CLK Shouldn't Allow It

Would you bench Eric Berry if he attempted to return for his senior season?

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#27
#27
TBrown n ths BTCH said:
So Lane Kiffin has no sense?
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Well, I can't imagine Kiffin ever said "I don't you, don't come back." Maybe he said something like "if it were me Eric, I would definitely leave but you need to make the decision since it's your life."

I'd be willing to bet Kiffin has told him he would love to have him back for his senior year.
 
#29
#29
Tenacious D said:
If I were CLK and Eric Berry approached me about reversing his decision to turn pro, and instead wanted to return for his senior season, I simply wouldn't let him.

I'd tell him that the risks are too great, and the rewards too low to do so. While I couldn't stop him from returning, I would tell him in no uncerain terms that he would never see the field - nor the practice field, other than to ride the stationary bike.

I would want no part in his possibly suffering a career ending injury, and jeopardizing both the financial security which he and his family should now enjoy.
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Everyone likes to talk about all kinds of silly insignificant things supposedly affecting the huge decision of which school to attend. If the coach pulled a stunt like this - this would be something that actually did make guys not want to play for you...
 
#30
#30
VolWonder said:
That is the worst idea I have ever heard of since I have been apart of Volnation. You make it his decision and you give your input, but he is a grown man. He did not become the player he is by sitting the bench and playing careful.

YOU DONT SIT THE GREATEST LEADER AND BEST DEFENDER ON YOUR TEAM END OF STORY!!!!

Did we sit Peyton no, he placed his legacy in stone when he returned his senior year.
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Grown men make stupid decisions which are not in their best interests all of the time (See: Smith, Tyler) - I think it's up to more men who have further grown to decide what those of lesser growth should do.

Just my opinion, and I really don't see where there's room to disagree with me.
 
#31
#31
eric berry will make more money if he goes pro this year than he would if he came back because of the rookie salry cap next year but i would love to see him back.
 
#32
#32
vollygirl said:
If CLK were to do that, I'd have him undergo a full mental evaluation. And then I'd fire him.
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Let me get this straight....

You think that its in EB's best interests to come back for his senior season?

Is that your stance on this?
 
#33
#33
born-n-raisedvol said:
So if he came back, you would keep him from playing a down of football for an entire year, thus guaranteeing that he loses draft stock? Smart, real smart.

If he so wishes to come back and convinces CLK that he is going to, then there is absolutely no reason not to take advantage of him.
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I didn't realize that someone would be so blatant in stating their belief that we should take advantage of EB's naive decision to return......so, thanks.
 
#34
#34
born-n-raisedvol said:
So if he came back, you would keep him from playing a down of football for an entire year, thus guaranteeing that he loses draft stock? Smart, real smart.

If he so wishes to come back and convinces CLK that he is going to, then there is absolutely no reason not to take advantage of him.
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So, if EB sat out for one full season, you think that his draft stock would plummet? That's not smart.

FYP - "IF he convinces CLK".....so you agree that he would need to convince CLK before he would let him come back? Well, what if CLK wasn't convinced?

I thought that EB was a, "grown man" and could make his own decisions.....so why would he have to convince CLK of anything? Because he's taller (i.e. more growned)?
 
#36
#36
volmanbill said:
Interesting thought. My initial reaction was that no one should stand in the way of a player wanting to return for a degree and another year of "being a student" (not to mention a sure shot at the int return record)....but I understand your point. Let's face it, even if something unimaginable were to happen in his first practice and his NFL career was over, EB could still return for his degree and have a nice chunk of change in his pocket too. There are many different perspectives to view this from and I'm not sure they'd all agree on the advice.

On the matter of the coach telling him he wouldn't play....I don't think either EB or CLK would believe that would happen....
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I appreciate your comments, but I am not asking what either EB or CLK would actually do - I want to know what YOU would do in that situation.

I'll hang up and listen to your comments.
 
#40
#40
DC Vol said:
Berry sucks. He only got 2 INTs this year and a total of 7 return yards.

Yank his scholarship... frickin' scrub.
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That's an intentional - and poor - distortion of my position.

Re-read it. Think it through. What would you do?
 
#41
#41
Tenacious D said:
So, if EB sat out for one full season, you think that his draft stock would plummet? That's not smart.

FYP - "IF he convinces CLK".....so you agree that he would need to convince CLK before he would let him come back? Well, what if CLK wasn't convinced?

