Clocks will no longer stop after 1st downs except during final 2 minutes of a half

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sami said:
Agree. Leaving in during the last two minutes of the halves was smart, but this is a change that will be seamless by October.
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This really won’t impact us that much. We’re always at the line ready to go when the chains are set. Don’t give up first downs. Clock stops on change of possession
 
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sjt18 said:
As a fan, I don't want less plays. If anything I'd like more. As a player, that's about 10% less opportunities to get on the field. There's no game or player benefit to this. But I would bet that the commercial timeouts will be extended by as much or more time as is saved by this move. Sort of like when candy bar prices stayed the same and became about 20% smaller.
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You can stop with this. You haven't even thought your own position through. We should have 24 hour football games? More football is best right? Your position that people who don't want 4 plus hour football games don't like foot ball is dumb. You don't like 24 hour long football games. At some point enough is enough.
 
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volfanhill said:
You can stop with this. You haven't even thought your own position through. We should have 24 hour football games? More football is best right? Your position that people who don't want 4 plus hour football games don't like foot ball is dumb. You don't like 24 hour long football games. At some point enough is enough.
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No YOU can stop with "this". No one asked for 24 hour games. But around 70 plays per team per game is NOT too much football. And, yeah, if you want fewer plays then just wear it rather than trying to deny it. You either don't like football or you're manifestly stupid for wanting less.
 
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sjt18 said:
No YOU can stop with "this". No one asked for 24 hour games. But around 70 plays per team per game is NOT too much football. And, yeah, if you want fewer plays then just wear it rather than trying to deny it. You either don't like football or you're manifestly stupid for wanting less.
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Lol. You have anger issues and communication problems. Grow up. And you can dislike this change but it's not nearly the big deal you are making it.
 
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sjt18 said:
No YOU can stop with "this". No one asked for 24 hour games. But around 70 plays per team per game is NOT too much football. And, yeah, if you want fewer plays then just wear it rather than trying to deny it. You either don't like football or you're manifestly stupid for wanting less.
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Let's go 24 hour games and if you want less you hate the game. Or you are manifestly stupid for wanting less than that.
 
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volfanhill said:
Lol. You have anger issues and communication problems. Grow up. And you can dislike this change but it's not nearly the big deal you are making it.
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Well, no. Saying something is stupid because it is in fact stupid does not mean someone has "anger issues". And the people who know me... would laugh at you for suggesting it. I almost never get angry.

As for change, no. I actually push for change when it makes sense. This doesn't make sense unless your goal is one of two things. You want less football each year or you've figured out how to make more money off less football.

What "good" reason do you propose? Game too long? Cut the length of commercial timeouts. Safety? Limit the number of plays for each player in a game.

If your complaint is that games are too long and you are NOT talking about the actual number of plays then this is a STUPID way to address the problem.

Oh, and if it isn't a "big deal" then why do it? They're shortening the games by reducing the actual amount of time playing the game by about 10%.
 
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sjt18 said:
No YOU can stop with "this". No one asked for 24 hour games. But around 70 plays per team per game is NOT too much football. And, yeah, if you want fewer plays then just wear it rather than trying to deny it. You either don't like football or you're manifestly stupid for wanting less.
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The NFL uses these rules -except for the under 2 minute modification- and they run about 65 plays per game . . . which means we’ll run about 70. This isn’t going to be a huge deal.
 
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sjt18 said:
IMHO, it will mean that virtually every team UT plays goes into "clock run" mode. Knowing the game has now been artificially shortened by 7 minutes, it will be much easier to just run the clock out and keep the game close while wearing out UT's D. Teams like UK are already trying to do this. This rule only makes that strategy more effective.

I am old enough to remember when a few coaches including Jimmy V with inferior rosters went into a "keep away" O in basketball from the start of the game. They had good ball handlers and just held the ball for 3 or 4 minutes at a time to prevent better teams from scoring. Eventually that led to the shot clock. But not before some REALLY bad games were played.

