Climate Change Report

[NorthDallas40]

It's still the best we have. Nothing changes that fact.

 

[hog88]

It's still the best we have. Nothing changes that fact.

The best data we have may be leading us down the wrong path. A broken compass may be the best data you have out in the woods.

 

[McDad]

Which isn't much considering the age of our planet.

Good point. If the habital age of our plannet is 500M years and current observation is 200 years, that is a microscope sample size. Even ice cores going back 50,000 years are a blink in the geologic time.

 

[luthervol]

The best data we have may be leading us down the wrong path. A broken compass may be the best data you have out in the woods.

It's still the wisest course of action to base your decisions on the best data available.

 

[hog88]

It's still the wisest course of action to base your decisions on the best data available.

Not always, especially once it's been politicized and manipulated.

 

[McDad]

How should I know? I'm not a climatologist. I just know that the vast majority of the world's best climatologist seem to be in agreement. Deferring to their expertise seems the wisest option. What's the alternative? Ignore them and hope that they're wrong?

Chill, man. No need to bunch up your panties.

Do you always defer to those who know more than you or is your deferral situational?

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's still the wisest course of action to base your decisions on the best data available.

I’m pretty certain if you were a 2nd Lt in Vietnam you would have wound up being fragged by your own platoon.

 

[Mick]

The best data we have may be leading us down the wrong path. A broken compass may be the best data you have out in the woods.

Moss on the north side of trees in the northern hemisphere and on the south side in the southern hemisphere. Now you know if your compass is broken or not.

 

[hog88]

Moss on the north side of trees in the northern hemisphere and on the south side in the southern hemisphere. Now you know if your compass is broken or not.

Good boy.

 

[luthervol]

Good point. If the habital age of our plannet is 500M years and current observation is 200 years, that is a microscope sample size. Even ice cores going back 50,000 years are a blink in the geologic time.

Which is why we will continue to study and learn. If future study shows it was all a false alarm, we will adjust our course according to the newest data. If future study shows it is even worse than we thought, then we will either say "we should have done more" or "I'm glad we acted when we did".

 

[McDad]

It's still the wisest course of action to base your decisions on the best data available.

Would you base your health habits on a .00001% sample size?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Moss on the north side of trees in the northern hemisphere and on the south side in the southern hemisphere. Now you know if your compass is broken or not.

IE find validation for your premise. I agree.

 

[McDad]

Moss on the north side of trees in the northern hemisphere and on the south side in the southern hemisphere. Now you know if your compass is broken or not.

Id rather look at an old wife's tail than hear one.

 

[McDad]

Which is why we will continue to study and learn. If future study shows it was all a false alarm, we will adjust our course according to the newest data. If future study shows it is even worse than we thought, then we will either say "we should have done more" or "I'm glad we acted when we did".

Good. Observe until you die. Just dont make policy.

 

[luthervol]

Would you base your health habits on a .00001% sample size?

I would base my health habits on the best data available.

 

[luthervol]

Good. Observe until you die. Just dont make policy.

A lack of policy is policy.

 

[hog88]

Which is why we will continue to study and learn. If future study shows it was all a false alarm, we will adjust our course according to the newest data. If future study shows it is even worse than we thought, then we will either say "we should have done more" or "I'm glad we acted when we did".

We should never stop studying and trying to learn, we should never oppress people and wreck economies guessing on the answer.

 

[Grand Vol]

Moss on the north side of trees in the northern hemisphere and on the south side in the southern hemisphere. Now you know if your compass is broken or not.

Not entirely accurate.

Tends to "mostly" grow on the north/south side. But isn't always the case.

 

[luthervol]

Chill, man. No need to bunch up your panties.

Do you always defer to those who know more than you or is your deferral situational?

lol......I'm about as chilled as it gets.
My deferrals are situational, but the situation almost always dictates deferral.

 

[hog88]

Not entirely accurate.

Tends to "mostly" grow on the north/south side. But isn't always the case.

Shhh! Mick might be trying orienteering this weekend.

 

[luthervol]

We should never stop studying and trying to learn, we should never oppress people and wreck economies guessing on the answer.

No one has ever recommended doing any such thing.

 

[hog88]

No one has ever recommended doing any such thing.

You ever heard of the Paris treaty?

 

[Grand Vol]

Shhh! Mick might be trying orienteering this weekend.

Actually, it's a good lesson.

The more you hear something, the more "true" it becomes.

Or...

Not everything you hear is true. Sometimes data exists that dispels a commonly held belief.

 

[luthervol]

You ever heard of the Paris treaty?

Ever heard of the Great Smog of London?

 

[hog88]

Ever heard of the Great Smog of London?

Yes. And what does that have to do with this discussion?