even here man?

 

[Vols_Football83]

you should know by now allvol123 is mr perfect on VN

Still a better poster than fade imo

 

[allvol123]

I never advocated selling your ticket to a rival. I just said an empty stadium would possibly be the only thing that would get the attention of the admin. Try to keep up

You want the attention of the people that have created a decade long mess? Why? What in the hell do you expect that to produce. Why are you so lost?

 

[Billy Ratliff]

I think it's as simple as most of them had no experience in the positions they now hold. One would think we would have learned this lesson with Sunseri, or Larry Scott. It's unfathomable to me that people equate success as a position coach with success as a coordinator, or success as a coordinator with one as a HC.

Except you're wrong. Ansley's never been a DC, but he coached under JP, was the highest paid NFL DB coach, and JP said he will make the call if he disagrees with Ansley. They aren't the ones responsible for WRs running free or #18 just not being able to cover guys. Has Sherrer been a good position coach? Rumph? Tee has a great rep as WR coach. Chaney - you just tried to argue he isn't a good OC. Come on bro. You can knock Will Friend and I'm not a fan of still switching guys up all the time, but the OL is playing much better through 4 games - and that's not a promotion for him. Weinke is a guy that you might could make a more general point with - but you haven't tried. Johnson has coached RBs. Niedermeyer is a TE coach.

"...most of them had no experience in the positions they now hold" - that's simply false, and only applies to Ansley and Pruitt. I've seen some idiots on here question JP's ability as a DC...I mean, that's when you should realize you're failing to make a logical argument. Any problems with our D are not a result of those 2 guys' coaching ability. Sure, focus on JP being a first time HC. Fine. Easy mark. Valid criticism b/c the buck stops with the HC. But you and all the rest arguing that this is not a very high quality coaching staff simply come off as emotional fans because you lack any objective basis. We aren't a good FB team right now, but I 100% guarantee if JP was fired tomorrow the next staff would pale in comparison to the current one.

 

[Billy Ratliff]

say what johnny majors used to say. we stink, you see it. we see it. nothing to do but go back to work. don't give one **** about his wife's cooking or his planes pilots or what his son looks like. don't tell me how hard you are working. show me by results how hard you are working. and lets be clear. hard work never pays off...hard smart works pays off. flame on. And to quote one of my attorneys on the payroll. At some point during these proceedings i just quit giving a **** about what others think.

Nice humble-brag...but anyway. Would you look as smart if all your "hard, smart work" was put into place by all 18-22 yr olds? Maybe the results are delayed when your best players are true Fr and Sophs, many of whom are learning new positions, and you're fighting less talented upperclassmen who aren't thrilled by the writing on the wall? You act like you want the guy to just shut up and coach.....uh, he's at a speaking event. Answering questions in the midst of the worst start in UT history, it's a no-win situation. There's literally nothing he could say that would make you feel better.

 

[The Original Fade]

You want the attention of the people that have created a decade long mess? Why? What in the hell do you expect that to produce. Why are you so lost?

Do you like money? Me too. I’m willing to wager the UT admin does too. There. tried to make it simple for you.

 

[allvol123]

Do you like money? Me too. I’m willing to wager the UT admin does too. There. tried to make it simple for you.

You resolved nothing. You, again, are saying you want a bunch of people that have proven to be incompetent for a decade plus, to make a another decision.

Your simplification is only exposing how simple you are.

 

[skoalbeans]

Our problem is the lack of stability in our program, along with the unrealistic expectations of our fan base. As for this year, our best players are freshmen, and we have a qb that is struggling. It’s definitely NOT coaching. Our best option is to take it on the chin, completely rebuild with the future in mind, and get behind the staff, players, program for a change. Facts.

 

[T2P_Priceless]

What else could it be? It has to be either the hole was deeper or Pruitt blew it.

And why does it keep happening with successful coordinators and position coaches?

 

[Billy Ratliff]

What else could it be? It has to be either the hole was deeper or Pruitt blew it.

Well not exactly. This isn’t a finished product. The hole could be deeper and JP might be in the process of climbing out or of blowing it.