I thought that EB was a, "grown man" and could make his own decisions.....so why would he have to convince CLK of anything? Because he's taller (i.e. more growned)?
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Is this CUM or CNS in disguise???:post-4-1090547912:
 
#42
#42
Tenacious D said:
If I were CLK and Eric Berry approached me about reversing his decision to turn pro, and instead wanted to return for his senior season, I simply wouldn't let him.

I'd tell him that the risks are too great, and the rewards too low to do so. While I couldn't stop him from returning, I would tell him in no uncerain terms that he would never see the field - nor the practice field, other than to ride the stationary bike.

I would want no part in his possibly suffering a career ending injury, and jeopardizing both the financial security which he and his family should now enjoy.
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Ridiculous post!
Put him on the bike and never see the field? Wouldnt that in fact hurt his stock and decrease his earnings potential and financial security you speak of?
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#43
#43
Dudleys87 said:
you smell that? the stench of sarcasm fills the air....
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I suspected it as well, but I try to take VollyGirl's comments at face value until I'm certain that her tongue is firmly planted in her cheek - but good pick up on the hint that she's doing it.

You saw it before me.
 
#44
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Tenacious D said:
Let me get this straight....

You think that its in EB's best interests to come back for his senior season?

Is that your stance on this?
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nobody said it's in his best interests. but if a player wanted to come back and play for his university an extra year a coach certainly shouldn't trade off his playing time by sitting him on the bench just for the sake of saving his draft stock. that's just ridiculous. it would be a waste of the player's time and a douche move on the coach's part.
 
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#46
#46
Tenacious D said:
I'd tell him that the risks are too great, and the rewards too low to do so. While I couldn't stop him from returning, I would tell him in no uncerain terms that he would never see the field - nor the practice field, other than to ride the stationary bike.
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I have been thinking about this and from the begining think he should go and make the money. An injury would be devestating. However, he is a very good student. I think wants to be a Dentist, right. Staying in school and getting a degree and being ready to enter a medical program maybe important to him.

Not to mention he could get a pretty big insurance policy to protect against a big injury too.

Im just sayin...
 
#48
#48
IBleedOrange said:
Well, I can't imagine Kiffin ever said "I don't you, don't come back." Maybe he said something like "if it were me Eric, I would definitely leave but you need to make the decision since it's your life."

I'd be willing to bet Kiffin has told him he would love to have him back for his senior year.
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I bet you're wrong. From the outset, CLK has made no equivocations as to what he felt EB should do.

So, looking at it objectively, whcih of the two do you think is best qualified to make such a decision:

EB, and his romanticizing of what another ultimately meaningless year might bring

OR

CLK, an older and wiser person with far more knowledge and insight into the world and workings of both college and pro football - and who has seen innumerous careers cut short from freak injuries?

Who would be best to decide that question?

If your son were to be contemplating a similiar decision, and they could only ask one person for advice - and you were certain that they would follow it, once received - would you send them to EB, or CLK?

That's right, you would. So should everyone else.

CLK is in a far better position to make this decision than EB, and he should force him to make the right one, if he were trying to make the wrong one.

Saying that he shouldn't do this is like saying that Tyler Smith shouldn't have heeded CBP's advice about running around with drugs and guns.....because Tyler's a growned man, and he decides what's best for Tyler, not CBP! Let's say Tyler still said, "No, coach, I'm still going to do it." - would CBP have been out of line in continuing to try and prevent him from doing so, even if it meant taking his keys, standing in front of the car, etc.? Well, wouldn't that be CBP overriding Tyler's decision at that point? Shouldn't CBP just say, "Well, it's clearly a stupid decision, but I have to respect your right to do it." If not, then why should CLK?

Well, doing 2-3 years in a minimum security prison is all Tyler Smith is facing - EB is risking tens of millions of dollars, and both his and his families financial freedom.

So why should EB be allowed to stupidly decide his own fate - with so much more at stake than Smith - but we'll agree that Smith should have heeded CBP's fictitious advice not to run around with guns and drugs?
 
#49
#49
You left the correct answer off the poll. He's Eric "freakin' Berry", I'd let him do whatever he wants.
 
#50
#50
Tenacious D said:
That's an intentional - and poor - distortion of my position.

Re-read it. Think it through. What would you do?
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That is what I would do.

Berry is a slacker.

In his time here we haven't beaten Florida or Alabama. Worst player at UT since Peyton Manning.
 
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