I honestly cannot understand why ANY football fan would favor this game or believe that we are getting too much actual football in the course of a football game. My only guess is they care more about the event than the sport... the drinking, tailgating, watch parties, et al. Not me. I love the game. I end every season wishing there was more. Every time I watch a replay I wish the game had been longer.
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I couldn't agree with this more. The analogy to the 4-corner offense in basketball is a very good one. This is not quite as drastic, but the same general concept, as there will now be significantly fewer possessions.
 
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GAVol said:
The NFL uses these rules -except for the under 2 minute modification- and they run about 65 plays per game . . . which means we’ll run about 70. This isn’t going to be a huge deal.
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About 10% fewer plays per game is a big deal to me. It will change strategy. And my bigger point is that there is absolutely NO good reason to do it. None. The only suggestion that halfway makes sense is the claim that it will reduce injuries. But that can easily be solved by giving each player except the QB a "play count" much like baseball has a pitch count while maybe making the game better for fans instead of worse. Also the NFL plays more games.

In spite of one poster's protests, the main argument here seems to be that the games are "too long". Football fans that love it so much that they want less of it? If they're talking about the overall length including stoppages then why not subtract from something other than the actual game? Maybe like commercial timeouts or putting limits on reviews or something of that nature?

What "improvement" do you argue this rule makes?
 
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#113
Someone should keep track to see if they add more commercials, and keep track of the total game length. I realize that every time a new contract is signed, the network has to cover the cost of the contract some way. One way would be charge more per spot, or add more spots, but my guess is that it will do both.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
Someone should keep track to see if they add more commercials, and keep track of the total game length. I realize that every time a new contract is signed, the network has to cover the cost of the contract some way. One way would be charge more per spot, or add more spots, but my guess is that it will do both.
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I don’t see how this will have anything to do with commercial spots.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Why would any fan want fewer downs? Which is exactly what will happen
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It occurs to me a fan of a team with a dominant defense wants fewer plays during the game.

I am not convinced this is good, bad, or negative.
Wanting more commercials during broadcast games is a normal business move for tv channels.
I cannot see how it favor our scheme, or how it specifically hurts our gameplan either.

I will have a much more informed opinion after a week or two of college football games.
If the officials are slow to set the football after first downs, then it is harmful to us. We saw that during a couple of games last season. I imagine Our offense taxes officials just like it gasses defenses.
 
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sjt18 said:
What "improvement" do you argue this rule makes?
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It’s about cutting the game times back, but it’s also about “exposures”. If they cut 6-7 plays out of every game, that’s effectively a full game worth of exposures to potential injury… which makes it easier to justify adding extra playoff games.
 
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It will be interesting to see if the refs spot the ball quicker than when a first down stopped the clock now that it impacts the clock. Making it ready for play will now be an issue it was not before. This could backfire on those trying to sneak in subs as refs slow played the spot by walking it in with no timing implications. Will be watching to see if Coach expedites those spots with the crews with the windmill action and chewing on the linesman’s ear after every first down when they don’t.
 
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krichunaka said:
Commercials will be fitted in, regardless of the clock stoppages, or not.
The only significant result will be in the two-minute offensive profile …which I think is a good thing. Stopping the clock to reset the chains is - with today’s technology - unnecessary. Stopping the clock to aid a team that has, until the waning seconds, lost …unless the clock-keeper gets involved, is unfair to the leading team, be that our team, or the opponent. so, the last-minute assistance for the trailing team is now gone. And (I think) that’s good.
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How is stopping the clock following a first down, providing aid to the team in the lead? You don’t understand college ball. This is/was among several long-standing rules which differentiate college football from the NFL (another being one foot v. two feet, 2 min. warning, etc…).
Clock stoppage following a first down has been integral to many comebacks in the college game , even outside the final 2 minutes of play.
I wish they had left this alone.
 
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#125
Buck Faseball. All their fault for instituting the pitch clock. Hell, I'm gonna install one next to my girlfriends bed now.
 
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