Edit: Can’t remember who posted it but things are now different for new HCs with the 25 initial counter hard rule. New HC can’t just run off vets with bad attitudes or else he won’t have jack to practice with or depth. No over signing or extra transfers. 25 = 25 in 2019. I think most would agree there are some guys on the team who don’t have much to offer and preferred the butch “work out if/when you want to” approach over a staff with multiple MNC rings who know what elite CFB looks like and demand hard work. But those bad seeds are mostly still here and it’s a balancing act which is not exactly going in JP’s favor right now. Add in a vet QB who’s inexplicably taken 5 steps backward and we look like s very bad FB team. Not to go full on Cubbies mantra but a new QB and another class of JP’s guys could (could) make a huge difference next year.

 

[dmwhite1]

 

[The Original Fade]

You resolved nothing. You, again, are saying you want a bunch of people that have proven to be incompetent for a decade plus, to make a another decision.

Your simplification is only exposing how simple you are.

Pruitt’s here through the end of next year minimum so admin is doing nothing til then. I’m not spending my money in the meantime and neither should anyone else if they want the next hire to be something better than an assistant that no one else is offering. I agree, it is simple. That’s why a host of other schools have figured it out while our admin thinks guys like Pruitt, Dave Doren, Kevin Steele, and Greg Schiano are better fits for a premier SEC program like Tennessee. Don’t mind me though, carry on with #empowerpruitt

 

[zydane47]

Our problem is the lack of stability in our program, along with the unrealistic expectations of our fan base. As for this year, our best players are freshmen, and we have a qb that is struggling. It’s definitely NOT coaching. Our best option is to take it on the chin, completely rebuild with the future in mind, and get behind the staff, players, program for a change. Facts.

Lack of stability? How you figure that? Did we not give Butch 5 years? If that's not stable then IDK what is. This is coaching man, if you can't get the players lined up on defense correctly, which you've had months to learn, and you'd think would be one of the first things they would teach these players, then yes it is very much on coaching.

 

[allvol123]

Pruitt’s here through the end of next year minimum so admin is doing nothing til then. I’m not spending my money in the meantime and neither should anyone else if they want the next hire to be something better than an assistant that no one else is offering. I agree, it is simple. That’s why a host of other schools have figured it out while our admin thinks guys like Pruitt, Dave Doren, Kevin Steele, and Greg Schiano are better fits for a premier SEC program like Tennessee. Don’t mind me though, carry on with #empowerpruitt

You are a genius. Sure your boycott will be the fix.

 

[The Original Fade]

You are a genius. Sure your boycott will be the fix.

Nah, I’m starting to come around to #empowerpruitt. I’m confident our admin will sit back a look at all the allvols123’s out there still financially supporting the 1-8 Vols and think to themselves “these loyal fans deserve better. Let’s go after Urban”. Lololol

 

[photovol]

With all the stellar coaches on staff, one must ask, who’s fault is it that this team can’t even get the little things correct, like lining up and substituting?
Are the players unable to grasp their assignments, are the coaches simply doing a poor job of teaching the players their roles.....or is it both?
I think it’s both and then you add in the fact that many of the players could not start at other SEC schools and you have it....... sup par players, sub par coaching

I just don’t see any happy endings for this hapless Tennessee team

 

[photovol]

I've have wondered the possibility since last season. Is it possible that a legendary DE Tracy Rocker, one of the greatest collegiate DEs, is simply not an effective DL coach? Wondering out loud.

I think it’s more related to the talent level that Rocker has to work with, remember these kids were manhandled by Georgia State, enough said?

 

['Boro-vol]

I think it’s more related to the talent level that Rocker has to work with, remember these kids were manhandled by Georgia State, enough said?

Our talent is ranked 13th in the nation right now. We have, by the recruiting numbers, more talent on campus than Florida.

We don’t have a talent problem. We have a development problem.

 

[allvol123]

Nah, I’m starting to come around to #empowerpruitt. I’m confident our admin will sit back a look at all the allvols123’s out there still financially supporting the 1-8 Vols and think to themselves “these loyal fans deserve better. Let’s go after Urban”. Lololol

There you go again. Your confidence in this admin is astounding. Astoundingly dumb.

 

[photovol]

Our talent is ranked 13th in the nation right now. We have, by the recruiting numbers, more talent on campus than Florida.

We don’t have a talent problem. We have a development problem.

Don’t believe it for a minute, you think the coaches are this bad?

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Did Coach Rumph address why several players don’t know where to stand on the field?