Coach Fulmer being selfish??

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I keep hearing people say that they want Coach Fulmer to step down or resign so that it won't get ugly at the end and I can agree on that but at this point I don't think its gonna happen.

I'm wondering if at this point anyone thinks that coach is being selfish.

To me it seems like he's giving off the impression that no way he'll resign (he's said as much) and is giving off the impression that "They'll have to pry control of this program from my cold dead hands" attitude and at that point it is becoming he's only concerned about himself and no longer whats best for the program.

Seems like thats the point its gotten to me just watching him and how he's reacting and answering what few actual real, unscreened calls might make it through to him on VolCalls.

Anyone else picking up on this??
 
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I truly think, he thinks, he can turn it around. I don't think it's selfishness, just a lack of having any touch of reality.
 
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He caught every break in the world and then some from the SC game on last year. He was prolly toast if he had lost the SC game or the KY game or the Vandy game. He caught all the breaks and got to go to Atlanta. A man who thought that he was part of something much bigger than him would have taken that opportunity to resign and go out on top after the bowl victory. On top of lacking any humility, he looks like a pretty miserable human being on his Sunday coach's show.
 
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To answer your question, yes.

If he really loves this program, he would let someone else take over so we can start winning again. I was at a wedding today, getting play by play via phone, and I could just tell how conservative and soft we were playing. The same sh*t the past 7-8 years. To me, it has already gotten ugly. Fulmer has screwed the program up, recruits are de-commiting

P.S. 1000th post pimpin
 
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BigOrange88 said:
I keep hearing people say that they want Coach Fulmer to step down or resign so that it won't get ugly at the end and I can agree on that but at this point I don't think its gonna happen.

I'm wondering if at this point anyone thinks that coach is being selfish.
To me it seems like he's giving off the impression that no way he'll resign (he's said as much) and is giving off the impression that "They'll have to pry control of this program from my cold dead hands" attitude and at that point it is becoming he's only concerned about himself and no longer whats best for the program.

Seems like thats the point its gotten to me just watching him and how he's reacting and answering what few actual real, unscreened calls might make it through to him on VolCalls.

Anyone else picking up on this??
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yes
 
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Coaches are generally pretty positive people. They can be arrogant and stubborn. My dad was one for 38 years. He quit when he got tired and it wasn't fun anymore. Phil's looking tired, he can't possibly be having any fun.
 
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VolGirl81 said:
Coaches are generally pretty positive people. They can be arrogant and stubborn. My dad was one for 38 years. He quit when he got tired and it wasn't fun anymore. Phil's looking tired, he can't possibly be having any fun.
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I don't know about Phil, but I sure ain't having any fun.
 
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VolGirl81 said:
Coaches are generally pretty positive people. They can be arrogant and stubborn. My dad was one for 38 years. He quit when he got tired and it wasn't fun anymore. Phil's looking tired, he can't possibly be having any fun.
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Yeah, he does look like its wearing on him. It is a reasonable thing to notice that maybe physically it might be getting to be too much for him.
 
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I'm not having any fun either but I'm not making hundreds of thousands of dollars in my misery!
 
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Of course he's being selfish--and very delusional. For one thing, he knows this job is it for him--he's done as a coach after UT--and he apparently wants to keep working. He also wants to keep making $2 million plus a year. He also wants to go out on top, I'm sure, and believes that he can return UT to prominence, even though it's obvious that he can't. He thinks he's bigger than the program--and he's not. That's what these administrators at UT and pa. state and fla. state fail to realize.
 
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BigOrange88 said:
I keep hearing people say that they want Coach Fulmer to step down or resign so that it won't get ugly at the end and I can agree on that but at this point I don't think its gonna happen.

I'm wondering if at this point anyone thinks that coach is being selfish.

To me it seems like he's giving off the impression that no way he'll resign (he's said as much) and is giving off the impression that "They'll have to pry control of this program from my cold dead hands" attitude and at that point it is becoming he's only concerned about himself and no longer whats best for the program.

Seems like thats the point its gotten to me just watching him and how he's reacting and answering what few actual real, unscreened calls might make it through to him on VolCalls.

Anyone else picking up on this??
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It depends on when you are talking about him resigning. If you mean resign right now, mid-season -- then I disagree. You can't hire a new coach midseason (at least not the right one) and who is going to take over: Chavis? He doesn't have the demeanor. Resigning now would be nothing more than giving up on the team and putting them in an awkward situation. This season is worthless anyway.

As for year end -- if he isn't fired, he should resign. He didn't resign last season because he got a chance to overhaul his offensive staff -- which I'm sure he believed could be a real positive. It hasn't worked out -- time to move on.

My honest opinion, based on hearing the man speak, I imagine he will retire after this year. He's beaten down and he may not be able to take it much longer.

I hope UT retains him in some capacity. The game has passed him by, but UT always needs people that devote their lives to the university.
 
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BigOrange88 said:
I keep hearing people say that they want Coach Fulmer to step down or resign so that it won't get ugly at the end and I can agree on that but at this point I don't think its gonna happen.

I'm wondering if at this point anyone thinks that coach is being selfish.

To me it seems like he's giving off the impression that no way he'll resign (he's said as much) and is giving off the impression that "They'll have to pry control of this program from my cold dead hands" attitude and at that point it is becoming he's only concerned about himself and no longer whats best for the program.

Seems like thats the point its gotten to me just watching him and how he's reacting and answering what few actual real, unscreened calls might make it through to him on VolCalls.

Anyone else picking up on this??
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dude, hes not gonna resign in the middle of the season and he shouldnt, thats just not how things are done. were just gonna have to wait it out like everyone else.
 
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UTBoy15 said:
dude, hes not gonna resign in the middle of the season and he shouldnt, thats just not how things are done. were just gonna have to wait it out like everyone else.
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He could and should announce that he is resigning effective at the end of the season. This would give the program extra to do a coach search, tend to recruiting, etc. But he won't.
 
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Just give Fulmer time. He's working his way through the five stages of grief and will be at the acceptance level by the end of the season. If he's not there by then, fire his ass along with Chavis. The game has past them both by.
 
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UTBoy15 said:
dude, hes not gonna resign in the middle of the season and he shouldnt, thats just not how things are done. were just gonna have to wait it out like everyone else.
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Naaah, I know he's not gonna resign in the middle of the year and I don't expect him to. I just mean I don't think he will at all ever Period!

The way he's looking lately it might not be his choice.

It definitely looks like physically it may be taking its toll.

I'm sure they'll retain him somewhere in the administration and they should.

He's done a lot for the program but a change needs to come.
 
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billbattle said:
He could and should announce that he is resigning effective at the end of the season. This would give the program extra to do a coach search, tend to recruiting, etc. But he won't.
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they are gonna be looking regardless
 
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VolGirl81 said:
I truly think, he thinks, he can turn it around. I don't think it's selfishness, just a lack of having any touch of reality.
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Of course he thinks he can turn it around! Overall, he has been a wonderful coach for Tennessee and if he didn't think he could turn it around I'd want him gone immediately! The key at this point is IF he can turn it around. I think at this point, the entire coaching staff and team is at a very important crossroads. . .it will be more than interesting to see how the coaches and more importantly, the players, react to this "ugly" state we are in. :cray:
 
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